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Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

Chappy said:
Source? Or is this just a totally bogus number. Thanks in advance.
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You should look up the religion of peace while you're at it. :lol:
 
Degreez said:
WTF????

So the entire population of places like Saudi Arabia count towards your mythical Muslim extremist figure? Do I really need to point out how asinine that reasoning is? Most credible sources put Muslim extremists at less than a 0.01 PERCENT of the entire Muslim population (1.5 billion people).

Your figure is just ridiculous and cannot be taken to hold any truth.
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And, the other 99.9 percent can't do a damn thing to stamp the jihadis out of exitence? Sump'n very wrong with that picture.

Sure as hell wernt no shortage of Muslims taking to the streets to protest the Mohammed cartoons.
 
VanceMack said:
Hundreds...occuring at least daily around the globe...my bad...incorrect grammar...but not incorrect intent. There have been more than just 'hundreds' of attacks. They do indeed occur daily.

(And thats not including the ones they stop)
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There aren't hundreds of attacks daily. Annually, perhaps. But that's still only several hundred perpetrators a year. That's a long ways from a billion people.
 
Muslims who have succeeded in mass murder for Islam.
Muslims who have attempted mass murder, but failed.
Muslims who were caught before they could mass murder.
Muslims who wouldn't mass murder, themselves, but support those who do.
Muslims who don't support the mass murder, but support the same totalitarian objectives.
Muslims who share the same general attitudes towards Islam, but are willing to allow others to not follow Islam.
Muslims who subscribe to some tenets of Islam, but not others.
Muslims who are nominal Muslims and whose value systems are more secular in nature.

the problem here is that the dedicated apologists only consider a very few to be "extremists", since they define extremism in such an extremely limited way, few fall under their designation. On the other hand, those who fail to distinguish between various Muslims tend to lump them all together. Both approaches miss the mark, because the former refuses to acknowledge the number of Muslims who share the same objective and the latter group fails to acknowledge the number of Muslims who don't.


As far as backing up anything people say, I'd suggest Pew reports. They have conducted any number of opinion polls in all sorts of Muslim countries including western European Muslim populations. Instead of shooting from the hip by either minimizing or maximizing, I think people should pay attention to them and acknowledge what they actually reveal.
 
BAh...no worries...its not ALL of them...just some of them...like...maybe 1/5th of a billion or so people...if that...so...not like its a huge deal...
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200M people isn’t that many???

Source? Or is this just a totally bogus number.
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There are about 1.7 billion muslims world wide, according to a couple of searches of the internet which kicks the number of killers up to 340 million.

Read this and you will see that there are many more than 1/5th of the muslim population that supports the killing of infidels and using violence to get what they want and what they want Chappy, is to remove the liberal immorality that is pervasive in San Francisco.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=107&type=issue

Satloff shows how, through fraudulent definition of the word "radical," the authors make it appear that a multi-year study of Muslim opinion worldwide showed that only seven percent of Muslims are radical, when, in reality, by any fair reading of the authors' own polling data, the correct number is 37 percent. How many radical Muslims are there in the world?
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37% would mean that we have 629M crazy killers to deal with. About two for ever man woman and child in the USA.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
And, to put it into perspective...a ven diagram.

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If that green circle were a fly's ass, that little speck would be ****. And what do we do with ****?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
There aren't hundreds of attacks daily. Annually, perhaps. But that's still only several hundred perpetrators a year. That's a long ways from a billion people.
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Grrr...apparently my grammar is still failing me...I AGREE...not hundreds per day...annually...yes. And Im not asserting a billion...but with a billion muslims I think its a wee understatement that there ore 'only' 10,000. And frankly...Im tired of every day reading about some new plot or some new asshole getting caught or some terror act and then surprise!!!! oh...look...its another ****ing extremist muslim...you know...one of the 'few'...
 
Whenever you need to check. (not including arrests, just 'successful' attacks)

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

2010.12.28 (Pattani, Thailand) - A Buddhist man and his wife are machine-gunned by Islamic terrorists in front of their home.
2010.12.28 (Pattani, Thailand) - Muslims shoot a Buddhist civilian to death as he is riding his motorcycle.
2010.12.28 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - A man and his elderly father are murdered by Islamic gunmen.
2010.12.27 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A young girl is among three people shot to death in separate sectarian attacks.
2010.12.27 (Dujail, Iraq) - Jihadi bombers take down a Catholic woman and injure a family member.
2010.12.27 (Ramadi, Iraq) - Twin suicide bombers take down 17 Iraqis, including women and children waiting in line.


Weekly Jihad Report
Dec. 11 - Dec. 17

Jihad Attacks: 32
Dead Bodies: 162
Critically Injured: 347


Monthly Jihad Report
November, 2010

Jihad Attacks: 144
Countries: 15
Religions: 5
Dead Bodies: 609
Critically Injured: 1252
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As for people Lumping "Terrorist" and "extremist" as if they were one.
I answered it [again] just days ago:
(and see Gardener's post above for the categories of extremists who aren't terrorists)

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/87827-terror-uks-new-christmas-export-15.html#post1059171018

mbig said:
Mr Invisible said:
Have you ever gone and looked at a single scientifiically conducted opinion poll to see that most Muslims do not support terrorism/extremism?
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"Most", what is most?

and what is "terrorism/extremism"?

They are not the same. And There are far too many Muslims who merely support just terrorism. Not near a majority, but say 5-10% of 1.5 Billion is Alot.

and if you mean by "extremism".. Literalism (as it is used on/Against the Christian Right), then I would venture MOST Muslims are 'extremists.'

We must be fair with these terms.
Of course virtually no one is.

see, ie,
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...mosexuality-0-fer-500-a-3.html#post1058436276

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...mosexuality-0-fer-500-a-4.html#post1058437965

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...mosexuality-0-fer-500-a-4.html#post1058440714
which includes:

Pete EU said:
But let me ask you this. Will you condemn the radical religious right wing in the US for exactly the same thing as this thread was originally started out for?
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me said:
ABSOLUTELY I do! That's always MY point tho.
But let's not include, or include for ALL 'Radical' for all literalists.

It's ME who's asking for fairness of usage of the word "Fundamentalist" as we apply it to Christian Literalists/Christian Right. And by all means let's include Orthodox/Ultra-Orthodox Jews for good measure.

Yes, I INSIST we start using the term 'Fundamentalist' (as we do for the Christian/Falwell/Robertson 'Right') for ALL Literalists.
Which would Include the MAJORITY of Muslims! OUCH.
Yes, THAT IS my point you've naively suggested, and Manji, (and Hamid) YOU ignored.

Let's see if You and others can be consistent and NOT Cultural Relativist and apply this term fairly.
(and Gut a Dishonest PC Mainstay of Mocking Robertson while condoning the same and even less tolerant ideals regulary voiced by Muslims. Like This VERY string Topic's Stats. Hello!)
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apdst said:
And, the other 99.9 percent can't do a damn thing to stamp the jihadis out of exitence? Sump'n very wrong with that picture.

Sure as hell wernt no shortage of Muslims taking to the streets to protest the Mohammed cartoons.
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Imagine if 0.01% of the Christians did this. You can bet there'd be an end to it.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
And, to put it into perspective...a ven diagram.

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What the hell does this prove? Why are you comparing the American population to muslims?

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You see that thin blue sliver called Judaism? The thin blue sliver has been kicking the thick red sliver's ass for years.
 
American said:
What the hell does this prove? Why are you comparing the American population to muslims?

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You see that thin blue sliver called Judaism? The thin blue sliver has been kicking the thick red sliver's ass for years.
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That's true, and the Jews have done it with hard work, education, family values, and intelligence.

Now the Muslims are striking back with intimidation, maintaining deliberate ignorance of its followers, and terrorism.

http://europenews.dk/files/Shariah - The Threat to America (Team B Report) 09142010.pdf
 
Gardener said:
Muslims who have succeeded in mass murder for Islam.
Muslims who have attempted mass murder, but failed.
Muslims who were caught before they could mass murder.
Muslims who wouldn't mass murder, themselves, but support those who do.
Muslims who don't support the mass murder, but support the same totalitarian objectives.
Muslims who share the same general attitudes towards Islam, but are willing to allow others to not follow Islam.
Muslims who subscribe to some tenets of Islam, but not others.
Muslims who are nominal Muslims and whose value systems are more secular in nature.

the problem here is that the dedicated apologists only consider a very few to be "extremists", since they define extremism in such an extremely limited way, few fall under their designation. On the other hand, those who fail to distinguish between various Muslims tend to lump them all together. Both approaches miss the mark, because the former refuses to acknowledge the number of Muslims who share the same objective and the latter group fails to acknowledge the number of Muslims who don't.


As far as backing up anything people say, I'd suggest Pew reports. They have conducted any number of opinion polls in all sorts of Muslim countries including western European Muslim populations. Instead of shooting from the hip by either minimizing or maximizing, I think people should pay attention to them and acknowledge what they actually reveal.
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In this entire post, you could replace "Muslim" with any of the following and still be accurate:
White
Black
Asian
Christian
Jewish
Male
Female
Bus Driver
Team Edward
Eunich
Homosexual
Heterosexual
Green Bay Packers Fan actually these guys are pure evil and the whole world knows it.
etc
 
apdst said:
And, the other 99.9 percent can't do a damn thing to stamp the jihadis out of exitence? Sump'n very wrong with that picture.

Sure as hell wernt no shortage of Muslims taking to the streets to protest the Mohammed cartoons.
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It's their responsibility? Countries where Islamic extremism exists already has the government battling militants. Do you want the citizens to start taking arms and leaving their families to appease your ridiculous mentality? Why are you wasting time posting here when you can be out fighting Islamic fundamentalists like you think the rest of the Muslim world should be doing? Kind of makes you a hypocrite. And what you still fail to realize is the main victims of Muslim extremism are Muslims.

If there's an abortion clinic bombing in the US, should I then take your logic and wonder why every other Christian in the world is not trying to stop Christian fundamentalists? I'm sorry, but reality is not that ridiculous.
 
VanceMack said:
;)

neener!

I dont know the exact number. I really dont. I think people are foolish if they think they do. I think its a HELL of a lot more than 10,000...and a hell of a lot less than a billion. I do know that those extremist bastards seem to keep popping up everywhere.
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Yeah, well the number you asserted was more than 300,000,000 Muslim extremists. This is a figure that has not been given by any reputable or credible institute. The number you gave is almost four times as many deaths from World War I and World War II combined.

If you're just gonna make ridiculous claims without backing them up, then no one here is going to take those absurd assertions seriously. Why should they? You are showing you aren't interested in discussion.
 
Deuce said:
In this entire post, you could replace "Muslim" with any of the following and still be accurate:
White
Black
Asian
Christian
Jewish
Male
Female
Bus Driver
Team Edward
Eunich
Homosexual
Heterosexual
Green Bay Packers Fan actually these guys are pure evil and the whole world knows it.
etc
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And like extremist Muslims, you read about every one of those groups slaughtering men, women and children on an almost daily basis.

No...wait...you dont...

well...except maybe Team Edward...
 
Degreez said:
Yeah, well the number you asserted was more than 300,000,000 Muslim extremists. This is a figure that has not been given by any reputable or credible institute. The number you gave is almost four times as many deaths from World War I and World War II combined.

If you're just gonna make ridiculous claims without backing them up, then no one here is going to take those absurd assertions seriously. Why should they? You are showing you aren't interested in discussion.
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You know...Im not. Im not interested in a 'discussion' with people so invested in a fairy tale ideology and defense that they completely ignore reality. I dont care if the 'exact' number is 300 k or 300 m....the fact remains we seem to never run out of those disgusting vile assholes, and the extremist version of your fairy tale religion just keeps breeding them like ****ing rats.
 
VanceMack said:
You know...Im not. Im not interested in a 'discussion' with people so invested in a fairy tale ideology and defense that they completely ignore reality. I dont care if the 'exact' number is 300 k or 300 m....the fact remains we seem to never run out of those disgusting vile assholes, and the extremist version of your fairy tale religion just keeps breeding them like ****ing rats.
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Thanks for admitting you're not interested in a legitimate discussion and are only here to troll with ridiculous, unsubstantiated posts. If you don't care what the approximate number of Muslim extremists are, then don't give an estimation? It's fairly simply. Or is making asinine posts a habitual urge for you that you cannot stop yourself from displaying your foolishness?

"The percentage of priests who molest little boys is 1/5. I don't care what the exact number is though, so don't bother verifying that are accepting what I just said." :roll:
 
Degreez said:
Thanks for admitting you're not interested in a legitimate discussion and are only here to troll with ridiculous, unsubstantiated posts. If you don't care what the approximate number of Muslim extremists are, then don't give an estimation? It's fairly simply. Or is making asinine posts a habitual urge for you that you cannot stop yourself from displaying your foolishness?

"The percentage of priests who molest little boys is 1/5. I don't care what the exact number is though, so don't bother verifying that are accepting what I just said." :roll:
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Heres a reality for you...out there in the world, right now, there are muslims jerking off to their wet dreams of fantasy virgins earned by killing as many people as they can over a ****ing CARTOON. Tomorrow, there will be muslims that target innocent women and children in their twisted dreams of glory.

Sweet dreams...and SWELL with pride.
 
VanceMack said:
Heres a reality for you...out there in the world, right now, there are muslims jerking off to their wet dreams of fantasy virgins earned by killing as many people as they can over a ****ing CARTOON. Tomorrow, there will be muslims that target innocent women and children in their twisted dreams of glory.

Sweet dreams...and SWELL with pride.
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Here's another reality for you... out there in YOUR OWN CITIES, there are Christians waiting to blow up an abortion clinic because some people are not ready to have and support a baby. Tomorrow, they do no care who they kill, as long as those who assist in abortions are no longer living.

Sweet dreams naive child.
 
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