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Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

OscarB63 said:
odd that the newspaper announcement of my birth wasn't proof enough for the army to let me enlist.
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Yay for straw man arguments. Obama has already presented a valid birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. Additional information proving he couldn't possibly have been born elsewhere includes news clipping announcing his birth in Hawaii.They are all primary sources. In historical research primary sources are far more valid than YouTube videos.
 
Hatuey said:
Yay for straw man arguments. Obama has already presented a valid birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. Additional information proving he couldn't possibly have been born elsewhere includes news clipping announcing his birth in Hawaii.They are all primary sources. In historical research primary sources are far more valid than YouTube videos.
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not the "official" copy. my 25 year old son just had to drive from north AL to Ft Walton FL to get a copy of his "long form BC" because the short form wasn't good enough for him to be given a passport. if Obama has the long form, why doesn't he just show it and be done with it?

birf, birf birf
 
OscarB63 said:
not the "official" copy.
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That is the official copy as any alterations to that copy make it invalid for documentation.

my 25 year old son just had to drive from north AL to Ft Walton FL to get a copy of his "long form BC" because the short form wasn't good enough for him to be given a passport. if Obama has the long form, why doesn't he just show it and be done with it?

birf, birf birf
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For the same reason I don't care to prove that we've been to the moon. Because no matter how much evidence I show proving we, the human race, have been there, there are always morons demanding more proof. Conspiracy theorists are not to be encouraged. They are to be ignored.
 
OscarB63 said:
not the "official" copy. my 25 year old son just had to drive from north AL to Ft Walton FL to get a copy of his "long form BC" because the short form wasn't good enough for him to be given a passport. if Obama has the long form, why doesn't he just show it and be done with it?

birf, birf birf
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Would not Obama also need the long form to get a passport? Just a thought.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Would not Obama also need the long form to get a passport? Just a thought.
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Passport ID requirements:

Primary Identification
# Forms of primary identification include a previously issued, undamaged U.S. passport; a naturalization certificate; a valid driver's license; a current government ID (city, state or federal); or a current military ID (military and dependents).
Secondary Identification
# Secondary signature documentation is acceptable if primary documentation is not available. An example of secondary identification may include, but is not limited to, a Social Security card, library card, credit card or employee identification card. An identifying witness may also be used as a form of secondary identification under the U.S. Department of State guidelines.
Considerations
# In addition to providing the identification in person during the application process, photocopies of the front and back of the identification must be provided to the passport office.

Read more: Passport Identification Requirements | eHow.com Passport Identification Requirements | eHow.com
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Hatuey said:
Yay for straw man arguments. Obama has already presented a valid birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. Additional information proving he couldn't possibly have been born elsewhere includes news clipping announcing his birth in Hawaii.They are all primary sources. In historical research primary sources are far more valid than YouTube videos.
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Lets see the birth certificate? if there was one he would show it to stop this controversy
 
StillBallin75 said:
Would not Obama also need the long form to get a passport? Just a thought.
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naw man, heez duh prez. he don't need no stinking passport. seriously though, I have been overseas with the military numerous times and never had to have a passport. I don't think that the POTUS needs a passport for international travel, as long as he is on official gubbermint business. but that is a point, if he's ever had a passport, they should have a copy on file.

which kinda supports the birffers, if all these different agencies have seen this document, why the hell doesn't one of them just show the damn thing and be done with it.

just say, "BLAM, in your face birffer"
 
ptif219 said:
Lets see the birth certificate? if there was one he would show it to stop this controversy
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O my ****...

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Unless you have any real evidence that this is not a valid birth certificate then there is nothing else to discuss. I'm bored with your lame attempts at debating me.
 
Hatuey said:
O my ****...

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Unless you have any real evidence that this is not a valid birth certificate then there is nothing else to discuss. I'm bored with your lame attempts at debating me.
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It is not the legal long form
 
ptif219 said:
It is not the legal long form
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Irrelevant. Unless you have anything else to discuss I'm asking you, politely, to stop trolling this thread. Or do you have any evidence to support the claim that this is not a valid certificate of live birth proving that Obama is indeed a US Citizen?
 
OscarB63 said:
naw man, heez duh prez. he don't need no stinking passport. seriously though, I have been overseas with the military numerous times and never had to have a passport. I don't think that the POTUS needs a passport for international travel, as long as he is on official gubbermint business. but that is a point, if he's ever had a passport, they should have a copy on file.

which kinda supports the birffers, if all these different agencies have seen this document, why the hell doesn't one of them just show the damn thing and be done with it.

just say, "BLAM, in your face birffer"
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I'm sure he travelled overseas before he became President. He even lived overseas. Don't you need a passport to do that?

I have been overseas with the military numerous times and never had to have a passport.
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Interesting. Was that deployment? or being stationed overseas?
 
Hatuey said:
Unless you have any real evidence that this is not a valid birth certificate then there is nothing else to discuss. I'm bored with your lame attempts at debating me.
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My evidence is as good as your evidence...

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There's thousands of these floating around the net. Yours is as good as mine.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'm sure he travelled overseas before he became President. He even lived overseas. Don't you need a passport to do that?
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maybe he had a Kenyan passport? :lamo



Interesting. Was that deployment? or being stationed overseas?
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deployments and TDYs
 
Ockham said:
My evidence is as good as your evidence...

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There's thousands of these floating around the net. Yours is as good as mine.
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Unless of course mine was released by the Obama administration, verified by the State of Hawaii and confirmed by the doctor who saw his mother give birth to him in Hawaii. But hey, don't let the evidence ever get in the way of political retardation.

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
 
Redress said:
My sister's friend's daughter's boyfriend told me he heard second hand that Obama was born in the US, so it must be true. Really, this is the weakest argument you birthers have used yet.
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That's saying something. :slapme:
 
If Hawaii law bars it, the question will always remain.

Undoubtedly, the evasion appears to be suspicious.
 
can we get a mod to merge all these birfer threads into one big mess?
 
Draco said:
If Hawaii law bars it, the question will always remain.

Undoubtedly, the evasion appears to be suspicious.
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There's been no evasion. The standard has been met. There's just no reasoning with a birther. :coffeepap
 
Hatuey said:
Unless of course mine was released by the Obama administration, verified by the State of Hawaii and confirmed by the doctor who saw his mother give birth to him in Hawaii. But hey, don't let the evidence ever get in the way of political retardation.

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
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Mine was blessed by the pope, touched by Jesus, and used as toilet paper in Hati.
 
Boo Radley said:
There's been no evasion. The standard has been met. There's just no reasoning with a birther. :coffeepap
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Though you may not agree, the mere feeling is justified.

What makes your last sentence plausible?
 
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