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Obama says people who hate him don't know him

And many extremists on the right are doing their best to do everything they can to make sure it gets here faster and blows harder and more forceful that it otherwise would. The dearly are willing to have the vast majority lose and lose big so that their extremist ideology has a tiny chance of succeeding.

The storm can't be prevented now. Why? America is no longer the country it was. And Americans are no longer the people they were. That can't be reversed. You are trying to fight gravity.
 
Is hate wrong?

How do we define it?

Extreme dislike?

The liberals I have talked with define sin as "sin" when harming others. Unacted upon, as in harmless, not wrong by those lines?

Even if someone said they hated someone yet did no action... is it wrong?

Who tells you you can't hate?

Also, subjectivity.

Furthermore, if all hate is bad, then it's wrong to hate people like thieves, liars, murderers, etc?

Depth, please.
 
You are too goo hearted Star. I long ago gave up feeling sorry for the willfully blind because they have adopted extremist ideology. Believe me, they would extend no pity on you of any kind. You will simply be collateral damage in their desire to remake society for the few, by the few and in the image of the few.

Political nihilists aren't interested in remaking society. You don't understand the phenomenon.
 
The storm can't be prevented now. Why? America is no longer the country it was. And Americans are no longer the people they were. That can't be reversed. You are trying to fight gravity.

BS. It never was what you seem to think it was. That said, nothing stays the same. To do so is to die.
 
The storm can't be prevented now. Why? America is no longer the country it was. And Americans are no longer the people they were. That can't be reversed. You are trying to fight gravity.

Of course it's not, things change, doesn't mean it's bad.
 
I feel sorry for you.

Do you remember this? Do you feel sorry for Howard Dean who was Chairman of the Democratic Party at the time he uttered these words:


"I hate Republicans and everything they stand for."
Howard Dean

Howard Dean Quotes - BrainyQuote


Live By The Sword, Die By The Sword. Payback is a bitch.
 
Do you remember this? Do you feel sorry for Howard Dean who was Chairman of the Democratic Party at the time he uttered these words:


"I hate Republicans and everything they stand for."
Howard Dean

Howard Dean Quotes - BrainyQuote


Live By The Sword, Die By The Sword. Payback is a bitch.

Yeah, I feel sorry for anyone who hates someone just because they disagree.

And I didn't say that, so I don't understand why you would say payback is a bitch to me.
 
Of course it's not, things change, doesn't mean it's bad.

How are America's public school kids doing in comparison to the children of other industrialized nations, even third world nations?

How are Americans going to pay the increasing National Debt, unfunded Social Security liabilities, and unfunded Medicare liabilities?

Have you seen the crumbling infrastructure of California?

Have you been to Detroit? The Motor City No More.

At least forty percent of engineering students at UC Berkeley are citizens of the People's Republic of China. Did you know that?

America is importing not the smartest most accomplished people in the world. It is importing the most impoverished and least skilled.

Do you deny that virtually all liberal arts grads are doomed to a lower standard of living than their parents?

Do you deny that the American soldiers in Afghanistan are on a fool's errand?

Do you deny that Obama lacks legal authority to murder innocent Pakistani civilians with flying robots?

I could go on. The entire world, except for America, recognizes the truth. Read the foreign press.
 
Yeah, I feel sorry for anyone who hates someone just because they disagree.

And I didn't say that, so I don't understand why you would say payback is a bitch to me.

You are not my enemy. Except on lgbt matters, you are completely wrong about the country.
 
BS. It never was what you seem to think it was. That said, nothing stays the same. To do so is to die.

Societies and civilizations rise and fall. America is no exception.

Once the Mayans had a great civilization. When it fell their descendants even lost the ability to read Mayan script.
 
You shouldn't really try to excuse such a poor source.

this, from the lucklessly linkless peddlar of personal opinions who prefers WIK to the canadian broadcasting corp...

for purposes of comparison and oversight

LOL!
 
How are America's public school kids doing in comparison to the children of other industrialized nations, even third world nations?

How are Americans going to pay the increasing National Debt, unfunded Social Security liabilities, and unfunded Medicare liabilities?

Have you seen the crumbling infrastructure of California?

Have you been to Detroit? The Motor City No More.

At least forty percent of engineering students at UC Berkeley are citizens of the People's Republic of China. Did you know that?

America is importing not the smartest most accomplished people in the world. It is importing the most impoverished and least skilled.

Do you deny that virtually all liberal arts grads are doomed to a lower standard of living than their parents?

Do you deny that the American soldiers in Afghanistan are on a fool's errand?

Do you deny that Obama lacks legal authority to murder innocent Pakistani civilians with flying robots?

I could go on. The entire world, except for America, recognizes the truth. Read the foreign press.

1) Our public school system began going south well before Obama took office.

2) A problem before Obama took office. Of course Obama is doing nothing to help.

3) California's problem. Obama had nothing to do with it. For someone who pushes states rights, you conveniently forget about states responsibilities.

4) Detroit? That has been in the crapper since the 1980's, when the auto companies began pulling out, and relocating offshore. How is that Obama's fault?

5) Chinese engineering students? But I thought you said that our schools weren't worth a crap. Why is China sending their students here?

6) America is exporting all it's good jobs, and on top of it, we are making the foreign students the most skilled, so that when they return to their own countries, they can effectively run the businesses that we handed over to their countries.

7) I don't deny that, but can you also deny that many engineering, science, and technical students are also doomed to a lower standard of living then their parents?

8) Soldiers don't run fools errands. They make sacrifices so that the rest of us can sleep safely in our beds, and disrespect their missions on political forums.

9) Bush lacked legal authority too, but I heard no outcry then. Why now? Oh yea, it's a Democrat now.

10) You could go on, and you probably will, but I will disagree with you, and in the strongest words I can find. The truth is that America is still the best nation in the world to live in. But keep reading foreign press, if you want to. I will stick to homegrown news, even FOX News and World Net Daily, before I accept the propaganda you seem so keen to read and tell us about.
 
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I long ago gave up feeling sorry for the willfully blind because they have adopted extremist ideology. You will simply be collateral damage in their desire to remake society for the few, by the few and in the image of the few.

you mean the extremists who last november effected the greatest house turnover in three quarters of a century, the most state reps and legislatures in history, 10 governors and 6 senators?

that's an awful lot of few
 
Our public school system began going south well before Obama took office.

and arne duncan, who couldn't even get the kids of chicago to and from school alive, sure aint the kind of ed secty to fix what ails us

A problem before Obama took office. Of course Obama is doing nothing to help.

that would make him remiss

California's problem. Obama had nothing to do with it. For someone who pushes states rights, you conveniently forget about states responsibilities.

infrastructure---stimulus---shovel ready...

of course obtuse obama confessed to the ny times mag in october that he's only just learned THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SHOVEL READY JOB

Obama: "No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Projects" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Detroit? That has been in the crapper since the 1980's, when the auto companies began pulling out, and relocating offshore. How is that Obama's fault?

President Obama Touts Revival of Auto Industry - CBS News

Chinese engineering students? But I though you said that our schools weren't worth a crap. Why is China sending their students here?

you're comparing my alma mater, cal, to some local ps?

I don't deny that, but can you also deny that many engineering, science, and technical students are also doomed to a lower standard of living then their parents?

they're still in far higher demand than the poets and ethnic studies majors

Soldiers don't run fools errands. They make sacrifices so that the rest of us can sleep safely in our beds, and disrespect their missions on political forums.

what's the exit strategy, again, in afghanistan?

what's the withdrawal timeline as of this week?

we all know when he SURGED

You could go on, and you probably will, but I will disagree with you, and in the strongest words I can find.

before he even posts?

more power to you

But keep reading foreign press, if you want to. I will stick to homegrown news, even FOX News and World Net Daily, before I accept the propaganda you seem keen to read.

you're disparaging the times of london, der speigel, afp?

go for it
 
The storm can't be prevented now. Why? America is no longer the country it was. And Americans are no longer the people they were. That can't be reversed. You are trying to fight gravity.

America has always heard from loud defeatists who counted us out before the real fight ever started. Sorry, but I believe in American and its people.
 
1) Our public school system began going south well before Obama took office.

2) A problem before Obama took office. Of course Obama is doing nothing to help.

3) California's problem. Obama had nothing to do with it. For someone who pushes states rights, you conveniently forget about states responsibilities.

4) Detroit? That has been in the crapper since the 1980's, when the auto companies began pulling out, and relocating offshore. How is that Obama's fault?

5) Chinese engineering students? But I thought you said that our schools weren't worth a crap. Why is China sending their students here?

6) America is exporting all it's good jobs, and on top of it, we are making the foreign students the most skilled, so that when they return to their own countries, they can effectively run the businesses that we handed over to their countries.

7) I don't deny that, but can you also deny that many engineering, science, and technical students are also doomed to a lower standard of living then their parents?

8) Soldiers don't run fools errands. They make sacrifices so that the rest of us can sleep safely in our beds, and disrespect their missions on political forums.

9) Bush lacked legal authority too, but I heard no outcry then. Why now? Oh yea, it's a Democrat now.

10) You could go on, and you probably will, but I will disagree with you, and in the strongest words I can find. The truth is that America is still the best nation in the world to live in. But keep reading foreign press, if you want to. I will stick to homegrown news, even FOX News and World Net Daily, before I accept the propaganda you seem so keen to read and tell us about.

You are just whistling past the graveyard. I know these facts hurt. Take the pain.

On education I was talking about K-12. The State of California is cutting funding for the UC system because the state is broke.

Aren't you a Dungeon Master? Shakes head. Go.
 
Political nihilists aren't interested in remaking society. You don't understand the phenomenon.

Sadly, I understand it far too well and recognize those who can only destroy instead of build. They are the cancer in our society and they must be removed or neutralized so that the body can survive in health. Its us or them. Easy choice.

How are America's public school kids doing in comparison to the children of other industrialized nations, even third world nations?

Many are doing quite spectacularly thank you. And if we ever got our ridiculous standardized tests to dovetail with a national curriculum like these other nations you are envious of, you would be surprised to see the results narrow considerably. This has all been explained to you in detail before.

How are Americans going to pay the increasing National Debt, unfunded Social Security liabilities, and unfunded Medicare liabilities?

Raise taxes on those who ahve the most to pay and pop the cap while freezing benefit levels. This has all been explained in detail to you before.

Have you seen the crumbling infrastructure of California?
Repeal Prop 13 and you will be on the road to a better state.

Have you been to Detroit? The Motor City No More.
I was just there hours ago. And so was the Motor City.


At least forty percent of engineering students at UC Berkeley are citizens of the People's Republic of China. Did you know that?
Lets treat them well and hope they remain here to make a contribution to America.

America is importing not the smartest most accomplished people in the world. It is importing the most impoverished and least skilled.
Like those previously mentioned Chinese engineering students? You contradict yourself from one line to the next.

Do you deny that virtually all liberal arts grads are doomed to a lower standard of living than their parents?
Time will tell. But right now, you certainly do not know this.

Do you deny that the American soldiers in Afghanistan are on a fool's errand?

American soldiers have been on foolish errands around the world for the last six decades. That was a time when you claim things were better. Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.
 
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Sadly, I understand it far too well and recognize those who can only destroy instead of build. They are the cancer in our society and they must be removed or neutralized so that the body can survive in health. Its us or them. Easy choice.

Are you hoping for change? Hahaha.
 
You are just whistling past the graveyard. I know these facts hurt. Take the pain.

On education I was talking about K-12. The State of California is cutting funding for the UC system because the state is broke.

Aren't you a Dungeon Master? Shakes head. Go.

Not up here. That would be an infraction. Come downstairs, and let's have a "debate". :mrgreen:
 
No...he didn't. He will be remembered well one day.

Never has a president been attacked with such unwarranted vitriole as Bush.

LOL....good one. GWB will be remembered for the great failure that he is.
 
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