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Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

"Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.""



now that's "rhetoric" :thumbs:

Jefferson would have been branded a bigot...:lamo
 
Give an example of a term Palin is "making definition up for" or retract your lie.

Grammaticalisation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Semantic Bleaching


(Oh and just a little clue for you before you put your other foot in your mouth: The ADL correctly points out the definition of "blood libel" palin used was correct. ADL Statement on Sarah Palin's Response to Tucson Tragedy )

Don't worry... just another ignorant hit and run statement... don't expect a coherent response...
 
Only by genuinely stupid, exceedingly stupid, people.

The murder was committed by an insane person and was described by former classmate Caitie Parker as "left wing" and "a pothead" and that Loughner listed Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and Marx's "Communist Manifesto" among his favorite books.

This was an insane act committed by a psychopath with no control over his thinking, a trait shared by many on the left it seems.

Along with Mein Kampf, was Ayn Rand, which puts an entirely different perspective on his politics, which just might have changed in the many years since his "friend" last saw him..

"Pychopathy" is not a mental illness. On what basis do you make this diagnosis. Or, indeed, the differential if vague diagnosis of "insanity"?
 
Jefferson was a rapist?

I wasn't there. She may have been willing from the first time, I don't know. But if she was a slave, she wasn't free to leave him at any time. Slaves probably weren't inclined to telling their masters "No." though.
 
Jefferson was a rapist?

Yes, a certain William Jefferson is. Of course some say it depends what the meaning of "is" is.

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I wasn't there. She may have been willing from the first time, I don't know. But if she was a slave, she wasn't free to leave him at any time. Slaves probably weren't inclined to telling their masters "No." though.

Doesn't make it rape, does it?
 
Along with Mein Kampf, was Ayn Rand, which puts an entirely different perspective on his politics, which just might have changed in the many years since his "friend" last saw him..

Why do you quote 'friend ' when I said 'classmate'? Do you know how 'many years' since his classmate last saw him?

So you feel perhaps that his reading list was the cause of his murderous rampage? How about pot? Did that play a part also? His enjoyment of Alice In Wonderland?
"Pychopathy" is not a mental illness. On what basis do you make this diagnosis. Or, indeed, the differential if vague diagnosis of "insanity"?

I was going only on his reputation as told by people who knew him, as well as his teachers, and the fact that he shot and killed numerous innocent people. Of course there is a chance he is not mentally ill if we are judging him by some politically correct standards known only to a special few.. Maybe he just had a bad hairless day.

A psychopath is not mentally ill?

OK. My apologies if i offended you in some way.
 
Along with Mein Kampf, was Ayn Rand, which puts an entirely different perspective on his politics, which just might have changed in the many years since his "friend" last saw him..

"Pychopathy" is not a mental illness. On what basis do you make this diagnosis. Or, indeed, the differential if vague diagnosis of "insanity"?



I've read obama's book. Does that make me a liberal? /facepalm


The dood was a-political. This is beyond foolish now.
 
I'd never heard the term before this manufactured controversy, but I know that language evolves, and that words and phrases change meaning over time, that definitions broaden.

Would Mrs. Palin's critics have me believe she is accusing Jews of these murders? Accusing Jews of slandering her? I mean, if we're going to be literal and apply a 2000 year-old definition, let's get to it already.

Reading the reportage of the last five days, I've seen a few key terms pop-up suddenly. Among them, "the commentariat," who seem to have started this nonsense, and "martial" vocabulary, including such suddenly charged terms as "target," and "campaign."

Sarah's critics seem to want it both ways. She's too stupid for politics, yet she's smart enough to apply an arcane term to get a subliminal dig at a group who has done her no harm, and poses no threat.
 
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A psychopath is not mentally ill?

OK. My apologies if i offended you in some way.

Nearly there. a "Psychopath" has a personality disorder, not "insanity" or mental illness. As for his classmate, with friends like her, who needs enemies? She was his classmate, he's 22 years old. How long since they were in class together?
 
Nearly there. a "Psychopath" has a personality disorder, not "insanity" or mental illness. As for his classmate, with friends like her, who needs enemies? She was his classmate, he's 22 years old. How long since they were in class together?

I'm of the opinion that Jared Loughner did have a personality disorder when he murdered six people but you may have more experience along these lines than I do.

As explained earlier the woman was a classmate, not a friend. and she attended school with him three years previous. She apparently felt his personality was not altogether orderly..

However if you feel she spoke out of turn and was disloyal to her classmate then it demonstrates yet again that there are a wide variety of opinions in this old world.
 
Nearly there. a "Psychopath" has a personality disorder, not "insanity" or mental illness. As for his classmate, with friends like her, who needs enemies? She was his classmate, he's 22 years old. How long since they were in class together?

What are your qualifications to make such a distinction and analysis of his mental disorder?
 
I'd never heard the term before this manufactured controversy, but I know that language evolves, and that words and phrases change meaning over time, that definitions broaden.

Would Mrs. Palin's critics have me believe she is accusing Jews of these murders? Accusing Jews of slandering her? I mean, if we're going to be literal and apply a 2000 year-old definition, let's get to it already.

Reading the reportage of the last five days, I've seen a few key terms pop-up suddenly. Among them, "the commentariat," who seem to have started this nonsense, and "martial" vocabulary, including such suddenly charged terms as "target," and "campaign."

Sarah's critics seem to want it both ways. She's too stupid for politics, yet she's smart enough to apply an arcane term to get a subliminal dig at a group who has done her no harm, and poses no threat.

Just because you had never heard of the term before and its anti-Semitic history, does not mean it did not exist before you heard it.. This is the Texas School Board all over again gezz.

Palin is a politician, and she or her handlers SHOULD have know the consequences of using this term. And if they did know, then it was a deliberate anti-Semitic attack period. If they did not know, then they made a serious mistake and should own up to it... but nooo, instead they act like it was everyone else that made an error and try to run from responsibility... yet again. What ever happened to the Conservative motto of people are responsible for their own actions?

But yet again, Conservatives like the communists and socialists of before 1991 and Muslims of today, flock together to defend her and try to divert attention away by either dismissing it off hand based on "I never heard about it" to out right attacking those that brought it up. Shame on you.

Yet again a conservative gets a "get out jail free card" by the right on the issue of anti-Semitism. But then again Conservatives seem to get that card constantly on so many issues when their own get caught up in controversy.
 
Just because you had never heard of the term before and its anti-Semitic history, does not mean it did not exist before you heard it.. This is the Texas School Board all over again gezz.

Palin is a politician, and she or her handlers SHOULD have know the consequences of using this term. And if they did know, then it was a deliberate anti-Semitic attack period. If they did not know, then they made a serious mistake and should own up to it... but nooo, instead they act like it was everyone else that made an error and try to run from responsibility... yet again. What ever happened to the Conservative motto of people are responsible for their own actions?

But yet again, Conservatives like the communists and socialists of before 1991 and Muslims of today, flock together to defend her and try to divert attention away by either dismissing it off hand based on "I never heard about it" to out right attacking those that brought it up. Shame on you.

Yet again a conservative gets a "get out jail free card" by the right on the issue of anti-Semitism. But then again Conservatives seem to get that card constantly on so many issues when their own get caught up in controversy.

It has already been shown in this thread that the term 'blood libel' has come to have a more general meaning in modern English usage than the original meaning from the Middle Ages. So, while the use of the term is unfortunate (note: I am no fan of Sarah Palin as I have noted on these boards on numerous occasions), the reference was not incorrect from a modern English usage standpoint.
 
It has already been shown in this thread that the term 'blood libel' has come to have a more general meaning in modern English usage than the original meaning from the Middle Ages. So, while the use of the term is unfortunate (note: I am no fan of Sarah Palin as I have noted on these boards on numerous occasions), the reference was not incorrect from a modern English usage standpoint.

The term may have its origins in the middle ages, but the original meaning still reverberates today. The reference was a dog-whistle call to her faithful.
 
The term may have its origins in the middle ages, but the original meaning still reverberates today. The reference was a dog-whistle call to her faithful.

Ahh, so in your opinion, a term's original meaning is still the proper one, no matter if it evolves into another common usage with a different definition ???
 
It has already been shown in this thread that the term 'blood libel' has come to have a more general meaning in modern English usage than the original meaning from the Middle Ages. So, while the use of the term is unfortunate (note: I am no fan of Sarah Palin as I have noted on these boards on numerous occasions), the reference was not incorrect from a modern English usage standpoint.

No, the only thing that has been shown is that the people who have never heard of the term now think they are experts in its usage and are defining it according to their political bias to mean whatever they want it to mean.
 
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