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Obama Health-Care Reform Act Ruled Unconstitutional(edited)

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both houses are needed to approve spending, solon

what an idiot

obama, i mean
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

ricksfolly said:
Nope... It's my only source of income and it barely covers all my expenses. You'll find that 90 percent of the other older people who get monthly checks also barely get along.

There's sixty million people out there getting monthly checks from SS, 20 percent of the population, all because Roosevelt had the foresight to see into the future.

ricksfolly
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Actually Roosevelt didn't see the future as he ignored the politicians seeing all that cash and puting that money on the budget so it could be spent for everything other than SS. Had it gone into the lockbox where it belonged you and millions of other Americans would be better off today than they are.

In addition I have to ask, where you taught that SS was to be your sole retirement income? I was taught that it was a supplement and I do feel sorry for you if that is your only source of income as you didn't do yourself any favors during your work career.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

house vetoes spending

idiot

obama
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
The measure is not likely to get past the Democratic-controlled Senate, which has already rejected a stand-alone effort to repeal the healthcare law.

House to vote next week to block health funds | Reuters
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I don't think any in congress actually expect it to pass, and even if it did it would be vetoed. Point is, they are keeping the issue front and center, allowing those who support the healthcare legislation to continue exposing themselves. Just politics, but many were elected to do just that. I'd rather see it struck down in the courts anyway, that's a much stronger nail in the coffin.
 
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other said:
I don't think any in congress actually expect it to pass, and even if it did it would be vetoed. Point is, they are keeping the issue front and center, allowing those who support the healthcare legislation to continue exposing themselves. Just politics, but many were elected to do just that. I'd rather see it struck down in the courts anyway, that's a much stronger nail in the coffin.
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Good. I'm not afraid of the issue and do think in the long run it will hurt conservatives. I think they misread the public on this.
 
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other said:
I don't think any in congress actually expect it to pass, and even if it did it would be vetoed. Point is, they are keeping the issue front and center, allowing those who support the healthcare legislation to continue exposing themselves. Just politics, but many were elected to do just that. I'd rather see it struck down in the courts anyway, that's a much stronger nail in the coffin.
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Wait until the people of Iowa get their next tax bill to pay for the increase in Medicaid spending. Good luck.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
Good. I'm not afraid of the issue and do think in the long run it will hurt conservatives. I think they misread the public on this.
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I think the opposite is true, when's the last time a piece of federal legislation has compelled more than half of the states to sue to have it struck down in court? guess we'll see. :shrug:
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Conservative said:
Wait until the people of Iowa get their next tax bill to pay for the increase in Medicaid spending. Good luck.
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Right. After people start seeing the actual effects of the measures in the bill, it will only become more reviled than it already is. It's destined for the trash heap, one way or another.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

other said:
I think the opposite is true, when's the last time a piece of federal legislation has compelled more than half of the states to sue to have it struck down in court? guess we'll see. :shrug:
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Those are more political than anything else. It is not a measure of the public. But you're right that we will see, eventually.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

buck said:
I find it amusing that you actualyl think you have some great point and are winning this conversation. I keep checking in to find out what your next silly statement will be.
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awwww....how sweet...conservative has a friend
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

other said:
Right. After people start seeing the actual effects of the measures in the bill, it will only become more reviled than it already is. It's destined for the trash heap, one way or another.
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You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect? Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
 
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Sgt Meowenstein said:
You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect? Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
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That is a lie but that is what liberals do when they cannot win on the issue, it is all about the mandate and the expansion of Medicaid that your state will have to pay. don't let the facts get in the way of your partisanship.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
I'm not afraid of the issue
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of what possible worth can the linkless opinion of a person be who believes a president does not need the house to get his funding?
 
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Sgt Meowenstein said:
I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
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that's absurd

those aren't the parts of obamacare the public is concerned about

these are:

Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

ER visits, costs climb - The Boston Globe

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/business/retirementspecial/02health.html

Senate passes doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe
 
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The Prof said:
of what possible worth can the linkless opinion of a person be who believes a president does not need the house to get his funding?
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I do ignore you a lot because you offer nothing intelligent. But, you misread. The house proposal won't get passed, and this means something else will, which will be funding. Sorry you miss the point.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Sgt Meowenstein said:
You mean like the popular provisions that have already gone into effect?
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I haven't seen any huge ground-swell of support for this legislation yet, so yeah. And it'll only get less popular over time.

Yeah, I'm sure the public is thrilled that the GOP wants to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions, make prescription drugs more expensive for seniors, and allow insurers to refuse coverage for children.
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Emotional appeals aside, there are some people actually oppose this legislation on principle and realize such problems can be fixed without unconstitutional mandates.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Boo Radley said:
The house proposal won't get passed, and this means something else will, which will be funding.
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LOL!

thru the boehner house...

unbelievable

what an idiot

obama, i mean
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

other said:
I haven't seen any huge ground-swell of support for this legislation yet, so yeah. And it'll only get less popular over time.



Emotional appeals aside, there are some people actually oppose this legislation on principle and realize such problems can be fixed without unconstitutional mandates.
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As I understand exit polls, 33% persent thought the legislation went too far. 33% thought it didn't go far enough. And 33% thought it was just right. yes, that means 66% weren't happy with it. But that message is a tad more complicated than some present it. Most polls show people want the care in the bill, but have problem with the funding, which means there is a complete disconnect with the public. They can't have the things they want without a means of paying for it.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

hey, it won't get passed (thru boehner's) house

which only means that "something else will"

LOL!

ie, funding---voilla!

what an idiot, obama, i mean

meanwhile, YESTERDAY: Blue Dogs mull budget defection - TheHill.com

TWENTY SIX bluedogs considering coming the speaker's way

mind you, boehner needs exactly ZERO of them

but they're pissed, express their spokesfolk, mike ross of arkansas and heath shuler from NC (former redskins qb who ran against the ex speakeress)

they feel "shut out" of their party's caucus

they feel they have "more in common" with the gop

they met with posterboy of CENTRISM bill clinton in new york last week

"it can't get passed thru house, something else will, which means funding"

is THIS what qualifies for THOUGHT from the obamite crowd?

sadly, yes
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

Conservative said:
That is a lie but that is what liberals do when they cannot win on the issue, it is all about the mandate and the expansion of Medicaid that your state will have to pay. don't let the facts get in the way of your partisanship.
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Oh, I'm a liar now? So if Republicans had their way and the law was repealed, those provisions of the law would stay in place?......That's what I thought. Now that we've cleared that up, what are the Republican proposals that would replace those provisions?.......That's what I thought.
 
Re: Obamacare Unconstitutional

The Prof said:
that's absurd

those aren't the parts of obamacare the public is concerned about

these are:

Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

ER visits, costs climb - The Boston Globe

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/business/retirementspecial/02health.html

Senate passes doc fix - The Hill's Healthwatch

Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg

Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe
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So, according to you, the public is not concerned with pre-existing conditions, covering children or affordable drugs for seniors on Medicare? Yeah, I'm going to have to call a big BULL**** on that one. What a joke.
 
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