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Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

Show us which units were redeployed from Afghanistan to Iraq.

I'm not really interested in doing the research now, but I'm sure there were some.

But my more general point is that Iraq was a waste of time, money and manpower. That's what I and most Americans believe, and I'm not really interested in debating it further. I will say that there was too much of a focus in Iraq that distracted us from Afghanistan, and the manpower and financial resources that were used in Iraq could have been used in Afghanistan if we had fought one war at a time. That's why most generals talking now are saying the war effort in Afghanistan on really began in earnest in 2009, because that's when political will was refocused on Afghanistan, and when money and resources were devoted to building up the ANP and ANA in earnest.
 
and there's the kicker.

it all started under Clinton/Gore's watch and they did absolutely ZERO to stop/prevent it. had Gore won, 9/11 would have still happened and he would've pissed himself in his rush to apologize to the Arab world for "forcing" them to attack us.
Actually it started under Reagan. I doubt 9/11 would have happened under Gore. One of the hijackers had even been captured. Gore had more experience with terrorism and the outcome would have been much different.
 
I'm not really interested in doing the research now, but I'm sure there were some.

But my more general point is that Iraq was a waste of time, money and manpower. That's what I and most Americans believe, and I'm not really interested in debating it further. I will say that there was too much of a focus in Iraq that distracted us from Afghanistan, and the manpower and financial resources that were used in Iraq could have been used in Afghanistan if we had fought one war at a time. That's why most generals talking now are saying the war effort in Afghanistan on really began in earnest in 2009, because that's when political will was refocused on Afghanistan, and when money and resources were devoted to building up the ANP and ANA in earnest.

You be sure and let us know when you're up to it. m'k?
 
Actually it started under Reagan. I doubt 9/11 would have happened under Gore. One of the hijackers had even been captured. Gore had more experience with terrorism and the outcome would have been much different.

puff puff pass brother. whatever you are smoking must be some good ****.

As bad as Bush was...Gore would've been 10 times worse
 
while Clinton was in the oval office getting sucked
our troops were in Somalia getting ****ed

Clinton was gonna get his dick sucked no matter what. That boy was a bona fide pimp. Our boys in Somalia didn't get ****ed BECAUSE Clinton liked blowjobs though.
 
Actually it started under Reagan. I doubt 9/11 would have happened under Gore. One of the hijackers had even been captured. Gore had more experience with terrorism and the outcome would have been much different.

Gore had experience with terrorism? :lamo

More experience ****in' the dog, maybe.

This is getting better and better.
 
Clinton was gonna get his dick sucked no matter what. That boy was a bona fide pimp. Our boys in Somalia didn't get ****ed BECAUSE Clinton liked blowjobs though.

oh hell yeah, most of that crap was **** Clinton stirred up to keep the public's attention diverted from his troubles at home.
 
Clinton was gonna get his dick sucked no matter what. That boy was a bona fide pimp. Our boys in Somalia didn't get ****ed BECAUSE Clinton liked blowjobs though.

No, they got ****ed in Somalia, because Clinton is a dumb ****.
 
I'm often told by many Libbos that I have no credibility, because I supposedly make mistakes all the time. According to Redress, I'm always wrong. Just holding factcheck to the same standard.

While we're on the subject, has factcheck admitted that they were wrong about Bush being AWOL?

not my issue pal - I could not care less ...... again, you are confusing apples and cinderblocks
 
This whole birther thing is sadder than pathetic. People claim there is no proof and then you show them the proof and then they claim that is fake without any backup for their claims.

If you could take them back in a time machine to witness the birth they would find a reason to deny that also. Its really pathetic.
 
This whole birther thing is sadder than pathetic. People claim there is no proof and then you show them the proof and then they claim that is fake without any backup for their claims.

If you could take them back in a time machine to witness the birth they would find a reason to deny that also. Its really pathetic.

I love how an anti-birfer thread brings all the trufers out of the woodwork.
 
and you know this because.???????

Perhaps that is the wrong question. Sorry.

You BELIEVE this because....???????? And I know the answer already. Thank you.

The only person who can produce the REAL birth certificate and academic records is Obama but he has no cahones.
 
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The only person who can produce the REAL birth certificate and academic records is Obama but he has no cahones.

and if he does NOT have it????

What exactly is your proof that the one being shown is a fake?
 
and if he does NOT have it????

What exactly is your proof that the one being shown is a fake?

If he doesn't have one he should get one but he thinks that us peasants don't deserve to look at it.

Who are we anyway???
 
If he doesn't have one he should get one but he thinks that us peasants don't deserve to look at it.

Who are we anyway???

I do not understand you. He does have one.

What do you think the one that was accepted by the authorities is then?
 
Do you remember the LA riots?
If obama was denied the chance to run because of his lack of Constitutional qualifications you would have seen the same thing in every city in the US.

Bull. There's clearly been a procedure put in place sometime in the past couple hundred years, to ensure that a person even getting into the primaries has proven his identity and his capacity to serve as president. This isn't something that should be done AFTER the election, it should have been checked BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN.

His birth was recorded in the newspaper. How much more proof do you really need? I understand he did provide the "short form" birth certificate.

Ya, here's the thing : You PAY for that spot in the newspaper typically... so it doesn't necessarily provide proof...

Abercrombie Birth Certificate: Abercrombie Admits Failure | Long Island Press
Evans said, “Yesterday, talking to Neil’s office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his powers as governor… there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii. Absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii.”

I'm pretty sure that hospitals archive all birth records even going back hundreds of years...correct me if I'm wrong...

I can see both sides here.

from a birther view, why is it such a big deal? Obama should just release the damn info and be done with it.

from a birthers are nutters view, no matter what info Obama releases the birthers won't be satisfied.

The reality is that people want to see that there is a LONG FORM... He has shown the certification of live birth, but that's not the necessary proof, on top of the questions surrounding it's authenticity.

I'm sure there are some people, that as soon as the long form is found and shown to appropriate witnesses (cause he doesn't really need to show all the details publicly), would still go out and try and deny that.

I mean hell, 1-5 years from now he might leave and give a big ol' middle finger and declare 'I was born in Kenya'... not to mention that Michelle Obama has publicly claimed that Obama's hometown was in Kenya. Where the village is PROUD to announce that they were the home to Obama's birthplace...

All I know is that IF Obama comes out and publicly displays his birth certificate, IT WILL ONLY be to call anyone that questions him a racist.... If a voting majority of people fall for that... well, we have the makings of a dictator, because ALL criticism of him will be instantly labeled as racial smearing. Crazy? Hitler was democratically elected... Even Rome was a democracy that created a tyrant.
 
I am going to stick posting in threads where reality at least raises its head now and then.
 
Holy fark, WTH has been going on in this thread?

I'm not reading the 40+ pages of new posts, since it seems to be the same argument still...
 
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