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Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

RPT-Arizona suspect had made death threats-sheriff | Reuters

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, where the shooting happened, told reporters the suspect had a troubled past. "All I can tell you is that this person may have a mental issue," Dupnik said.
Dupnik said there had been earlier contact between Loughner and law enforcement after he had made death threats, although they had not been against Giffords. He said the authorities believe he may not have been working alone.

Who did he make death threats to and why haven't they come forward, yet. Sounds like the sheriff was just repeating something he was told.
 
I have made some conculsions. I dont blame Obama. I dont blame democrats. I dont blame left wing talk show hosts. I dont blame his victims. I blame HIM.
Of course the shooter is to blame.
So what motivated him is not important?
 
I am really getting tired of rehashing the same things over and over. I am going to wait until there are further developments and more information is released before I make any more comments about the case.
 
Of course the shooter is to blame.
So what motivated him is not important?

Depends...WHAT actually motivated him?

All we know is he has been having problems with alcohol and drugs for the last 4 years, that he has been ranting because he met with the target of his shooting and was outraged she didnt answer his questions, he is a video gamer and in general, an asshole. If you want to connect or assign blame using any of those givens as his motivation...well...OK then. But there is ZERO indicator he was motivated by or even listened to or watched Beck, Palin, or anyone else for that matter.
 
I am really getting tired of rehashing the same things over and over. I am going to wait until there are further developments and more information is released before I make any more comments about the case.

Wow...you should run for Sheriff of Pima County...then we wouldnt be having all this ridiculous speculation.
 
Do you have a link for that rule?
Law enforcement officers talk to the media all the time. Much of what they say is just their opinion about a case or suspect.
How could the sheriffs comments be used in JL's defense? It is totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with the crime. You are really reaching.

I don't recall any of them speculating on how someone's political speech is the direct cause of the crime.
 
Did she blame Democrats and Obama and the tone of their politics for being responsible for the beheadings?

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No, but she lied in a way that might result in a certain class of people being blamed for something that never happened. Tomato Tomahto?
 
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Ugh... Haymarket... the people have the right to recall Sher'f Dumb****. It's in the laws of the state, and it is used to remove idiots when they identify themselves and piss off the electorate.

Recall is a process that I completely support... no problem there. The reality is that Sheriff Dupnik angered the far right by daring to bring up the subject of a possible impact on the political environment by the vitriol they engage in. That makes him public enemy Number One in their eyes. Sure the people have a right to do this. But their motives stink and have nothing to do with his job performance. he is being persecuted because of his own exercise of free speech.
 
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Recall is a process that I completely support... no problem there. The reality is that Sheriff Dupnik angered the far right by daring to bring up the subject of a possible impact on the political environment by the vitriol they engage in. That makes him public enemy Number One in their eyes. Sure the people have a right to do this. But their motives stink and have nothing to do with his job performance. he is being persecuted because of his own exercise of free speech.

:lamo

He isnt being 'persecuted.' He is being held accountable. World of difference. He used the lives of innocent men women and children to launch a politically motivated attack on people that had no connection whatsoever to the shootings. He is being held accountable because he is a partisan hack that plays to other mindless partisan hacks (effectively, obviously) and used his office in the wake of a shooting.
 
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Recall is a process that I completely support... no problem there. The reality is that Sheriff Dupnik angered the far right by daring to bring up the subject of a possible impact on the political environment by the vitriol they engage in. That makes him public enemy Number One in their eyes. Sure the people have a right to do this. But their motives stink and have nothing to do with his job performance. he is being persecuted because of his own exercise of free speech.
the far right, just like the far left, are in the minority in most places, tho they don't like to admit it....they have the power to make a lot of noise, and that is about it...
 
You know what is truly tragic? All they have to do is seat one juror that is similarly politically motivated and present the case that has been GIVEN to the defense by the sheriff, politicians, and other mindless partisans that golly...he was just a kid...and its not his fault becuase he was so unduly influenced by all this hate filled rhetoric...and the shooter can avoid jail.
 
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He isnt being 'persecuted.' He is being held accountable. World of difference. He used the lives of innocent men women and children to launch a politically motivated attack on people that had no connection whatsoever to the shootings. He is being held accountable because he is a partisan hack that plays to other mindless partisan hacks (effectively, obviously) and used his office in the wake of a shooting.

He spoke words of wisdom at a time when they needed to be said.

He is being persecuted by the far right for identifying them and identifying their bully boy tactics.
 
He spoke words of wisdom at a time when they needed to be said.

He is being persecuted by the far right for identifying them and identifying their bully boy tactics.

Let this be a lesson to leftist public officials.
 
Let this be a lesson to leftist public officials.

And if he beats this blatantly politicized effort by far right extremists, will it be a lesson to them?

I know - silly question.
 
He spoke words of wisdom at a time when they needed to be said.

He is being persecuted by the far right for identifying them and identifying their bully boy tactics.

Horse****. He launched a politically motivated attack that enflamed rhetoric.
 
He spoke words of wisdom at a time when they needed to be said.

He is being persecuted by the far right for identifying them and identifying their bully boy tactics.


Has there even been any connection shown between the two? I mean, if the real issue here is vitriolic partisan politics, laying blame on people without any evidence just comes off as vitriolic partisan politics
 
And if he beats this blatantly politicized effort by far right extremists, will it be a lesson to them?

I know - silly question.
might be a lesson to far right pundidts who profit by pandering to the public....
 
sort of what Beck and Palin and Limbaugh do for a living?

Bias much? Notice you didnt include Olberman, Schultz, Obama, or any of the democrats in congress...good grief...you people... :doh

SO if you dont like those people...FINE. Let the president call for a more peaceful tone...but howsabout he does it BEFORE he calls out latinos to target their 'enemies'. Oh...and it has been strangely quiet from the left, from people like you, and from the president, even though democrats this week on the house floor used some most ungentlmanly rhetoric. ****ing hypocrites.

The sheriff used THIS tragedy and then associated THIS tragedy with HIS bias...whcioch had NOTHING to do with the tragedy.
 
who are not elected officials, right?

and that matters how? are there a different set of laws that allow pissants like Palin, Rush bin Limbaugh, and Beck to say whatever they want as long as they get paid millions to do it?
 
Bias much? Notice you didnt include Olberman, Schultz, Obama, or any of the democrats in congress...good grief...you people... :doh

SO if you dont like those people...FINE. Let the president call for a more peaceful tone...but howsabout he does it BEFORE he calls out latinos to target their 'enemies'. Oh...and it has been strangely quiet from the left, from people like you, and from the president, even though democrats this week on the house floor used some most ungentlmanly rhetoric. ****ing hypocrites.

The sheriff used THIS tragedy and then associated THIS tragedy with HIS bias...whcioch had NOTHING to do with the tragedy.

Exactly which statement of the Sheriff do you find so worthy of purging him from his duties in office that he has performed for the last several decades with the support of the people of his county expressed in elections over and over and over again?
 
might be a lesson to far right pundidts who profit by pandering to the public....

because there are NO far left pundits that do that....correct? :lamo
 
Exactly which statement of the Sheriff do you find so worthy of purging him from his duties in office that he has performed for the last several decades with the support of the people of his county expressed in elections over and over and over again?

How about tap dancing in the sticky blood of innocent men women and children and launching political attacks. Thats just for starters. Then, lets see if the facts bear out the allegations that his office not only has had lots of dealings with that ****head in the past but that he has made threats against others in the past as well.
 
Bias much? Notice you didnt include Olberman, Schultz, Obama, or any of the democrats in congress...good grief...you people... :doh

SO if you dont like those people...FINE. Let the president call for a more peaceful tone...but howsabout he does it BEFORE he calls out latinos to target their 'enemies'. Oh...and it has been strangely quiet from the left, from people like you, and from the president, even though democrats this week on the house floor used some most ungentlmanly rhetoric. ****ing hypocrites.

The sheriff used THIS tragedy and then associated THIS tragedy with HIS bias...whcioch had NOTHING to do with the tragedy.
well there is the matter of proportion....the left are rank amateurs when it comes to hatred. Obama can say target without implying the use of guns, Palin used scope sights. Beck even used the words "shoot them in the head" as posted on here, some other thread quoting him, the other day.
The far right that I know personally are a sad mixture of educated and uneducated, misguided elitists who usually call themselves christians, then act contrary to common sense and christian teachings. The left I know are seldom as bad...or vocal. As for the leftist pundits, they suck almost as much as the rightist pundits.
 
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