That's nonsense. We've talked about all the factors. We spend more than any country, for less, including those countries with a single payer. This is clear. You simply won't look at it. :roll:
No, we haven't talked about all factors, yours is about access and access doesn't reduce costs, never has and never will. Obamacare does nothing to lower costs and you know it. Costs may be a problem but never have the costs been identified including regululations, taxes, ability to sell across state lines, R&D testing requirements, drug costs, cost of living, pay ranges. Keep dodging all because your state doesn't do what you want it to do.
States are a labratory and instead of focusing on that issue you and other liberals want a one size fits all for 300+ million Americans. Never has worked and never will work.
yes, we have. Countless times. The fact that you have ingored it speaks volumes. But, the fact remains, we pay more for less than single payers.
Why do we pay more than other countries of the world then and why are foreign countries dismantling their socialist healthcare model by trying to privatize it?
Same reasons we're struggling. Other factors effect the budgets other than health care. And the movement isn't as large as your side tries to pretend it is. Only a few small moves have been made. The fact remains, they pay less for more than we do.
"They" have less population, less area to cover, lower corporate tax rates, lower R&D expenses, lower average wages. We pay more because we can, because we do have higher tax rates on companies, more people to cover, greater personal choices that lead to obesity and drug usage, higher illegal alien expenses. You have never proposed identifying expenses and cutting them because to you it is all about access, not cost control.
It's measured as a percentage, so no, your weak attempt there doesn't wash. And corporate tax doesn't play a role there. And shows the problem we have with attaching insurance to business instead of government. Again, we've been through this. We pay more for less.
Don't know about you but I get more than I pay as do millions. My wife had colon cancer in 2009 and got the best treatment and is now is cancer free. We have the best medical care in the world and you want to turn it into the DMV.
aren't you part of the problem?
No, I don't. But if you do, aren't you part of the problem?
Unlike you I am happy to live in this country with the healthcare system we have. Part of the problem is the constant whining of liberals who haven't a clue as to what they are whining about. Until you address the costs associated with healthcare adding more people to the roles isn't going to lower costs. Obamacare does nothing to lower costs.
substance: the white house surrenders again, a biggie
today: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/us/politics/01health.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
oh, yes, absolutely, more for less
just like the gramma who paid half a mil into soc sec and got SQUAT cuz she died a few months too soon
Yes, the benefit parts. They just don't want anything that would pay for it. It's that disconnect again.
yes, health care is a problem for everyone. But, we spend more for less. Why do you defend that?
>>oh, yes, absolutely, more for less
just like the gramma who paid half a mil into soc sec and got SQUAT cuz she died a few months too soon
Typical Rep ploy
LOL!
a person making 70K will have to receive soc sec benefits for more than 40 years just to get back his or her principal investment
and if you die a month too soon...
I will put US doctors up against Canada or England any day