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Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

smartin said:
My point is that if it was me I would have quoted the whole thing from the start and I didn't, because I did not write this. But it is very insightful on the tactics the left uses.
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Ooo, look, this is from someone called "megan"

Just because the term has been used more widely, doesn't mean it should be. Just because it has been used more widely, doesn't mean that it isn't loaded with ugly history. it's not just that the blood libel was a false accusation - it's the things that were done to the Jewish population in its name. Google the Kielce pogrom for a fuller understanding of how the term isn't exactly archaic in Jewish history. To my mind - and I say this as a conservative, a Catholic, and a student of the Holocaust - there is no more willfully selfish term that Palin could have used.
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Are we even now?
 
Gill said:
Ahhh, so a liberal doesn't tell the truth when giving an interview to right wing media ??

or... maybe you thing big government.com fabricated the interview.

Any other explanation of your bizarre comment would make you look even more partisan.
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Who knows, they might have. I've certainly never heard of them. This professor was last known for his backing of OJ Simpson. I don't really care what his opinion is on anything.
 
Tucker Case said:
Even with real "witch hunts" there weren't any real witches involved. That's pretty much the way the this particular term is used nowadays. It describes situations where accusations of some made-up wrong doing are rendered towards people for any numebr of reasons (sometimes simply because the accuser didn't like the accused).
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Yes. So "Witch Hunt" (which is actually a similar idea to "Blood Libel" in some ways) is now often used as a metaphor to describe situations where people make irrational and false accusations to paint people they disagree with in a bad light, or destroy their reputation.

“The term “blood libel” has taken on a broad metaphorical meaning in public discourse. Although its historical origins were in theologically based false accusations against the Jews and the Jewish People,its current usage is far broader. I myself have used it to describe false accusations against the State of Israel by the Goldstone Report. There is nothing improper and certainly nothing anti-Semitic in Sarah Palin using the term to characterize what she reasonably believes are false accusations that her words or images may have caused a mentally disturbed individual to kill and maim. The fact that two of the victims are Jewish is utterly irrelevant to the propriety of using this widely used term.”
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Dershowitz, a Harvard prof (and jewish is he not?) goes one step further and blows all this nit picking out of the water.

As I said earlier. I am neither a fan, nor enemy of Palin. I am also a fairly moderate libertarian. My friends on the left who are singing with the current choir are really starting to look BAAAAAAAAAD to me in the aftermath of this event.
 
niftydrifty said:
Cool. we can all be certain that this won't be the last time Dershowitz has been wrong about anything, and it probably won't be the last time you make an appeal to authority.
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I wasn't making an appeal to authority I was just showing the statement he released.
 
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So Palin decides to release her comments on the same day that the President is making his speech in Tuscon.

The woman is shameless.
 
smartin said:
I wan't making an appeal to authority I was just showing the statement he released.
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I wasn't refuting your argument, I was hitting the "reply" button.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
Yes. So "Witch Hunt" (which is actually a similar idea to "Blood Libel" in some ways) is now often used as a metaphor to describe situations where people make irrational and false accusations to paint people they disagree with in a bad light, or destroy their reputation.



Dershowitz, a Harvard prof (and jewish is he not?) goes one step further and blows all this nit picking out of the water.

As I said earlier. I am neither a fan, nor enemy of Palin. I am also a fairly moderate libertarian. My friends on the left who are singing with the current choir are really starting to look BAAAAAAAAAD to me in the aftermath of this event.
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BUt... but... Sarah Palin said it... so it MUST be bad! That's what my liberal friends all tell me, anyway.
 
Kelzie said:
So what? I bet I can find a lot of people using it. Some right, some wrong.
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Sorry for trying to bring something to your attention. Won't happen again, promise.
 
Kelzie said:
Yes, as featured on an exclusive interview with biggoverment.com. Color me thoroughly impressed.
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I see, so it wasn't that he said what he said, but rather whom was conducting the interview....:roll: Got it....


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
I see, so it wasn't that he said what he said, but rather whom was conducting the interview....:roll: Got it....


j-mac
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Oh I also attacked his character somewhere. Might want to find that post too.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
Yes. So "Witch Hunt" (which is actually a similar idea to "Blood Libel" in some ways) is now often used as a metaphor to describe situations where people make irrational and false accusations to paint people they disagree with in a bad light, or destroy their reputation.
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Witch-hunts are more about false accusations in order to paint individuals in a bad light, and even destroy them.

Whereas blood libel is more about irrational jusitifications which are used for persecuting minority groups.

This situation is much closer to a witch hunt than blood libel.

Dershowitz, a Harvard prof (and jewish is he not?) goes one step further and blows all this nit picking out of the water.
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I have doubts regarding the veracity of that quote.

But even if I didn't have those doubts, having the term "sanctioned" by a Jewish guy from Harvard doesn't mean that the word is automatically accurate.

Palin and her colleagues are not being persecuted, no matter how much they want to be seen carrying crosses.

As I said earlier. I am neither a fan, nor enemy of Palin. I am also a fairly moderate libertarian. My friends on the left who are singing with the current choir are really starting to look BAAAAAAAAAD to me in the aftermath of this event.
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I'm an anti-federalist and I'm admittedly not a fan of Palin. Mostly don't care about her, but I do wish she'd stop talking nonsense.
 
haymarket said:
So Palin decides to release her comments on the same day that the President is making his speech in Tuscon.

The woman is shameless.
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Yes, she should busy herself with a shrine to 'The One'.....pfft.


j-mac
 
Probably not how I would have put it.....
 
Then again, how I would put it would be too academic for a good speech or press release. I prefer to rake the media over coals of footnotes.

I agree with Ex-Governor Palin about this whole mess.
 
Kelzie said:
What's absurd? To question the source or the person giving the comment? Both seem pretty valid to me.
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Your notions that you are some how smarter than a law prof on this, and that because the interview wasn't conducted by Salon it is somehow flawed.....Please continue, this is entertaining.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Your notions that you are some how smarter than a law prof on this, and that because the interview wasn't conducted by Salon it is somehow flawed.....Please continue, this is entertaining.


j-mac
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I'm probably smarter than a number of law professors. So are you for that matter. And some professors just deserve to have their opinions ignored. A certain Prof. Churchill comes to mind. Deciding to teach doesn't make your opinion automatically more valid than the next person. It's not like he was rendering a legal opinion, it was personal.

However, next time I post some evidence from theGOPsucks.com, I fully expect you to back me up on it.
 
Kelzie said:
I'm probably smarter than a number of law professors. So are you for that matter. And some professors just deserve to have their opinions ignored. A certain Prof. Churchill comes to mind.
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Hmmm, a certain law Prof. living in White House comes to my mind..........
 
Kelzie said:
I'm probably smarter than a number of law professors. So are you for that matter. And some professors just deserve to have their opinions ignored. A certain Prof. Churchill comes to mind. Deciding to teach doesn't make your opinion automatically more valid than the next person. It's not like he was rendering a legal opinion, it was personal.

However, next time I post some evidence from theGOPsucks.com, I fully expect you to back me up on it.
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If what you post isn't full of fallacies then I would. Source bashing is really a non intellectual way of obfuscating from the fact that you have lost the argument.

j-mac
 
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