with you there is no debate, with you, we either agree with you and your view of things, or we are 'obviously' liberals, obviously wrong, obviously have never lived in the 'real world'(at least never lived in your version of the 'real world'), obviously never have ran a business like you(although some of us have our doubts, but that is for another time), obviously never had a 'civics' class in school, 'obviously' don't understand the economy, don't understand taxes, apparently we just don't understand. isnt this your view of anyone who disagrees with you on anything? i believe it is. you are not God my friend, (and if you were, why in the hell are you posting on a debate board, don't you have better things to do?), you can be wrong, (often are) and there are those who oppose you politically, who are just as smart, and who have done as well in real life as you claim to have done. you would do well to remember that.