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N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

CaptainCourtesy said:
Oh, stop. Christie being in the state would have no mattered one bit. Whatever he did or didn't do, we in NJ handled things fine. Roads are clear, and they are carting away the snow in dump trucks so we can park on the streets again. The roads were good enough on Monday that I made it into work with no problem; Tuesdsay, not only did EVERYONE make it into work, but all of our clients made it to the office, too.

Complaining that Christie wasn't in the state is not only irrelevant, but DOES show that you are posting like a hack. Stop doing it. You are embarssing other liberals.
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Look at NYC with Bloomberg in-state, though he got screwed by his own dept.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
like what of his policies? You haven't contributed one intellectual thought in this thread. You cry about a blizzard, and then try to infer that folks who disagree with obama are hate numerous things yet you won't articulate.


I think this thread is a bit much for you.
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You ask me questions. Then you do not like the answers. get a life. Or better yet, get somebody who has not seen your comedy act over and over again who will bite at the bait.
 
haymarket said:
You ask me questions. Then you do not like the answers. get a life. Or better yet, get somebody who has not seen your comedy act over and over again who will bite at the bait.
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All I am asking for is for you to articulate your opinion. why you feel the need to personally attack me for asking you what you mean by your own words is not baiting. You made a claim. let's see the backup. :shrug:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
All I am asking for is for you to articulate your opinion. why you feel the need to personally attack me for asking you what you mean by your own words is not baiting. You made a claim. let's see the backup. :shrug:
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Don't hold your breath.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
All I am asking for is for you to articulate your opinion. why you feel the need to personally attack me for asking you what you mean by your own words is not baiting. You made a claim. let's see the backup. :shrug:
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This is at least the third time today that you are trying to bait me. Go trolling elsewhere please because its not going to work.

If you want to start a thread about the dangerous and extremist policies of Christie and how is the water carrier for idiots like Grover Norquist, I will be happy to participate. You can count on it.
 
haymarket said:
This is at least the third time today that you are trying to bait me. Go trolling elsewhere please because its not going to work.

If you want to start a thread about the dangerous and extremist policies of Christie and how is the water carrier for idiots like Grover Norquist, I will be happy to participate. You can count on it.
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Please report me if you think I am breaking any rules. Thank you.

You made a claim, and then refused to quantify it. Fact is, NJ handled the blizzard fine. Christie, did nothing wrong, and is getting far more attention from folks like you than the mayor across the river.

You opened the door, now you want to close it? not how it works son.
 
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Haymarket, Rev, knock it off. Stick to the topic.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It doesn't it's his way of not having to back up his asinine claims, his partisan hackery is in full plumage in this thread. :lol:
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Like this?

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haymarket said:
Not anything legitimate.

Would his policies be legitimate?

Would his proposals for the state be legitimate?

Would his advocacy for irresponsibility be legitimate?

Would his fronting for dangerous radicals be legitimate?



I have never met Christie. It is his beliefs, his actions and his governmental policies that I detest.
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Please tell us how this has anything to do with the issue from the OP.
 
ask the rev - he asked me a question and I answered it.
 
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I just love love love the obvious partisan hypocrisy hackery here.

Back in May, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon on a business trip participating in activities that included white-water rafting. He knew about the spill just before leaving, and still went (EXACTLY like Christie). Yet some who are defending Christie in this thread had no problems bashing Strickland for doing the exact same thing. Shame shame shame. Hilarous that these same posters were accusing ME of being a partisan hack. *facepalm*

He are some of the gems from the Strickland thread:

Reverend Hellhound:
Uhm, if he is not needed to be there during this disaster, why do we need him at all?
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I don't get why you seem to be defending this dept and its chief. I find thier behavior starteling to say the least...
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It's abhorrent for this guy to leave on a rafting trip 3 days AFTER the spill on a supposed dept trip on my dime.
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Uhm, I'm shocked that's what you compare this too.... Come now drop your partisanism. the dood screwed the pooch.
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Ockham:

Planned trip of no significant importance... or postpone and attend to a growing national oil spill disaster off the Louisiana coast. Yeah... the planned BS trip to the Grand Canyon seems MUCH more important. I mean, all those filght changes and what not... what a hassle right?
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It's not partisan at all --- it's common sense as I already stated. Let me make it simpler to understand: If your house is being flooded with water because your pipes burst, you don't still take the day long ride in the country because it was "planned". Get it yet?
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Well, that's because you care. If you really didn't give a **** one way or the other you might still go. And I think that's exactly what happened here... he and his Dept. and the WH didn't give a **** until they saw it was going to be big time PR... which is why the WH put out the "we were there from day 1" propaganda that Salazar and Napolitano spun over a dozen times in one day which was and is a lie.

I believe you would fix it or not go. That's not how our Government operates no matter how much some in this thread try to polish that turd.
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Hardly. When the propoganda from the White House comes out saying the Government was there from day one, at least twelve times in one day... it's not partisan calling a bald faced lie what it is - a bald faced lie.

Perhaps you're not upset because of you and middleground and those who share your opinion on this issue, are to partisan FOR the White House and this President and would, if this were reversed and Bush were in the White House, would be all over this but since it's Obama, free passes abound.

See an unpartisan view would see Katrina as a consummate failure AND they would see this oil spill disaster and the Dept. of Interiors exemption of safety protocols as well as this badly scheduled trip for what it is... a consummate failure...

You're weak claim and middlegrounds weak claim of partisanship is simple in it's purpose... denial, deferral and misdirection. Simple political hack measures to put those critics on the defensive my levying unfounded claims and BS to muddy the water. I call BS... call it what it is. If you were a critic of the government handling of Katrina you should be a critic of the handling of the Gulf oil spill AND the Tennesee flooding.

When folks aren't being honest with themselves or others --- it's so obvious.
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Gill:
NO, I wouldn't. I would repair it BEFORE I left or I wouldn't go.
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apdst:
I'm going to kill the water at the meter, open the garden hose to relieve the pressure from the system and haul ass on vacation and deal with it when I get home....:rofl
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Here's the thread, read for yourself:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...epartment-chief-staff-rafted-wife-work-8.html
 
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Middleground said:
I just love love love the obvious partisan hypocrisy hackery here.

Back in May, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon on a business trip participating in activities that included white-water rafting. He knew about the spill just before leaving, and still went (EXACTLY like Christie). Yet some who are defending Christie in this thread had no problems bashing Strickland for doing the exact same thing. Shame shame shame. Hilarous that these same posters were accusing ME of being a partisan hack. *facepalm*

He are some of the gems from the Strickland thread:

Reverend Hellhound:








Ockham:









Gill:


apdst:


Here's the thread, read for yourself:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...epartment-chief-staff-rafted-wife-work-8.html
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yes, the partisan hackery.... you comparing a massive oil spill to a typical nor'easter...... yes thanks for that demonstration......



note.... nagin ****ed up... i pointed it out.... note..... christie didn't need to be here.... consistancy...... :failpail:
 
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Iron River said:
I agree that Christie should have arranged for a couple a parachutes so that he could sky dive back into the governor’s residence where he would be trapped there instead of in Florida. I guess he could have gotten closer by plane and then hiked into NJ on some industrial snow shoes??

People dying in several states but I hear no calls for Berry to rick his life to get back to the White House.
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Or perhaps returning to the state BEFORE the storm hit???
 
This guy is a duchbag. He ordered the diversion of local snow clearing machines to clear state roads and then blame the mayors for not doing their jobs.. hope he gets booted out at the next election or is impeached for incompetence.

Gov. Christie praises his administration for work done after blizzard, chastises mayors for local efforts | NJ.com

Got to love these quotes.

When asked about the hundreds of people trapped in their homes for days, Christie said unless they lived on state roads, it's not something his administration would have been able to change.
"If someone is snowed into their house, that's not our responsibility," Christie said.
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Ahh the compassion... In other words people in New Jersey... you are on your own.. fat Christie cant be bothered in helping you..

When asked about mayors who said they were forced to divert their resources to unplowed state roads instead of clearing local roads Christie said, "I know who these mayors are and they should buck up and take responsibility for the fact that they didn't do their job."
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Funny how he does not answer the question but instead attacks the mayors.. a classic sign that he has something to hide which most likely means the Mayors are right. If the State did force local resources to clear state roads, does that not mean dear Mr. Christie that YOU were not prepared enough for the storm? The state should have the machinery and man power (not to mention money) to be able to clear the state roads, and not have to rely on local governments to plug the gaps. Local governments will have a hard time as it is..

"I wouldn't change the decision even if I could do it right now," Christie said. "I had a great five days with my children. I promised that."
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So he is a father first then a top elected official. Seriously, if you had pulled this stunt in the private sector you would have been fired on the spot for incompetence.

Hey Christie.. ever heard of letting your family go on vacation and you staying behind?

Christie confirmed reports that Lt. Gov. Guadagno was out of the state because she was vacationing with her ailing father.
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So in other words.. you KNEW the storm was coming, and you KNEW that your deputy was out of state due to personal reasons, and yet you STILL went ahead and abandoned your state leaving it leaderless during one of the worst storms in history... and now you are blaming everyone else but yourself for the failures of your administration... now that is a typical right wing republican shmuck
 
pete you are either purposefully ignorant, or lying....


Do you know how it works here in NJ? I've already laid it out in a previous post, why don't you read it so you don't look so foolish.
 
ludahai said:
Or perhaps returning to the state BEFORE the storm hit???
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up until about 6 hours before the storm hit, it wasn't supposed to be that big, and even after it hit, it was just a freaking snow storm, we get them in the winter. /facepalm
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
pete you are either purposefully ignorant, or lying....


Do you know how it works here in NJ? I've already laid it out in a previous post, why don't you read it so you don't look so foolish.
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Only foolish one is your, for defending yet again a Republican that screwed up.
 
PeteEU said:
Only foolish one is your, for defending yet again a Republican that screwed up.
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it was a snowstorm dude, we get them every year. they happen. the streets were plowed as always nothing changed or was different than any other snowstorm.... i mean it wasn't like a french heat wave where 30k people die because europe is basically a third world nation. :shrug:


The partisan hackery by some here on the left has reached a new low. congrats d00d.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
it was a snowstorm dude, we get them every year. they happen. the streets were plowed as always nothing changed or was different than any other snowstorm.... i mean it wasn't like a french heat wave where 30k people die because europe is basically a third world nation. :shrug:


The partisan hackery by some here on the left has reached a new low. congrats d00d.
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Perhaps some are attempting to reach the same depths that some on the right have sunk to regarding our President.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
it was a snowstorm dude, we get them every year. they happen. the streets were plowed as always nothing changed or was different than any other snowstorm.... i mean it wasn't like a french heat wave where 30k people die because europe is basically a third world nation. :shrug:


The partisan hackery by some here on the left has reached a new low. congrats d00d.
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Now you are baiting.

For one it was not just "another snow storm". It was predicted to be a bad one, and he knew when it would hit. You may get them ever year, but they are not as bad as this one was and he knew it. He dropped the ball, just as Bush did on Katrina and just as Obama in part did on the BP spill (although this one he could not have predicted).

Secondly it was not 30 k people but more like 15k and the heat wave was insane out of the normal, just like the snow storm. France like most European countries do not have air conditions in every home because in 99% of the time it is not needed. Not to mention the waste of money it would be. Like it or not, the heat in France rarely gets over 32 degrees C for more than a few days a year even in the south of the country. So if you expect such a nation to have every home outfitted with air con just in case that the heat wave of the century hits.. then you are at best naive or at worst another partisan anti-French American.

So which is it.. are you naive or another partisan anti-French American?
 
from the Rev who seems agitated today

The partisan hackery by some here on the left has reached a new low.
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YOU introduced this into the thread for heavens sake. Don't you even remember what you write from one minute until the next?
 
PeteEU said:
Now you are baiting.
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Report me then....


why are you silent about nyc?


For one it was not just "another snow storm". It was predicted to be a bad one, and he knew when it would hit.
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This is a lie. I live here in NJ. it was predicted to skirt the coast until 6 hours before it hit. feel free to prove me other wise with links or another poster here from jersey who disagrees.... try CC.


Office of the New Jersey State Climatologist


almost every year d00d...... we get a storm like this. /facepalm


You may get them ever year, but they are not as bad as this one was and he knew it. He dropped the ball, just as Bush did on Katrina and just as Obama in part did on the BP spill (although this one he could not have predicted).
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so you are comparing 24" of snow, to a hurricane, levee break and a huge oil spill?


Seriously? :lamo





Secondly it was not 30 k people but more like 15k and the heat wave was insane out of the normal, just like the snow storm. France like most European countries do not have air conditions in every home because in 99% of the time it is not needed. Not to mention the waste of money it would be. Like it or not, the heat in France rarely gets over 32 degrees C for more than a few days a year even in the south of the country. So if you expect such a nation to have every home outfitted with air con just in case that the heat wave of the century hits.. then you are at best naive or at worst another partisan anti-French American.

So which is it.. are you naive or another partisan anti-French American?
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Plan B Updates - 29: Record Heat Wave in Europe Takes 35,000 Lives - Far Greater Losses May Lie Ahead | EPI


"A record heat wave scorched Europe in August 2003, claiming an estimated 35,000 lives. In France alone"



I have proven you wrong on both accounts.
 
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