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Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

Really??

The poll I quoted was unambiguous. It states plainly that 58% of Americans want the law repealed. 62% of people that now have insurance want it repealed, while only 47% of those without insurance oppose repeal.

I'll admit that you didn't cherry pick from the poll I posted, but you completely ignored it and brought in completely different one as if that proved anything.

And you have the nerve to even type the word dishonest ?????

Again, you skip the rebuttal, ignore the reasoning, and don't dig deeper. You prove my point, repeatedly. Many of those who want repeal want it because the reform doesn't go far enough. This is important. Ignoring that is being biased.
 
ignoring things is BIAS

LOL!

3/4 of a tril in new taxes

Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Additional Information on CBO’s Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2

half trillion in cuts to medicare, all the while obama simultaneously expands its already teetering enrollment by millions

Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

er costs increase

ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe

doctors refuse new medicare patients

Finding a Doctor Who Accepts Medicare Isn’t Easy - NYTimes.com

the doc fix passes, another quarter tril unaccounted for

Senate passes 1-year doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

another quarter T double counted

Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

our already broken backed states are burdened with 200 billion in the form of brand new medicaid enrollees

Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe
 
Again, you skip the rebuttal, ignore the reasoning, and don't dig deeper. You prove my point, repeatedly. Many of those who want repeal want it because the reform doesn't go far enough. This is important. Ignoring that is being biased.

Once again, YOU prove my point. Show me where in the poll I quoted that people want more government health care than is in this law.
 
Once again, YOU prove my point. Show me where in the poll I quoted that people want more government health care than is in this law.

You have to realize that Boo doesn't really care about anything other than his opinion and ideology. Costs don't matter, quality doesn't matter, just access is all that matters to him. All the rich can fund those millions added, right?
 
Once again, YOU prove my point. Show me where in the poll I quoted that people want more government health care than is in this law.

You didn't. That's the point. What you quote, maybe even your poll, limits the answer and does not go further. Which is why seeking one that asks appropriate follow up questions is a better poll. The fact is that many of those who want repeal want more and not less in the reform. Ignoring that, as you are, is bias.
 
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Ignoring that, as you are, is bias.

LOL!

and ignoring all the disinformation and fear mongering put out by the likes of the ny times, boston globe, wapo, cnn, the hill, the HHS WEBSITE, the CBO HOMEPAGE, etc, would be what?
 
LOL!

and ignoring all the disinformation and fear mongering put out by the likes of the ny times, boston globe, wapo, cnn, the hill, the HHS WEBSITE, the CBO HOMEPAGE, etc, would be what?

Sounds more your bias to me. news is not meant to affrim your belief system. That would be bias. :coffeepap
 
You have to realize that Boo doesn't really care about anything other than his opinion and ideology. Costs don't matter, quality doesn't matter, just access is all that matters to him. All the rich can fund those millions added, right?

Yeah, I know. I don't know why I even respond to his posts. He just ignores whatever anyone posts and goes off on his own tangent.

I just don't understand how libs like him can justify to themselves that it's ok to leave their children and grandchildren with trillions of dollars of debt. Seems like they are like teenagers and are only concerned with what THEY want right now and to hell with the future.
 
You didn't. That's the point. What you quote, maybe even your poll, limits the answer and does not go further. Which is why seeking one that asks appropriate follow up questions is a better poll. The fact is that many of those who want repeal want more and not less in the reform. Ignoring that, as you are, is bias.

Great... show me that in the poll I posted.
 
He just ignores whatever anyone posts and goes off on his own tangent.

what's most revealing is that only all-about-boo is even attempting to defend the indefensible in this thread

in other words, NO ONE, not a single self respecting progressive will even attempt to apologize for this pig of a bill

the only thing all-about-boo can provide, at this point, is LOL's

stay up
 
Where do think the rest went? Think it has anything to do with prices going up? With premius going up?

No it has to do with hospitals over charging because they know the insurance will not pay that. If you had no insurance they would still lower it but probably not as much
 
True, a single payer system would do a more effective job, which is why so many think he did not go far enough. But the things you complain of were happening before any reform. Going backward won't fix the problem. Instead we need to move foreward toward real reform.

Single payer will not do what you say. When the government runs it, it will be inefficient and full of fraud. Look at medicare and medicaid.
 
See the polls above. You may be reading things through the prism of your own bias. :coffeepap

That is your take on the polls

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 58% of Likely U.S. Voters at least somewhat favor repeal of the health care law while 36% are opposed.

These figures include 46% who Strongly Favor repeal and 27% who Strongly Oppose it. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

This is the 54th weekly survey tracking support for repeal of the health care law. Support for repeal has ranged from a low of 50% to a high of 63%. In 53 out of the 54 weeks, support for repeal has topped opposition by double digits. Consistently, Democrats have strongly opposed repeal while Republicans overwhelmingly favor it. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 55% favor repeal and 36% are opposed.
 
Single payer will not do what you say. When the government runs it, it will be inefficient and full of fraud. Look at medicare and medicaid.

There is also a lot of waste and theft in the private health insurance system. Hospitals pad their bills for services never rendered, and there is no way the insurance companies can investigate or stop this level of fraud. One remedy the insurance companies do have, though, is to raise rates. Lots more cost to all of us due to theft.
 
There is also a lot of waste and theft in the private health insurance system. Hospitals pad their bills for services never rendered, and there is no way the insurance companies can investigate or stop this level of fraud. One remedy the insurance companies do have, though, is to raise rates. Lots more cost to all of us due to theft.

That is true and government health care will not stop it they will just raise taxes
 
That is your take on the polls

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 58% of Likely U.S. Voters at least somewhat favor repeal of the health care law while 36% are opposed.

These figures include 46% who Strongly Favor repeal and 27% who Strongly Oppose it. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

This is the 54th weekly survey tracking support for repeal of the health care law. Support for repeal has ranged from a low of 50% to a high of 63%. In 53 out of the 54 weeks, support for repeal has topped opposition by double digits. Consistently, Democrats have strongly opposed repeal while Republicans overwhelmingly favor it. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 55% favor repeal and 36% are opposed.

Again, you're not paying attention. repeating things not in dispute is pointless on your part. Try addressing the actual argument. Many of those wanting repeal want it BECAUSE the bill doesn't go far enough. They want more, not less.
 
No it has to do with hospitals over charging because they know the insurance will not pay that. If you had no insurance they would still lower it but probably not as much

If you don't have insurance, odds are you didn't pay at all. This means the cost is shifted to those with insurance and those who pay. Meanign we all pay for those who can't pay right now, before any reform, and in an ad hock, way with no real oversight.
 
Again, you're not paying attention. repeating things not in dispute is pointless on your part. Try addressing the actual argument. Many of those wanting repeal want it BECAUSE the bill doesn't go far enough. They want more, not less.

For the 5th time, show where in the Rasmussen poll results (you know, the one we are talking about....) that you are correct.

You can't.
 
If you don't have insurance, odds are you didn't pay at all. This means the cost is shifted to those with insurance and those who pay. Meanign we all pay for those who can't pay right now, before any reform, and in an ad hock, way with no real oversight.

You mean like we'll do under ObamaKare??
 
You mean like we'll do under ObamaKare??

I mean like they do now, before any reform. Right now we are paying for every single unisured person who gets treatment they can't afford. Before reform, insurance premiums were rising at an alarming rate. Before reform, business was dropping insurance coverage at just as an alarming rate. And before reform, we paid more for less than any nation in the world. This is why many say reform did nto go far enough.
 
For the 5th time, show where in the Rasmussen poll results (you know, the one we are talking about....) that you are correct.

You can't.

You mean show a question they didn't ask? You do realize that is a silly standard. I have shown a few polls proving my point. :coffeepap
 
You mean show a question they didn't ask? You do realize that is a silly standard. I have shown a few polls proving my point. :coffeepap

Good, you finally admitted your continual straw man arguement.

Now, please stop making it.
 
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