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AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
 
Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.

Are you serious??
 
Are you serious??

Yes I'm serious.
if you were injured in that way in some twisted depraved accident and blamed the damn moon and stars I wouldn't judge you for it.

It's everyone ELSE (news personalities, commentaries, etc) who are out of line - not someone who actually suffered physically for someone's insanity.

I feel bad for the living victims - and I will not hold anything against them because of this.
 
NO ONE should be blamed for this except the person who SHOT HIM. This man is insane for blaming people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Totally political and totally insane.
 
NO ONE should be blamed for this except the person who SHOT HIM. This man is insane for blaming people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Totally political and totally insane.

I've seen how war effects a soldier's ability to function normally, think rationally, and be reasonable. . . PTSD or whatever you want to call it.
I DON'T hold it against them.

The human mind - in response to a horrible experience - struggles to cope. If that's how he FEELS then I'm not about to judge him - sure, it's not the way things *really are*- but if that is his FEELINGS then that's his feelings. I'm not about to dish my opinions on him and make his situation WORSE.

The surviving victims need support - sound, reasonable, listening support- not judgment and ridicule.
 
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AS, should he have been arrested?
 
Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
You're not going to encourage them to not express it? What if he had carried out the threat? That would be expressing it, too.
 
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You're not going to encourage them to not express it? What if he had carried out the threat? That would be expressing it.

It's common and understandable for actual victims of such horrific events to act on uncontrollable emotions. PTSD is a serious mental issue - someone suffering from it NEEDS serious medical attention because, no, they are not 100% in control of theirselves or thinking rationally.

Rape victims and victims of continual abuse who strike back at their assailants are a perfect example of why post-trauma intervention is vital to them leading a normal life.

Yet for a victim of continual abuse or rape - actually striking back at their supposed assailant is a reasonable and understandable defense. Does anyone judge them FOR their reaction? In quite a few cases the anser is no.

I feel that Fuller as being no different than the many other situations of the same ilk.

He is having issues - he needs help - and I'm not going to judge him for what he's suffering through at all. It is not his fault. Blaming victims for their responses and reactions is why many victims of various crimes DON'T come forward.
 
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Aunt Spiker.....?

Oh sorry - didn't see your question.
By the law they did the right thing - he posed a direct threat and they responded to his actions.

But I think he's having serious issues and should be placed first and foremost in the care of a psychiatric unit for a little while. . .He needs *help* - not a trial :shrug:

I still don't look *down* on him for what he's feeling. . .do I agree with him or encourage him to act on his feelings? no - but I don't think he's a horrible person for struggling with this.

I really truly hope he pulls through and is given the care he needs. If he pulls through then maybe he'll see things with a different - more reasonable - perspective.

But then again - he might struggle with these issues his whole entire life. (I pray not, though).
 
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Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

The liberals and their lies are coming home to roost...

Great job people... Pat yourselves on the back and we'll all wait for the next time you incite violence with you lies and malicious rhetoric.

Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier
Updated: Saturday, 15 Jan 2011, 4:04 PM M

A town hall meeting was held Saturday in Tucson for an ABC news special. Authorities said during that meeting, one of the shooting victims, J. Eric Fuller, took exception to comments made by two speakers.

Deputies said at some point, Fuller took a photo of Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries and told him, "You're dead."

Fuller was escorted out of the room and could be charged with disorderly conduct.

Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier
 
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The liberals and their lies are coming home to roost...

Great job people... Pat yourselves on the back and we'll all wait for the next time you incite violence with you lies and malicious rhetoric.



Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

Grim. Your post defines irony. You are doing exactly what you are claiming others are doing. You are part of the problem.
 
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Grim. Your post defines irony. You are doing exactly what you are claiming others are doing. You are part of the problem.
No, the irony is in that certain left wing pundits seem to now have created the very atmosphere they wrongly bashed the TEA party for.
 
Oh sorry - didn't see your question.
By the law they did the right thing - he posed a direct threat and they responded to his actions.

But I think he's having serious issues and should be placed first and foremost in the care of a psychiatric unit for a little while. . .He needs *help* - not a trial :shrug:

If he pulls through? I believe he was at a meeting, took a picture of a tea party leader and said "you're dead"














I still don't look *down* on him for what he's feeling. . .do I agree with him or encourage him to act on his feelings? no - but I don't think he's a horrible person for struggling with this.

I really truly hope he pulls through and is given the care he needs. If he pulls through then maybe he'll see things with a different - more reasonable - perspective.

But then again - he might struggle with these issues his whole entire life. (I pray not, though).

If he pulls through? I believe he was at a meeting, took a picture of a tea party leader and said "you're dead"
 
Oh sorry - didn't see your question.
By the law they did the right thing - he posed a direct threat and they responded to his actions.

But I think he's having serious issues and should be placed first and foremost in the care of a psychiatric unit for a little while. . .He needs *help* - not a trial :shrug:

Do you feel the same way for the guy who shot him, Gabrielle Giffords and others?
 
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The irony is that we are noticing the ironies of the ironies of the.....

Wait...
 
It's common and understandable for actual victims of such horrific events to act on uncontrollable emotions. PTSD is a serious mental issue - someone suffering from it NEEDS serious medical attention because, no, they are not 100% in control of theirselves or thinking rationally.

Rape victims and victims of continual abuse who strike back at their assailants are a perfect example of why post-trauma intervention is vital to them leading a normal life.

Yet for a victim of continual abuse or rape - actually striking back at their supposed assailant is a reasonable and understandable defense. Does anyone judge them FOR their reaction? In quite a few cases the anser is no.

I feel that Fuller as being no different than the many other situations of the same ilk.

He is having issues - he needs help - and I'm not going to judge him for what he's suffering through at all. It is not his fault. Blaming victims for their responses and reactions is why many victims of various crimes DON'T come forward.

What about all the other threats then? Does this innocent man and his family deserve what he is going through? What did he ever do?
Tucson Tea Party Chair Warned to ‘Stay Away From Public Places’ | The Blaze
 
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The irony is that we are noticing the ironies of the ironies of the.....

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No, the irony is in that certain left wing pundits seem to now have created the very atmosphere they wrongly bashed the TEA party for.

You said it MUCH better than Grim. I agree with you.

Learning well, my padawan is. ;)
 
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The irony is that we are noticing the ironies of the ironies of the.....

Wait...

Thanks. I needed more iron in my diet. :2razz:
 
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So, how long do you think it will take before the media either blames this one on conservatives, or assesses equal blame on both sides?

You all know that's what's going to happen don't you?
 
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So, how long do you think it will take before the media either blames this one on conservatives, or assesses equal blame on both sides?

You all know that's what's going to happen don't you?

I blame conservatives. I blame both. I blame Grim. I blame the media. I AM the media.

Wait... I think I just blamed myself. Heck... I blame everyone.
 
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