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Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

The American position in the Middle East is in free fall. The Muslim Brotherhood says:

"The leader of Jordan's powerful Muslim Brotherhood warned Saturday that unrest in Egypt will spread across the Mideast and Arabs will topple leaders allied with the United States.

Hammam Saeed's comments were made at a protest outside the Egyptian Embassy in Amman, inspired by massive rallies in neighboring Egypt demanding the downfall of the country's longtime president, Hosni Mubarak."

My Way News - Jordan's opposition: Arabs will topple tyrants
 
This is really astounishing news, tyranny can only go on for so long, mubarak, if you want to look at it from your everyday joe Egyptian citizen point of view, is a selfish tyrant and a greedy puppet who has ruled Egypt with an iron fist for three decades, unleashing his dogs on their own people to keep them silent, and yet this pathetic being still clings on to hope that he still will remain in power, and pass the keys to the country on his spoiled son, just to keep it in the family. He will be lucky if he doesnt burn in hell.
 
Egypt is not Jordan. Jordan is not Egypt. Why some of you folks infer that all ME nations are cookie-cutter entities is beyond me.

I highly doubt Egyptians merely seek to swap one form of tyranny (Mubarak dictatorship) for another (Islamist dictatorship).
 
Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

Kandahar said:
OMG :shock:
I was of the opinion that there was no way the Tunisian unrest had the ability to spread to the rest of the Arab world. It now appears I was wrong. But an Egyptian revolution is far less likely to turn into a heartening success story than Tunisia, and far more likely to mirror what happened in Iran in 1979.
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It's unlikely anything will change in Egypt. Merely demonstrating in the streets and looting is not a revolution.

Score the victory for Mubarak
 
Tashah said:
Egypt is not Jordan. Jordan is not Egypt. Why some of you folks infer that all ME nations are cookie-cutter entities is beyond me.
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Because, they are the same: Repressive, Totalitarian, Backward Dictatorships

I highly doubt Egyptians merely seek to swap one form of tyranny (Mubarak dictatorship) for another (Islamist dictatorship).
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You mean, like in Iran?
 
I'm just plain scared for the Egyptian people. They are surrounded by chaos, threatened by thugs, watching their world and their dreams fall apart. If I could click my heels together and be granted one wish, it would be that Mubarak would leave the country, the Egyptian military would protect the people from thugs, and a new democracy would take hold in which the people could choose their own government.

I don't see that happening. Mubarak will not leave unless the military forces him out. And Mubarak... not his government... is the root of the problem.
 
Tashah said:
Egypt is not Jordan. Jordan is not Egypt. Why some of you folks infer that all ME nations are cookie-cutter entities is beyond me.

I highly doubt Egyptians merely seek to swap one form of tyranny (Mubarak dictatorship) for another (Islamist dictatorship).
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I TRULY dont think thats what the majority of protestors think or want. I wont be at all surprised if thats what they get. Ive got an old dented Ford that I'll wager that if Mubarek does fall, 2 years from now, people will be longing for the "good old days." Not wishing anything on them...I hope it works out well for them. Stil...
 
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uthman7c said:
It's unlikely anything will change in Egypt. Merely demonstrating in the streets and looting is not a revolution.

Score the victory for Mubarak
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Are you serious, all you have to do is turn on the T.V. and see with your own eyes. your funny:2wave:
 
apdst said:
This is the biggest problem. People hate America, mostly, because they're uninformed.
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there's much to love about America.

if i was uninformed i would do weird **** like make up 95 posts debating Obama's Birth Certificate. some people apparently think that a person can become President of arguably the most powerful country in the world, without anyone looking into their background.
 
Serenity said:
there's much to love about America.

if i was uninformed i would do weird **** like make up 95 posts debating Obama's Birth Certificate. some people apparently think that a person can become President of arguably the most powerful country in the world, without anyone looking into their background.
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your right sweety, i could use some serenity in my life right now.
 
Egypt shuts down Al Jazeera bureau - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

The Egyptian authorities are revoking the Al Jazeera Network's licence to broadcast from the country, and will be shutting down its bureau office in Cairo, state television has said.

"The information minister [Anas al-Fikki] ordered ... suspension of operations of Al Jazeera, cancelling of its licences and withdrawing accreditation to all its staff as of today," a statement on the official Mena news agency said on Sunday.

In a statement, Al Jazeera said it strongly denounces and condemns the closure of its bureau in Cairo by the Egyptian government. The network received notification from the Egyptian authorities on Sunday morning.

"Al Jazeera has received widespread global acclaim for their coverage on the ground across the length and breadth of Egypt," the statement said.

An Al Jazeera spokesman said that the company would continue its strong coverage regardless.
 
it seems like that tyrant mubarek and his regime are in its most desperate moments as time is running out on his dictatorship, he is ready to do anything to hold on, things are going to get real dirty
 
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uthman7c said:
It's unlikely anything will change in Egypt. Merely demonstrating in the streets and looting is not a revolution.

Score the victory for Mubarak
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Are you kidding? There is absolutely no way Mubarak survives this. I give him less than 24 hours before he flees the country.
 
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Kandahar said:
Are you kidding? There is absolutely no way Mubarak survives this. I give him less than 24 hours before he flees the country.
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Then what? What part are the Muslim Brotherhood playing now and will play in the future? Still waiting for someone to point to a revolution in the region that didn't eventually lead to the creation of a repressive Islamic regime?
 
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Conservative said:
Then what? What part are the Muslim Brotherhood playing now and will play in the future? Still waiting for someone to point to a revolution in the region that didn't eventually lead to the creation of a repressive Islamic regime?
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I'm still waiting for a pro-democratic revolution to succeed.

What one must understand is that the Revolution is Iran was a anti-shah revolution, not a pro democratic revolution.

But please continue...
 
Grant said:
You're watching way too much BBC.

The Americans helped the French also against invaders. So too with the Brits, Belch, and so on. Does that make the Americans responsible for British terrorists?

Terrorists are responsible for their actions, not the Americans.

What craziness!
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Irrelevant. Funding terrorism and then saying you are not responsible for there actions is a scapegoat and its pathetic.
 
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Conservative said:
Then what? What part are the Muslim Brotherhood playing now and will play in the future? Still waiting for someone to point to a revolution in the region that didn't eventually lead to the creation of a repressive Islamic regime?
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your screen name and your political lean basically tells the whole story of how you feel, its set in stone, let me guess you think george bush was the greatest president, saddam did really have nukes and iraq was invaded to give iraq's democracy too. your just going to sound like a repititive one tracked mind biased poster who adds nothing of value to the forum. but please proceed wasting your energy typing
 
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Jetboogieman said:
I'm still waiting for a pro-democratic revolution to succeed.

What one must understand is that the Revolution is Iran was a anti-shah revolution, not a pro democratic revolution.

But please continue...
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I agree and that is the point,
I'm still waiting for a pro-democratic revolution to succeed.
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Jetboogieman said:
The current protests are pro-democratic and appear to be succeeding.
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It is the end result that matters not the initial reaction. Most revolutions started as pro democracy revolts and then were co-opted by radical Islamic fundamentalists.
 
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Conservative said:
Then what? What part are the Muslim Brotherhood playing now and will play in the future?
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Right now, their role is mostly low-key. They're just joining the protests like everyone else. In the future...harder to say. That will mostly be up to the Egyptian people to decide. There's no way the Muslim Brotherhood can cease power by force; the Egyptian military hates them and they've renounced violence for so long that they can't cobble together a force of their own.

Conservative said:
Still waiting for someone to point to a revolution in the region that didn't eventually lead to the creation of a repressive Islamic regime?
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That's because, until a couple weeks ago, there have never been any popular Arab revolutions PERIOD. Unless you count Lebanon in 2006, which led to the withdrawal of Syria and the weakening of Hezbollah (at least temporarily).
 
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Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

Hillary Clinton is no longer making watered-down statements voicing "concern" or calling this an "opportunity for reform." She just called for an orderly transition to a democratic participatory government. Game over, Mubarak.

BBC News - Egypt protests: Military 'show of strength' in Cairo
 
Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

What is the Egyptian Army doing? They have a good standing in Egypt and the region, will they continue on this tradition of siding with the popular people?
 
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kaya'08 said:
What is the Egyptian Army doing? They have a good standing in Egypt and the region, will they continue on this tradition of siding with the popular people?
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It looks like they're staging a "show of force" which mostly consists of sending helicopters and tanks to the center of Cairo...but aren't really fighting the protesters, aside from the occasional random shot fired. There have been some reports that the guys in the tanks are demonstrating alongside the Egyptian people.
 
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