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Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

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BBC News - Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

Chinese President Hu Jintao has said China has no interest in pursuing an arms race or exerting military dominance over other nations.

On the third day of his visit to the US, Mr Hu called for co-operation on economic and security issues.

From every cultural study that I have read on the Chinese peoples and government, it appears that these sentiments are true. Thoughts....
 
I don't think this is completely true or untrue. China is becoming very interested in asserting its economic domination over other countries, and that could lead to political and military action, though the way that the Chinese economy is set up I doubt that will happen any time soon. The tensions between China and the US are over the Americans' desire for the Chinese to enact policies which would hamper their economy. Obviously China doesn't want to do that, they want to maintain the status quo.
 
In China and Japan, they don't exactly believe in telling you that they're planning to kill you. What else would you expect them to say?
 
In China and Japan, they don't exactly believe in telling you that they're planning to kill you. What else would you expect them to say?

Ok, first of all the Japanese were 70 years ago...

Secondly, you believe the Chinese want to kill you?
 
In China and Japan, they don't exactly believe in telling you that they're planning to kill you. What else would you expect them to say?

We said the same thing with our massive defense build-ups during Reagan's Presidency. You need guns and weapons for defense, and no one can expect the good will of humanity to come through
 
Ok, first of all the Japanese were 70 years ago...

Secondly, you believe the Chinese want to kill you?

Third, Communists are known bald faced liars.

Who's Chin Now, is adept at not answering questions... say like things concerning human rights.

Hopefully the Commi's will collapse, but that could have an economic impact worldwide as their mess gets straightened out. As a Communist run nation, I see hostility. They remind me of a group of Alinsky trained agitators.

An aside: Who's Chin Now's presser with his red leaning buddy the other day reminds me of the following when asked about human rights:



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I don't think this is completely true or untrue. China is becoming very interested in asserting its economic domination over other countries, and that could lead to political and military action, though the way that the Chinese economy is set up I doubt that will happen any time soon. The tensions between China and the US are over the Americans' desire for the Chinese to enact policies which would hamper their economy. Obviously China doesn't want to do that, they want to maintain the status quo.

Please list and explain these policies. I'm calling BULL**** until I see them. The US wants China to stop being a lying bastard on the trading floor. China cheats its ****ing ass off on the valuation of its money.
 
Ok, first of all the Japanese were 70 years ago...

Secondly, you believe the Chinese want to kill you?

No particularly. But I do think the USA and China are headed for a clash, sooner or later.
 
Actually, the Chinese have a strong history and belief in sovereignty, and if one will simply pay attention to China's actions and responses in the UN, one would easily find that China is always placing itself as the defender of state-sovereignty for any actions that the UN wishes to undertake. China is more than happy letting the US remain "world police" and have at every step done nothing to counter this view. Even their actions in the realm of entering new markets shows this. For instance, when the US provides aid monies to other nations in exchange for trade, there are always other stipulations. China provides aid with no strings attached, simply allow us access to your market and here is the aid money. China just wants to do business, not step on the sovereignty of those it comes into contact with.
 
No particularly. But I do think the USA and China are headed for a clash, sooner or later.

The safe measure is to not trust China and what they say, or even by what they do because we don't really know what they do - they're still predominantly a closed country.
 
The safe measure is to not trust China and what they say, or even by what they do because we don't really know what they do - they're still predominantly a closed country.

But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.
 
But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...
China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.
Until the United States and China can compete on fair terms, the mistrust will continue and should. No fear should consume us - but that doesn't mean we willfully ignore the lack of trust, nor does that mean we don't PLAN and be willing to execute those plans should the mistrust be valid.
 
Until the United States and China can compete on fair terms, the mistrust will continue and should. No fear should consume us - but that doesn't mean we willfully ignore the lack of trust, nor does that mean we don't PLAN and be willing to execute those plans should the mistrust be valid.

Nothing more, nothing less :)
 
BBC News - Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination



From every cultural study that I have read on the Chinese peoples and government, it appears that these sentiments are true. Thoughts....

Bull ****ing ****.

You don't build aircraft carriers, submarines, long range missiles and bombers, stealth fighters, and anti satellite missiles, (among many other things), UNLESS you are looking to build a military capable of power projection outside one's own borders. As we have witnessed in its ever increasing aggressive moves with Taiwan, disputed islands between Japan and China, and Tibet, China is increasingly flexing its military muscles.

Peaceful military buildup of China is a farce just as Iran's "peaceful" nuke program. China is positioning itself to become an aggressive international player while giving lip service to calm the fearful and skeptical. The composition and buildup of their military has no other purpose than power projection.

I predict that once China feels it can match or best the US and other major military might, we will witness drastic changes in China's international actions all while they continue to parrot claims of peace, respect, and sovereignty.

The best we can hope for is that China's bubble pops, that their civil and human rights stance drastically improves, and/or other countries stepup and effectively counter their influence and power.
 
But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.

Until they put an honest value on their money, how can we work together?

When you operate internally as Communists, but on the global market as Capitalists, it makes it impossible for a nation to compete monetarily with them to produce goods and services.
 
But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.

Did we ally with the USSR?
 
The Chinese are not America's friends, but so what? America can't effectively deal with China because Americans are too divided to deal effectively with any foreign power.
 
American said:
Please list and explain these policies. I'm calling BULL**** until I see them. The US wants China to stop being a lying bastard on the trading floor. China cheats its ****ing ass off on the valuation of its money.

I was very obviously talking about the revaluation of the Yuan, which I even referred to. It doesn't matter if you think they're artificially devaluing the currency or not, the fact is that the US wants them to revaluate it and the Chinese don't want to. You can whine about how they're doing it artificially all you want but that's irrelevant to my point.
 
Did we ally with the USSR?

The perils this century holds, far outweighs what has come before. All nations will have to work together. Most likely they won't, some will. But it sure wouldn't hurt having China and the US work together to solve problems.
 
BBC News - Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination



From every cultural study that I have read on the Chinese peoples and government, it appears that these sentiments are true. Thoughts....

Which is why China has more than 1000 missiles pointed at Taiwan, claims the entire South China Sea and nearly all of the East China Sea as its territorial waters, uses "fishing" boats to encroach on the territorial waters of neighboring states... . yeah, do you really understand this part of the world???
 
Actually, the Chinese have a strong history and belief in sovereignty, and if one will simply pay attention to China's actions and responses in the UN, one would easily find that China is always placing itself as the defender of state-sovereignty for any actions that the UN wishes to undertake. China is more than happy letting the US remain "world police" and have at every step done nothing to counter this view. Even their actions in the realm of entering new markets shows this. For instance, when the US provides aid monies to other nations in exchange for trade, there are always other stipulations. China provides aid with no strings attached, simply allow us access to your market and here is the aid money. China just wants to do business, not step on the sovereignty of those it comes into contact with.

Do you HONESTLY believe this? It has a territorial dispute with nearly ALL of its neighbors and regularly infringes on the territorial waters of its neighbors...
 
Ludahai,

They don't understand. And the fact they don't understand should tell you something about the condition of the American people.
 
They certainly wish to destroy the independent democracy we enjoy where I live...

Yeah but they don't, which means there's more to it then that. Even if it started out that way decades ago.

Mistrust often hampers progress.

And we can talk about US involvement and posturing all day.

But the fact is, one day, someone has to let bygones be bygones.
 
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