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Postings of a Troubled Mind

Erod

Erod

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Postings of a Troubled Mind - WSJ.com

Mr. Loughner seemed consumed with the outlet the private-posting world provided, says Mr. Montanaro, who was also part of SancT/Collab. Compared with the debates he had engaged in as a young teen, his postings were often nonsensical, say people who knew him in both settings. Mr. Montanaro described them as "weird poems coupled with 'logic' statements."

Even in a setting that includes the raw and often raunchy thoughts of young men, Mr. Loughner's postings were startling. They show an obsession with language, a hatred of the educational system and aggression—all of which later became themes of videos posted by Mr. Loughner on YouTube in the months before the shooting. In the forum posts, Mr. Loughner never mentions any political views explicitly, nor does he name any political figures.
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Has anyone noticed a DP member disappearing over the past few days? I say that in jest, but you wonder if Loughner ever happened along here.

A lot of this guys rants are going to come forward from a lot of websites in the coming days. Sounds like television wasn't his source of ire, but he most willing to share his dark thoughts online.

Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’ - TVNewser
 
You might think the BS coming from the Obamedia might slow down with the wild and crazy accusations that it was Conservatives on radio of Sarah Palin who was to blame since it has come out that the nut didn't watch TV or listen to Talk radio, but they keep making up crap and like Matthews and Bill Maher, they make up crap and run with it as if it were the facts.

The really bad part is they use each others lies as a source, by saying it has been reported that, blah, blah, blah. They do it all the time it's like like every time something happens they do it and the dumb-ass Liberal believe it, like the BS about the Tea Party bring Racist and hate mongers.

I heard a woman sall in today and say those very things about the Tea Party but when pressed for and example she couldn't come with any and finally hung up.

No one wants to blame the Nut and those who failed to act on his clear mental instability, they want to use it to make changes in laws to shut down free speech and any political dissent.

It was okay to attack Bush and Chaney but don't say a word about the Messiah or your a racist hateful SOB.
 
Councilman said:
You might think the BS coming from the Obamedia might slow down with the wild and crazy accusations that it was Conservatives on radio of Sarah Palin who was to blame since it has come out that the nut didn't watch TV or listen to Talk radio, but they keep making up crap and like Matthews and Bill Maher, they make up crap and run with it as if it were the facts.

The really bad part is they use each others lies as a source, by saying it has been reported that, blah, blah, blah. They do it all the time it's like like every time something happens they do it and the dumb-ass Liberal believe it, like the BS about the Tea Party bring Racist and hate mongers.

I heard a woman sall in today and say those very things about the Tea Party but when pressed for and example she couldn't come with any and finally hung up.

No one wants to blame the Nut and those who failed to act on his clear mental instability, they want to use it to make changes in laws to shut down free speech and any political dissent.

It was okay to attack Bush and Chaney but don't say a word about the Messiah or your a racist hateful SOB.
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the ability to post that found above rules out my guess, erod
 
He should have joined my gaming forum instead.

Edit: So I could ban him, of course.

What forum did he join?
 
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This is a purely hypothetical situation, but what if you were like some psychopath who just killed a bunch of people like that guy in the news. The police have went through his computer and seen all of the stuff he did on the internet. Now in this hypothetical situation, what if you did the same thing, and the media released announcements and news articles on like pretty much every forum your a member of, your Facebook, your YouTube, etc. What would the media report about your online behaviour?

They would probably freak out at some of the sites I look at and say I'm "a disturbed young man". For my YouTube account they would probably say something stupid like "he's an emo" and he's into some pretty ****ed up **** (upon browsing my "best videos" playlist on my YouTube account). Upon looking at all of my accounts and posts on the 122 forums I go to, they would probably say things like "he posts a lot, and he's also into politics, like how he has 630+ posts on a political forum," they would also say that I seemed perfectly normal once they saw my Facebook. If they read my Debate Politics posts though, oh my god, they would be like "what the **** is wrong with this guy?" if they saw some of my posts in The Basement.
 
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Solace said:
This is a purely hypothetical situation, but what if you were like some psychopath who just killed a bunch of people like that guy in the news. The police have went through his computer and seen all of the stuff he did on the internet. Now in this hypothetical situation, what if you did the same thing, and the media released announcements and news articles on like pretty much every forum your a member of, your Facebook, your YouTube, etc. What would the media report about your online behaviour?

They would probably freak out at some of the sites I look at and say I'm "a disturbed young man," or say that I "visit way too many forums (122 forums, it used to be more, but I cleaned out my bookmarks).
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I dont' think we want to know how much our surfing is being monitored and recorded.
 
Erod said:
I dont' think we want to know how much our surfing is being monitored and recorded.
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They have his computer confiscated for evidence, just look under browser history. I clean out my history every 15 minutes though, lol. Literally. But they could just look at my bookmarks and my "saved passwords".
 
Erod said:
Postings of a Troubled Mind - WSJ.com



Has anyone noticed a DP member disappearing over the past few days? I say that in jest, but you wonder if Loughner ever happened along here.

A lot of this guys rants are going to come forward from a lot of websites in the coming days. Sounds like television wasn't his source of ire, but he most willing to share his dark thoughts online.

Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’ - TVNewser
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... does that mean the press and the petulant Sher'f will be out to shut down sites like debatepolitics.com now? Course correction?

If the drivel Sher'f Dumb**** provided is any indication, all that political discourse, challenging a socialist President and his socialist party and kicking their asses historically is unhealthy. Perhaps they'll call for the banning of all vocal conservatives from political discussion for the good of the USSA. Just like Tipper Gore called for the banning of violence on TV, video games or whatever the hell she had pent up frustrations about... perhaps it was being unable to satistfy Algore's Second Chakra?

Perhaps we'll just let people speak freely, allowing individuals ample rope to reveal and hang themselves, as Sher'f Dumb**** and the journOlists have just done.

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zimmer said:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... does that mean the press and the petulant Sher'f will be out to shut down sites like debatepolitics.com now? Course correction?

If the drivel Sher'f Dumb**** provided is any indication, all that political discourse, challenging a socialist President and his socialist party and kicking their asses historically is unhealthy. Perhaps they'll call for the banning of all vocal conservatives from politcal discussion for the good of the USSA. Just like Tipper Gore called for the banning of violence on TV, video games or whatever the hell she had pent up frustrations about... perhaps it was being unable to satistfy Algore's Second Chakra?

Perhaps we'll just let people speak freely, allowing individuals ample rope to reveal and hang themselves, as Sher'f Dumb**** and the journOlists have just done.

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When Hillalry said "it takes a village" she did not mean to go out and create an entire village of strawmen.
 
Bizarre how even an article only about Loughner's internet habits becomes a pisspot for "those damn liberals" comments. "He's a one trick pony, one trick is all that horse can do..."
 
I can't view the Basement here anymore, wtf?
 
Do you know what's scary? I played StarCraft and Diablo in 7th grade too...

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a psychopath that attempts (and fails) to assassinate senators?
/sarcasm
 
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Solace said:
Do you know what's scary? I played StarCraft and Diablo in 7th grade too...

Does that mean I'm going to turn into a psychopath that attempts (and fails) to assassinate senators?
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You know, Im honestly surprised idiots havent pointed the finger at the entertainment industry yet like they usually do when shootings happen.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
You know, Im honestly surprised idiots havent pointed the finger at the entertainment industry yet like they usually do when shootings happen.
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Oh they will, just wait.
 
Edit: wrong forum, sorry
 
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haymarket said:
When Hillalry said "it takes a village" she did not mean to go out and create an entire village of strawmen.
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Are you talking about a different topic than I? It seems so. Memory problems perhaps?

This is a good example of why I left the Left. You have to suspend reality and forget even the most recent history to make it through the day. A parade of self delusion... it's a world I could not live in.

I do recall an assault on Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and The Tea Party for a dynamic that has brought about a climate that results in such heinous acts as what happened in AZ. That was the storyline by Sher'f Dumb**** and the journOlists. You forget already?

BTW, when Hillary said it takes a village, she was talking about good'ol socialism at work. It doesn't take a village, it takes good parenting.

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zimmer said:
This is a good example of why I left the Left. You have to suspend reality and forget even the most recent history to make it through the day. A parade of self delusion... it's a world I could not live in.
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Me, too. I was never among the left, but I was certainly in that centrist area once upon a time. Over time, the absurdity just becomes too much. The contradictions, the bald-faced lies, the multiple characters like Sheriff Dumbass, Pelosi, Schumer, and Bill Maher. The insanity becomes too much.
 
Erod said:
Me, too. I was never among the left, but I was certainly in that centrist area once upon a time. Over time, the absurdity just becomes too much. The contradictions, the bald-faced lies, the multiple characters like Sheriff Dumbass, Pelosi, Schumer, and Bill Maher. The insanity becomes too much.
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At 17 my belief system was right in line with the fervent, Kool-Aid drinking Yes We Can cult.

I was a true believer, though at that time I probably couldn't tell you left from right politically. I was indoctrinated and didn't know it.

Abortion... yep.
Anti-Death Penalty... yep.
Nationalized industries like PetroCan in Kanuckistan... yep.
Socialized medicine... you betcha.

I wasn't against the wealthy though, and had no real position on taxation. Probably because I hadn't made much money up to that point, but with every passing year these positions started melting away as I learned more and more. It took about 13-years for my take on socialist medical care to fall. Hell, at university I remember writing a paper for a Swedish buddy about the virtues of socialist medicine (projectile puke icon)... ROTFLOL. The real learning occurred after leaving university and starting my life as a global nomad.

When faced with an honest appraisal on issue after issue, there was no choice but to change my tune. As an intellectual exercise how can one come to another conclusion than embrace conservatism, though on any political exercise I line up right alongside Friedman? As an emotional exercise... well, that's another story, and it's their story. Appeal to emotion and ignore reality.

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zimmer said:
At 17 my belief system was right in line with the fervent, Kool-Aid drinking Yes We Can cult.

I was a true believer, though at that time I probably couldn't tell you left from right politically. I was indoctrinated and didn't know it.

Abortion... yep.
Anti-Death Penalty... yep.
Nationalized industries like PetroCan in Kanuckistan... yep.
Socialized medicine... you betcha.

I wasn't against the wealthy though, and had no real position on taxation. Probably because I hadn't made much money up to that point, but with every passing year these positions started melting away as I learned more and more. It took about 13-years for my take on socialist medical care to fall. Hell, at university I remember writing a paper for a Swedish buddy about the virtues of socialist medicine (projectile puke icon)... ROTFLOL. The real learning occurred after leaving university and starting my life as a global nomad.

When faced with an honest appraisal on issue after issue, there was no choice but to change my tune. As an intellectual exercise how can one come to another conclusion than embrace conservatism, though on any political exercise I line up right alongside Friedman? As an emotional exercise... well, that's another story, and it's their story. Appeal to emotion and ignore reality.

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So you replaced one irrational ideology with another. ideologies are irrational because they assume or simplyify context and assume fixes for all problems regardless of varying factors. pssst, councilman's rant made no sense whatsoever. so why piggyback off of it. btw, what is the topic?
 
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Erod said:
Postings of a Troubled Mind - WSJ.com



Has anyone noticed a DP member disappearing over the past few days? I say that in jest, but you wonder if Loughner ever happened along here.

A lot of this guys rants are going to come forward from a lot of websites in the coming days. Sounds like television wasn't his source of ire, but he most willing to share his dark thoughts online.

Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’ - TVNewser
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I read through a number of his apparent posts on Above Top Secret.
 
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So you replaced one irrational ideology with another. ideologies are irrational because they assume or simplyify context and assume fixes for all problems regardless of varying factors. pssst, councilman's rant made no sense whatsoever. so why piggyback off of it. btw, what is the topic?
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Well, not exactly. In the first instance I didn't subscribe to an ideology, I was conditioned to accept an irrational ideology. I didn't know it as an ideology, but I certainly subscribed to virtually all its decrepit pillars.

As for changing, it was a lengthy process of trying to figure out the greatest good for the greatest number. Having traveled the world and being able to compare Eurosocialism, Kanuckistani Eurosocialism, and American Exceptionalism... it became pretty clear what provided the greatest good for the greatest number. But, socialism has reared it's brutally ugly head in America, and wreaked havoc. 13,000,000,000,000 little havocs.

I believe we have a responsibility to be informed and make wise decisions. Conservatism holds the wisdom of the ages, and America was blessed to have men ground a country upon these timeless principles. It took me a while to discover their genius. May you one day become enlightened as well. We've seen what fails, and it's not limited government and personal responsibility. Look anywhere... Greece, Germany, France, Sweden, Spain, Kanuckistan... America... and you see the gross problems socialism brings.

As for the OP... I wrote the following, and will add the Libs have many troubled minds amongst their leadership and the propagandists we know as journOlists. Their abuse of this horrific event for political purposes does not get any lower.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... does that mean the press and the petulant Sher'f will be out to shut down sites like debatepolitics.com now? Course correction?

If the drivel Sher'f Dumb**** provided is any indication, all that political discourse, challenging a socialist President and his socialist party and kicking their asses historically is unhealthy. Perhaps they'll call for the banning of all vocal conservatives from political discussion for the good of the USSA. Just like Tipper Gore called for the banning of violence on TV, video games or whatever the hell she had pent up frustrations about... perhaps it was being unable to satistfy Algore's Second Chakra?

Perhaps we'll just let people speak freely, allowing individuals ample rope to reveal and hang themselves, as Sher'f Dumb**** and the journOlists have just done.

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niftydrifty said:
So you replaced one irrational ideology with another. ideologies are irrational because they assume or simplyify context and assume fixes for all problems regardless of varying factors. pssst, councilman's rant made no sense whatsoever. so why piggyback off of it. btw, what is the topic?
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Common sense based on life experience and personal accountability is not an ideology. Conservatism is vastly superior to liberalism in that regard.
 
zimmer said:
At 17 my belief system was right in line with the fervent, Kool-Aid drinking Yes We Can cult.

I was a true believer, though at that time I probably couldn't tell you left from right politically. I was indoctrinated and didn't know it.

Abortion... yep.
Anti-Death Penalty... yep.
Nationalized industries like PetroCan in Kanuckistan... yep.
Socialized medicine... you betcha.

I wasn't against the wealthy though, and had no real position on taxation. Probably because I hadn't made much money up to that point, but with every passing year these positions started melting away as I learned more and more. It took about 13-years for my take on socialist medical care to fall. Hell, at university I remember writing a paper for a Swedish buddy about the virtues of socialist medicine (projectile puke icon)... ROTFLOL. The real learning occurred after leaving university and starting my life as a global nomad.

When faced with an honest appraisal on issue after issue, there was no choice but to change my tune. As an intellectual exercise how can one come to another conclusion than embrace conservatism, though on any political exercise I line up right alongside Friedman? As an emotional exercise... well, that's another story, and it's their story. Appeal to emotion and ignore reality.

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Thanks for that. The process and awakening was very similar within me, and lends credence to the addage "If you're 20 and a Republican, you don't have a heart; if you're 40 and a Democrat, you don't have a brain." Too harsh for sure, but also pretty on target.

I'd add to your description that over time I became tired of how embittered the left tends to be, and how they seem obsessed with "sticking it" to people that might have a better life in their eyes, or made better decisions along the way. Conservatives tend to own their lot in life more, and see it as the product of their personal decisions.
 
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Erod said:
I'd add to your description that over time I became tired of how embittered the left tends to be, and how they seem obsessed with "sticking it" to people that might have a better life in their eyes, or made better decisions along the way. Conservatives tend to own their lot in life more, and see it as the product of their personal decisions.
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Spot on.

In relation to the OP... how bitter does one have to be to attempt to assign blame to people like Rush and Palin for the massacre of innocents by some psycho or sociopath, and take this pathetic road because they cannot achieve their socialist political goals any longer through their old avenues (which have rarely been grounded in honest debate or presentation)?
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Obama with the aid of the journOlists is pretty good at foisting a facade, but the bitter (clinger) ooze seeps through the cracks often enough to let you see what's hiding behind the massive slurry wall the facade is glued to. Just look at Rev. Wright, and listen to some of Michelle's speeches and I believe you get a good insight into Obama's true character. He absorbed Alinsky's lessons well, as noted by Alinsky's son.

There is one hard core leftist I really like. I think he's nutso, but I respect his honesty, and he doesn't seem to take his morning overdose of bitter pills. If the Dem party were as honest as Dennis Kucinich, this country would have 10% of the problems we have at the moment... because almost nobody would elect them.

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zimmer said:
Spot on.

In relation to the OP... how bitter does one have to be to attempt to assign blame to people like Rush and Palin for the massacre of innocents by some psycho or sociopath, and take this pathetic road because they cannot achieve their socialist political goals any longer through their old avenues (which have rarely been grounded in honest debate or presentation)?
...

Obama with the aid of the journOlists is pretty good at foisting a facade, but the bitter (clinger) ooze seeps through the cracks often enough to let you see what's hiding behind the massive slurry wall the facade is glued to. Just look at Rev. Wright, and listen to some of Michelle's speeches and I believe you get a good insight into Obama's true character. He absorbed Alinsky's lessons well, as noted by Alinsky's son.

There is one hard core leftist I really like. I think he's nutso, but I respect his honesty, and he doesn't seem to take his morning overdose of bitter pills. If the Dem party were as honest as Dennis Kucinich, this country would have 10% of the problems we have at the moment... because almost nobody would elect them.

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That is true about Kucinich. At least he has the gonads to be what he is, instead of constantly running interference and avoiding getting painted with the truth. For that, I do respect him, though I agree with nothing he says. I don't get how he constantly gets elected. I know he's in a liberal district, but it's not exactly San Francisco.
 
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