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ptif219 said:
Not my call but going to play golf last weekend was not a sign of concern. The problem is Obama is doing nothing.
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I'd say its about time to take another vacation...what? How many does he average a year 12 or so? What happened to Little George every time he went to TEXAS to work? Double Standard anyone? Obama has REAL DOCUMENTED VACATIONS...with the cost of each ranging into the MILLIONS, always at TAX PAYER EXPENSE of course.

Look at what the left printed about Bush working from his Crawford Tx. Ranch.

Bush on track to become the vacation president | Julie Mason | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Or concerning the occasional round of golf. They vapor locked over a few rounds of golf. What has Barry Obama done in relation to golf? Only 64 18 hole rounds in two years...do the math. BUT BUSH LIED.....hypocrisy anyone?

huningtonpost.com
 
ptif219 said:
How is doing nothing helping? The UK is doing things to support the rebels while Obama is still trying to figure out what to do so it will help him get re-elected. Obama looks weak and confused when he does nothing


Golf is Back! Obama’s 60th Outing as President | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier
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So Obama plays a round of golf every two weeks? Two this year. Is that too much? How often did Junior play?

You guys should try to find legitimate things to bitch about. You lost all credibility.
 
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ptif219 said:
How is doing nothing helping? The UK is doing things to support the rebels while Obama is still trying to figure out what to do so it will help him get re-elected. Obama looks weak and confused when he does nothing


Golf is Back! Obama’s 60th Outing as President | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier
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Are you ready to pay the price?
New study: No-Fly Zone in Libya could cost billions | Atlantic Council
From NATOSource: The Harrison/Cooper report examines three no-flight zone options for Libya. These estimates are based on comparisons with previous military operations in the Balkans and Iraq.
1. Full No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $100 to $300 million per week. This would cover all of Libya. The initial cost would be $500 million to $1 billion.

2. Limited No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $30 million to $100 million per week. This would cover “the northern third of Libya, above the 29th parallel.” The initial cost would be $400 million to $800 million.

3. Stand-Off No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $15 million to $25 million per week. This would cover only “coastal areas using air and naval vessels operating beyond Libyan territory.” The initial cost would be $0. (photo: Getty)


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...is-an-act-of-war-needs-approval-from-congress

Ron Paul supports doing nothing. Is that the Tea Party stand?

Paul also argued that there is no legitimate reason for a no-fly zone over Libya, which is entering a civil war but does not pose any national security threat to the United States.

"Now, what moral right do we have to participate in war activity against Libya?" he asked. "Libya hasn't done anything to the United States. It would be foolish, it would have a downside, and we should think very, very carefully before we go expanding the wars that we're already involved in."
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USA_1 said:
Are you ready to pay the price?
New study: No-Fly Zone in Libya could cost billions | Atlantic Council
From NATOSource: The Harrison/Cooper report examines three no-flight zone options for Libya. These estimates are based on comparisons with previous military operations in the Balkans and Iraq.
1. Full No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $100 to $300 million per week. This would cover all of Libya. The initial cost would be $500 million to $1 billion.

2. Limited No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $30 million to $100 million per week. This would cover “the northern third of Libya, above the 29th parallel.” The initial cost would be $400 million to $800 million.

3. Stand-Off No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $15 million to $25 million per week. This would cover only “coastal areas using air and naval vessels operating beyond Libyan territory.” The initial cost would be $0. (photo: Getty)
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I support a no-fly zone. Anything further though, it really isn't our place. Don't want to do anything we might regret farther down the road.
 
USA_1 said:
So Obama plays a round of golf every two weeks? Two this year. Is that too much? How often did Junior play?

You guys should try to find legitimate things to bitch about. You lost all credibility.
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Read the article. Bush stopped playing golf because he did not want it to look like he did not care about someones son dying while he played golf.
 
ptif219 said:
My you are testy. So I take it you think Obama is doing everything just right.
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nope. however, i am not stupid enough to demand that he "do anything"........you and i know don't know all the issues involved.
 
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Are you ready to pay the price?
New study: No-Fly Zone in Libya could cost billions | Atlantic Council
From NATOSource: The Harrison/Cooper report examines three no-flight zone options for Libya. These estimates are based on comparisons with previous military operations in the Balkans and Iraq.
1. Full No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $100 to $300 million per week. This would cover all of Libya. The initial cost would be $500 million to $1 billion.

2. Limited No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $30 million to $100 million per week. This would cover “the northern third of Libya, above the 29th parallel.” The initial cost would be $400 million to $800 million.

3. Stand-Off No-Fly Zone with costs in the range of $15 million to $25 million per week. This would cover only “coastal areas using air and naval vessels operating beyond Libyan territory.” The initial cost would be $0. (photo: Getty)


Ron Paul says no-fly zone over Libya is an 'act of war,' needs approval from Congress - The Hill's Floor Action

Ron Paul supports doing nothing. Is that the Tea Party stand?
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It would not just be us. It takes approval of the UN and NATO


BBC News - Libya: UK and French no-fly zone plan gathers pace
 
ptif219 said:
Read the article. Bush stopped playing golf because he did not want it to look like he did not care about someones son dying while he played golf.
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So he jogged and mountain biked instead. Playing golf three times this year is a problem for you?
 
USA_1 said:
So he jogged and mountain biked instead. Playing golf three times this year is a problem for you?
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don't forget brush clearing and hunting for those elusive wmds.
 
USA_1 said:
So he jogged and mountain biked instead. Playing golf three times this year is a problem for you?
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The reason is, it is winter time.

When there is as many problems as we see now, he should be working not golfing
 
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Could that be why Obama hasn't done anything yet?
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Funny when Hillary says it must not be the US that takes the lead. it appears that Obama may not want a no fly zone

Obama team not sold on Libya no-fly zone option - CBS News

Yet for now, the no-fly zone option is not seen as having high impact in ending the violence, said the officials, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the private strategy discussions.

The officials familiar with the meeting would not elaborate.

Earlier this week, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told "Early Show" co-anchor Erica Hill in an exclusive interview that the administration believes, "it's important that this not be an American, or a NATO, or a European effort. It needs to be an international one."
 
ptif219 said:
The reason is, it is winter time.

When there is as many problems as we see now, he should be working not golfing
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So in your mind he should be working 24 hours a day, every day?
 
ptif219 said:
Funny when Hillary says it must not be the US that takes the lead. it appears that Obama may not want a no fly zone

Obama team not sold on Libya no-fly zone option - CBS News

Yet for now, the no-fly zone option is not seen as having high impact in ending the violence, said the officials, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the private strategy discussions.

The officials familiar with the meeting would not elaborate.

Earlier this week, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told "Early Show" co-anchor Erica Hill in an exclusive interview that the administration believes, "it's important that this not be an American, or a NATO, or a European effort. It needs to be an international one."
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He is being cautious and rightfully so. Once we are committed there's no turning the clock back. Are you ready to pay the price for another war? It may be time to let other countries take the lead and pay the price.
 
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He is being cautious and rightfully so. Once we are committed there's no turning the clock back. Are you ready to pay the price for another war? It may be time to let other countries take the lead and pay the price.
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You miss the point. It will be done with the UN and NATO. Obama should let us know what is being done

I see we should look weak and not be a leader.
 
ptif219 said:
You miss the point. It will be done with the UN and NATO. Obama should let us know what is being done

I see we should look weak and not be a leader.
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Obama addressed your concerns in his speech today.

Obama on Libya: Obama says U.S. would intervene in Libya to aid 'defenseless civilians' - latimes.com
ASHINGTON — President Obama signaled Friday that the U.S. military might intervene in Libya at the point that "defenseless civilians" are under attack by forces loyal to Col. Moammar Kadafi, but said even then he would weigh the costs of sending American personnel and carefully consider whether such an operation would be "sustainable."

The president also defended his administration's record on domestic oil production, which he said has increased since 2005. He said he will work to encourage the industry to develop oil production on inactive leases, both offshore and on land, and has directed his administration to explore new frontiers of production.

But he also argued that domestic production is not a long-term solution to the problem of American oil consumption.

"Even if we started drilling new wells tomorrow, that oil isn't coming on line overnight," he said. "And even if we tap every single reserve available to us, we can't escape the fact that we only control 2% of the world's oil but we consume over a quarter of the world's oil."
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The White House moved quickly to distance itself from National Intelligence Director James Clapper’s controversial statements on Libya, China and Russia today – with a top Obama aide calling Clapper’s comments a “static” analysis.

Clapper, speaking to a congressional committee on Thursday, dropped jaws by asserting “over the longer term … the [Qadhafi] regime will prevail” – contradicting the carefully calibrated pro-Libyan rebel message Obama’s national security team was seeking to project.

Already off message, the nation’s top intelligence official went on to describe both China and Russia as “mortal [threats]” to American security – on the very day Vice President Joe Biden was meeting with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

National Security Adviser Tom Donilon said he still has confidence in Clapper – but he told reporters on a White House conference call that Clapper’s conclusion about the outcome in Libya was “a static and one-dimensional assessment.”

Administration analysts have “come to various conclusions about the various advantages that the Qadhafy regime has … and [what] opposition has.” The “multi-dimensional” view of the situation shows that pro-democracy rebels are still strong and worth courting as potential allies, Donilon told reporters on the call, which was intended to outline President Obama’s strategic vision in the region.

He also said that Clapper’s remarks before the Senate Intelligence Committee were intended to provide an unvarnished description of the current state of military affairs as the regime pushes a counterattack against rebels in key oil ports.
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White House distances itself from Clapper remarks - Glenn Thrush and MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

are you sure these people know what they're doing?

remember blair, mcchrystal, jones and his waterbugs?

embarrassing
 
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