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Hillary sparks a furor

oh lets make it about the Good Reverend again.... don't you have any other tactics other than your partisan hackery?

Sorry. I just had to point it out. Your outrage is not balanced, IMO. Of course the best defense is to call me a partisan hack. You go, Rev.

I actually agree with you that "furor" was silly and over the top, but your too busy giving me **** to have an intelligent conversation with me. I mean really, what have you said about hillary trying to link idealogical and action "extremism" with islamic extremism....

Since when is the term extremism limited to Islam??? That's where we differ. You see it that way, and I don't. Now I will say (once again) that her choice of word is not quite right, but for anyone to go into such a huff about it is downright feigning outrage to me. For the record, I feel the same about Palin's choice too. Bad choice of words but not a big whoop in the grand scheme of things.
 
Sorry. I just had to point it out. Your outrage is not balanced, IMO. Of course the best defense is to call me a partisan hack. You go, Rev.


you have no position to talk about balance. But keep on trucking.... :thumbs:


You call me a partisan almost daily, even though I, unlike you critisize both sides.... you get what you give with me, you know that.





Since when is the term extremism limited to Islam??? That's where we differ. You see it that way, and I don't. Now I will say (once again) that her choice of word is not quite right, but for anyone to go into such a huff about it is downright feigining outrage to me. For the record, I feel the same about Palin's choice too. Bad choice of words but not a big whoop in the grand scheme of things.


1. show me where I limiited the term to islam. I was pointing out hillary's context. learn the difference.

2. This is a debate site. if you don't care for the topic, here is a clue oso, don't post in the thread. Attacking me and calling me a partisan, then me coming back and embarrassing you with your own words, and my posts is getting old. I love ya girl, but please open your mind and drop your bias.



You realize you are the biggest projector I have ever met... All this crap you accuse me of almost daily now, is EXACTLY how you are. Hillary's words were "not quite right"...didn't you accuse me of sugar coating my critisizm of palin a few posts back? :lamo
 
You realize you are the biggest projector I have ever met... All this crap you accuse me of almost daily now, is EXACTLY how you are. Hillary's words were "not quite right"...didn't you accuse me of sugar coating my critisizm of palin a few posts back? :lamo

I'll just point out one of your gradiose exaggerations because frankly, it's a big waste of time. I think you're partisan. You think I'm partisan. Okey dokey smokie, let's keep it at that shall we?

I said this about Sarah's choice of words:

For the record, I feel the same about Palin's choice too. Bad choice of words but not a big whoop in the grand scheme of things.

So are you going to now accuse me of being a biased conservative? :doh
 
I'll just point out one of your gradiose exaggerations because frankly, it's a big waste of time. I think you're partisan. You think I'm partisan. Okey dokey smokie, let's keep it at that shall we?

I said this about Sarah's choice of words:



So are you going to now accuse me of being a biased conservative? :doh




look, you came after me. Don't cry when I respond destroying your attacks on me..... :shrug:


When I said something about palin, you said it wasn't enough, shall I find that post and embarrass you once again?




Oh wait here it is...


Yes. It's over the top. Reading it alone, you'd think think that Hillary said something outrageous like she was glad Giffords was shot. Then, when reading the story, one can't help but feel it's not a big deal. The Huffington Post is king at doing this, BTW.

Funny how Sarah seems to get much less scorn from her faux-pas from you. Why is tha
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So am I held to higher standards than you hold yourself? Interesting. :ssst:
 
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Perhaps they feel he is an extremist because he shot and killed a 9-year-old little girl.

Who knows what goes on in the minds of these opportunistic political hacks?

I think he must have been there to kill some politicians, and a little girl happen to be in the line of fire. Do you think he came for the little girl? He is a nut, I don't know maybe he did.
 
I don't exactly agree with Hillary's comparison. But Loughner truly was an extremist. He was on a grammar / gold standard crusade and had an agenda, and apparently targeted Giffords because of it.

Extremism is any ideology or political act far outside the perceived political center of a society

In actual fact, Loughner was more extreme than most extremists are.

That is true but if he is indeed a schizophrenic that is part of the condition. Schizo's have extreme paranoia and usually hear voices, think the government is spying on them, irrationally percieve certain individuals as threats, etc., If proven this would be completely different from the extremists to which Hilary is comparing him. It is also ridiculous to compare and individual like this guy to pervasive group extremism displayed by some Muslim organizations like the Taliban.
 
That is true but if he is indeed a schizophrenic that is part of the condition. Schizo's have extreme paranoia and usually hear voices, think the government is spying on them, irrationally percieve certain individuals as threats, etc., If proven this would be completely different from the extremists to which Hilary is comparing him. It is also ridiculous to compare and individual like this guy to pervasive group extremism displayed by some Muslim organizations like the Taliban.

It seems too many politicians want to attract attention to themselves by giving their statements to the media before all the facts are in, and thus put themselves in danger of appearing reckless and impulsive. Such is this case with Hillary.

She, as the Secretary of State, should have waited and said something more dignified, as Obama did when he first heard the news.

Using a domestic tragedy to make a foreign policy comparison was foolish, and whoever advised her to make such a statement was foolish as well, This destroys any ideas she might have had for the presidency.
 
So let me see if I understand this thinking here....


ft. hood shooter, not an extremist
dc snipers, not extremist...


schizophrenic nut bag? Extremist...



Can someone explain this logic to me here? :lamo

A few serious reasons I can't think of to explain this logic are #1. it's woman and logic almost never enters into it. #2. She's a wild eyed Liberal. Finally nothing the Democrats have done since they took over control makes any sense at all.

I'm just happy that the Lefties have finally let President Bush slide on this one, I thought for sure they would have found a way to blame him for this.

In a way extreme does come into the picture as the AZ. shooter is extremely mentally ill, but they always leave that out of the partisan attacks.
 
A few serious reasons I can't think of to explain this logic are #1. it's woman and logic almost never enters into it. #2. She's a wild eyed Liberal. Finally nothing the Democrats have done since they took over control makes any sense at all.

I'm just happy that the Lefties have finally let President Bush slide on this one, I thought for sure they would have found a way to blame him for this.

In a way extreme does come into the picture as the AZ. shooter is extremely mentally ill, but they always leave that out of the partisan attacks.

the number of levels of irony in that post are astounding
 
BTW, is her use of extremist rhetoric to basically lie about folks, could it be considered "violent rhetoric"?


Is this the sort of rhetoric, that we should be engaging in, linking the actions of a madman to phatom "extremists"?
 
So let me see if I understand this thinking here....


ft. hood shooter, not an extremist
dc snipers, not extremist...


schizophrenic nut bag? Extremist...



Can someone explain this logic to me here? :lamo

1. The thread title had me believe Hillary was hanging up her SOS gig and her very public sideline job at the Gerald Ford/Chevy Chase School of Falling Down Drunk before she ended up in a body cast. You know, get a little R&R with Billy Bob on the beach before...

2. Resuming her Gerald Ford imitation and making a run at The Obalmer.

I wonder, will SNL start a routine called This Week With Hillary where she's continually falling down like a drunk. Ford got his SNL fame... and he never broke a bone in the process. Hillary, she's in a class of her own.

As for explaining the logic behind this "extremist" "not extremist" nonsense... well... this comes directly from the horse's ass...

Billy Bob was explaining it depends on what the definition of extremist is. Those from Extremistan are not as extreme as those who are extreme and not from Extremistan, or something of the sortie. It gets complicated when you have Extremistan supporters in military uniforms, for they are not from Extremistan, and are sleeping with the enemy, yet possess all the traits of the natives of Extremistan. But when they shout Allah Akbar, wear a military uniform to commit their heinous acts, Extremistan points are deducted. It's strange, but Billy Bob tells me them's the rules.

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