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Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

Catawba said:
My hybrid gets better mileage than your Harley and it was designed to burn ethynol (but I'm sure the oil companies appreciate the extra you chip in at the pump), and my energy bills for heating and cooling my passive solar house is about 40% of the costs for a conventional home.
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So your car gets 40 miles to the gallon? You trhink ethanol does not hurt an engine? You may get surprised one day. So you have spent much money to get your house that way?

Your choice I will not fall for the hysteria and doom and gloom people like you spew
 
Catawba said:
LOL! I would love to take credit for coining that term, but alas, it has been a well known voting demograpic in the South for years:

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So no democrats live in trailer parks? Does that make the democrats the rich the government protects?
 
Catawba said:
I speak the truth without pulling punches if that is what you mean. Do you mean he has the freedom to get poorer while those he votes for get richer? If he had the opportunity to make more in the free market he wouldn't be a trailer park republican now would he?
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You don't speak truth you speak left wing talking points
 
Catawba said:
If he were voting for the working class, he wouldn't be voting republican who just increase his taxes to provide tax cuts to the rich. They let their fears about guns, gays, god and terrorists overide their economic interest.

That is what makes a trailer park republican so ironic, and so funny!
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It is Obama talking about tax increases not the GOP. More left wing talking points
 
ptif219 said:
So no democrats live in trailer parks? Does that make the democrats the rich the government protects?
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No they dont


Trailer parks tend to be rural which are heavily republican areas, democratic poor live in the inner cities
 
Catawba said:
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Peak oil is a bitch isn't it? Too bad we didn't follow Carter's energy plan, huh? :sun
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Yes Obama could loosen controls on refineries. That does not mean he put the rules in place. The second was in response to you. Of course you blew it off because you had no answer for it
 
Catawba said:
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Peak oil is a bitch isn't it? Too bad we didn't follow Carter's energy plan, huh? :sun
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Nah we're good, they're starting to excavate the oil sands in the north western U.S.
Supposed to be the 2nd biggest reserve of oil in the world, if I remember correctly.
 
ptif219 said:
So your car gets 40 miles to the gallon?
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Our current 5 passenger hybrid has averaged 43.5 mpg during the 100,000 miles we have put on it. Our previous 2 passenger hybrid averaged 65 mpg.

You trhink ethanol does not hurt an engine? You may get surprised one day.
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It was designed to burn 10% ethanol so that it will not hurt the engine. So was your Harley by the way. Harley Davidison advertizes that about their motorcycles. I've already shown this to you.

So you have spent much money to get your house that way?
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It cost me no more than conventional construction.


Your choice I will not fall for the hysteria and doom and gloom people like you spew
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Then stop whining about how much it is costing you!
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Nah we're good, they're starting to excavate the oil sands in the north western U.S.
Supposed to be the 2nd biggest reserve of oil in the world, if I remember correctly.
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Right................. now just solve the problem that it takes almost as much energy to extract and refine it as it produces and then supply enough of it to affordably meet our consuption needs domestically that has not been done since 1971.

No one, I repeat no one is expecting this to affect our hitting world peak oil in the next couple years. See the warning from the military regarding world peak oil. They say it could be as soon as 2015.
 
Catawba said:
Right................. now just solve the problem that it takes almost as much energy to extract and refine it as it produces and then supply enough of it to affordably meet our consuption needs domestically that has not been done since 1971.

No one, I repeat no one is expecting this to affect our hitting world peak oil in the next couple years. See the warning from the military regarding world peak oil. They say it could be as soon as 2015.
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If oil was that hard to come by, then the world market would being finding an alternative without government prompting.
They, by and large, aren't and it's not like one day they turn on the oil taps and it's all gone.

A gradual depletion will be noticed and the world will come up with something else, the fear mongering now is moronic.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
No they dont


Trailer parks tend to be rural which are heavily republican areas, democratic poor live in the inner cities
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I can't speak for the Northern states or Canada, but in the South, we have many rural poor that live in trailer parks. Both Democrat and Republican. It is the trailerpark Republican however that tends to vote against their own class interests.

The book, Deer Hunting with Jesus, describes the phenomenon perfectly!
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
If oil was that hard to come by, then the world market would being finding an alternative without government prompting.
They, by and large, aren't and it's not like one day they turn on the oil taps and it's all gone.

A gradual depletion will be noticed and the world will come up with something else, the fear mongering now is moronic.
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By what incentive does the market have to find a solution? The world market is making record profits from the fact that demand exeeds supply. The price will continue to go up as we get closer and closer to world peak oil. As long as we are stupid enough to keep paying their prices rather than developing alternatives, they are happy to keep taking our money. Hell, we even fight their wars to keep us dependent on them longer.

We have ignored that we passed peak oil in 1971 and we now whine like a child because of the bed we made for ourselves. Time to buck up my friend, its going to get alot bumpier when we go over the world peak in a couple more years. The US military did not issue a warning about world peak oil last year based on my assessment, now did they?
 
Catawba said:
By what incentive does the market have to find a solution? The world market is making record profits from the fact that demand exeeds supply. The price will continue to go up as we get closer and closer to world peak oil. As long as we are stupid enough to keep paying their prices rather than developing alternatives, they are happy to keep taking our money. Hell, we even fight their wars to keep us dependent on them longer.
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:lol:Good lord.

Lets see, if the businesses don't have anymore oil, then they go out of business.
Consumers don't want to dump a whole pay check into their gas tank, they'll create demand and the market will develop a supply.

Catawba said:
We have ignored that we passed peak oil in 1971 and we now whine like a child because of the bed we made for ourselves. Time to buck up my friend, its going to get alot bumpier when we go over the world peak in a couple more years. The US military did not issue a warning about world peak oil last year based on my assessment, now did they?
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You don't know this, it's only speculation.
That's what makes this whole argument retarded.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
:lol:Good lord.

Lets see, if the businesses don't have anymore oil, then they go out of business.
Consumers don't want to dump a whole pay check into their gas tank, they'll create demand and the market will develop a supply.
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Only for an ever increasing price. All the cheap sources of oil have already been drilled out. Have you not seen the warning from the Military?



You don't know this, it's only speculation.
That's what makes this whole argument retarded.
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It is a fact beyond doubt that we have not produced in this country as much oil as we consume since 1971. If you claim it is speculation, back it up if you can with documentation of any year in the last 4 decades when we have drilled more oil than we consumed.
 
Catawba said:
Our current 5 passenger hybrid has averaged 43.5 mpg during the 100,000 miles we have put on it. Our previous 2 passenger hybrid averaged 65 mpg.



It was designed to burn 10% ethanol so that it will not hurt the engine. So was your Harley by the way. Harley Davidison advertizes that about their motorcycles. I've already shown this to you.



It cost me no more than conventional construction.





Then stop whining about how much it is costing you!
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So if the vehicles you claim can burn 10% why does the government say not to use 15% in them. If 15% is bad so is 10%.

Nice spin but what you will find they will now want road use taxes because people use less gas. You are creating even more expense to people who are struggling now with finances. Of course you do not care if you produce a police state and more poverty
 
Catawba said:
I can't speak for the Northern states or Canada, but in the South, we have many rural poor that live in trailer parks. Both Democrat and Republican. It is the trailerpark Republican however that tends to vote against their own class interests.

The book, Deer Hunting with Jesus, describes the phenomenon perfectly!
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Just to note

I was joking. I expect that most people in trailer parks are not particularly political and those that are will be a mixture of the two
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
:lol:Good lord.

Lets see, if the businesses don't have anymore oil, then they go out of business.
Consumers don't want to dump a whole pay check into their gas tank, they'll create demand and the market will develop a supply.



You don't know this, it's only speculation.
That's what makes this whole argument retarded.
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The US produced its highest level of crude oil in the 70s and is now producing about 65% of what it did then.

The US military did issue a warning about oil supplies, one reason why it is working at adapting to higher efficiency and alternatives to crude oi( coal to liquid, bio fuels, fuel cells, photovoltaic cells for remote bases)
 
Catawba said:
If he had the opportunity to make more in the free market he wouldn't be a trailer park republican now would he?
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well, so much for love your neighbor

what's wrong with trailer parks?
 
Catawba said:
They let their fears about guns, gays, god and terrorists overide their economic interest.
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americans vote their minds

you gotta problem with that too?
 
Catawba said:
Time to buck up my friend
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vote for obama, 2012---buck up!

stop whining about how much it is costing you!

LOL!

it actually appears that the lovers of all humanity, the courageous captains of the class consciousness crusade, don't really like or respect people very much after all

oh well

buck up!
 
Catawba said:
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Peak oil is a bitch isn't it? Too bad we didn't follow Carter's energy plan, huh? :sun
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Carter wasn't so good on foreign policy, so it follows that he was wrong on everything. it is a part of the republican mantra, no liberal can be right about anything.....
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
If oil was that hard to come by, then the world market would being finding an alternative without government prompting.
They, by and large, aren't and it's not like one day they turn on the oil taps and it's all gone.

A gradual depletion will be noticed and the world will come up with something else, the fear mongering now is moronic.
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The Saudis are investing heavily in solar power, and hope to export it to neighboring countries....
 
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