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White House to Push Gun Control

Boo Radley said:
You need evidence
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what, that eric holder allowed the SALE of tens of thousands of GUNS to mexican drug CARTELS?

by THREE separate agencies of his overly busy doj?

with no OPERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE?

you need evidence of THAT?

shills make useful idiots
 
Almost a thousand posts and this thread is STILL going on? Mostly one-liners of the "is not/is too!" variety.... I'd be ashamed to still be participating. :lol:


buh-bye....
 
ATF Chief to Resign Over Mexican Guns Controversy

ATF Chief to Resign Over Mexican Guns Controversy - National - The Atlantic Wire

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives acting Director Kenneth Melson is facing pressure to resign over a poorly run gun-trafficking operation blamed for putting weapons in the hands of a border agent's killers.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Director Faces Pressure to Resign in Wake of Shooting - ABC News

I guess he hasn't yet, as reported he would likely here, but the pressure for him to do so is still there.
 
Goshin said:
Almost a thousand posts and this thread is STILL going on? Mostly one-liners of the "is not/is too!" variety.... I'd be ashamed to still be participating. :lol:


buh-bye....
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And yet, you did participate. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
I guess he hasn't yet
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no, he hasn't

instead, he TESTIFIED

LOL!

you literally do not know what's going on around you---again

but the pressure for him to do so is still there
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don't you find that odd

i mean, why should atf take the fall when we now know (thanks to melson's TESTIMONY) that dea and fbi were involved

using, yknow, logic, and all

why does the white house want melson to take the fall when half the doj was involved

why did melson testify the dept tried to "limit his communication"
 
The ATF had operational knowledge. It isn't fruitful to discuss anything with you prof. You properly made a distinction. But as you will devolve in nonsense, I'll leave it that. :2wave:
 
nonsense:

1. the doj sold tens of thousands of guns to mexican drug cartels

2. the fbi, dea and atf were all involved

3. the white house wants melson to take the fall

4. he refused

5. holder's only defense is he went all HANDS OFF on the DEPT WIDE movement of WEAPONS to MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS...

etc

just the facts, maam
 
One of the articles I linked suggested that the larger problem was communicatin between the agencies. Likely. But, you have to show operational involvement, and no facts to show that have been presented. Sorry.
 
it's not holder

it was all "communication between the agencies!"

LOL!

who cares about forty thousand guns...

you gotta be awful blind, mr attorney general

awful blind

holder needs to go
 
Thanks for proving again it is friutless to speak with you Prof. Enjoy. :2wave:
 
1. the doj sold 40000 assault weapons to mexican drug cartels

2. the fbi, dea and atf were all involved

3. they lost track of the weapons, some were used to kill our agents

4. the white house wants melson to take the fall

5. he refused

6. the sitting atf appointed by obama testified to house judiciary that doj tried to "limit his communication" with congress

7. holder's only defense is he DELEGATED---LOL!

it is what it is, the facts
 
ptif219 said:
Then again a person like me with a concealed weapon license may save your life.
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Presumably you would only need one gun for that, and a relatively simple one. I'm not in favor of banning all weapons.
 
Krhazy said:
Presumably you would only need one gun for that, and a relatively simple one. I'm not in favor of banning all weapons.
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what are you in favor of banning

You do know that it is illegal for anyone with a felony record or anyone who intends to engage in a felony to possess any kind of firearm
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059660038 said:
Ban all weapons and repeal the 2nd amendment. This is not a country of cowboys. This is supposed to be a civilized nation.
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That just isn't going to happen. People become very attached to their myths. But in all honesty, many good people hunt and handle weapons safely and responsibily. We don't need to ban all weapons, though a little less romantizing of them wouldn't be a bad thing. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
That just isn't going to happen. People become very attached to their myths. But in all honesty, many good people hunt and handle weapons safely and responsibily. We don't need to ban all weapons, though a little less romantizing of them wouldn't be a bad thing. ;)
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Hunt what? What do you need to hunt?
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059660145 said:
Hunt what? What do you need to hunt?
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Need? I guess that depends on where you live. I can introduce you to people who do hunt for their food. Admittedly, they are no where near a large number.

But, a larger numbers likes to hunt for their own food. As i have said before, when I was younger, poorer, hunting for deer kept meat on my table for the year, and at a much cheaper price than going to market.
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059660038 said:
Ban all weapons and repeal the 2nd amendment. This is not a country of cowboys. This is supposed to be a civilized nation.
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Pack a lunch boy-its gonna be a long day if you try that

a society where only the state and the criminals are armed is not civilized

guns are needed to keep the former in line and the latter in fear
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059660145 said:
Hunt what? What do you need to hunt?
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game and people who would enslave this nation

sometimes criminals too
 
TurtleDude said:
..a society where only the state and the criminals are armed is not civilized

guns are needed to keep the former in line and the latter in fear
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TurtleDude said:
game and people who would enslave this nation..
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the 2nd Amendment was not written so wanna-be Revolutionaries, Vigilantes, and so-called Patriots, could rebel against their democratically-elected govt.
 
TurtleDude said:
game and people who would enslave this nation

sometimes criminals too
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Now, welcome here to the other extreme. We rarely hunt criminals as civilians. Only my reluctance to ever say never keeps me from saying, well, we never do. But, that romantacism sneaks in now and again. ;)
 
Thunder said:
the 2nd Amendment was not written so wanna-be Revolutionaries, Vigilantes, and so-called Patriots, could rebel against their democratically-elected govt.
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LOL more constitutional stupidity
 
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