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Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

that was march, 2010

last friday: Interior appeals oil drilling ruling - Dan Berman and Darren Goode - POLITICO.com

obama's a buffoon, just another michael moore

The real buffoons are those that actually believe we can drill our way out of energy independence. The GOP had total control for six years. They came up with no energy plan all the time oil prices were climbing to record levels. Now it's all Obama's fault. You people are pathetic.


BP is responsible for a decrease in gulf drilling. Not Obama.
 
Thinking that we didn't pass peak oil in 1971 is what we are doing apparently.

Check out the updated info about the Bakkens formation at SNOPES. It did not turn out to be the "big find" it was originally thought to be.

The Bakkens formation is still yielding less than a half million barrels per day of oil as of February, 2011, while we import currently on average 10 millions barrels per day.

snopes.com: Bakken Formation

5% of our daily oil imports is nothing to sneeze at, or as Biden would say, "It's a big f****ing deal".
 
global warming, peak oil....Man you libs believe anything don't you?

You are the one that is providing opinion in an attempt to refute facts.
 
You are the one that is providing opinion in an attempt to refute facts.


Nah, I think you have that backwards. The numbers were provided by the Geo survey, and further, Peak Oil is as much a religion as Global Warming. You even find some of the same Star Wars bar room characters involved.


j-mac
 
So open up exploring. Why won't Obama do that?

They have been exploring, and for the last 40 years they have not been able to produce as much as we consume.
 
5% of our daily oil imports is nothing to sneeze at, or as Biden would say, "It's a big f****ing deal".

Sure glad we've had that to help hold the prices down! LOL! At any rate the claim had been made we had all the oil we wanted there in the Bakkens. The Snopes link shows that is untrue.
 
They have been exploring, and for the last 40 years they have not been able to produce as much as we consume.


Another lie. There are plenty of places we could extract oil, currently being blocked through excessive regulation, or pressure, and unending law suits filed by the green terrorists. Open up the fields!


j-mac
 
Nah, I think you have that backwards. The numbers were provided by the Geo survey, and further, Peak Oil is as much a religion as Global Warming. You even find some of the same Star Wars bar room characters involved.

I can go with your opinions or the facts as have been shown to you by SNOPES. Afraid I have to go with the facts.
 
Another lie. There are plenty of places we could extract oil, currently being blocked through excessive regulation, or pressure, and unending law suits filed by the green terrorists. Open up the fields!

What fields where there is any significant amount of oil that can be cheaply extracted. Name them? You have already been shown that the Bakkens could supply us without about one years use at our current consumption. And it is currently being pumped but hardly making a difference at all that I have seen in the gas prices.
 
Another lie. There are plenty of places we could extract oil, currently being blocked through excessive regulation, or pressure, and unending law suits filed by the green terrorists. Open up the fields!


j-mac

What you challenged people ignor is that there are tens of millions of acres of public lands that oil companies hold leases on yet are not drilling. Not to mention the millions of acres of private lands they could drill. Every offshore dilling rig is spoken for and every drilling rig under construction is spoken for. There is not an unlimited supply of drilling rigs.

Oil companies set their drilling to maximize profits. No one is stopping them from drilling, only in certain fragile areas.
Oil is a global industry. If the US increased production, others would cutback to keep prices up.
 
Another lie. There are plenty of places we could extract oil, currently being blocked through excessive regulation, or pressure, and unending law suits filed by the green terrorists. Open up the fields!


j-mac

Only a complete idiot believes there is an unlimited supply of oil. Eventually we will reach the point where there is less oil in the ground than we have produced and we have max out production.. If we haven' t already.
 
What fields where there is any significant amount of oil that can be cheaply extracted. Name them? You have already been shown that the Bakkens could supply us without about one years use at our current consumption. And it is currently being pumped but hardly making a difference at all that I have seen in the gas prices.

Hmmm, how about:

1. Gulf of Mexico - 45 billion barrels
2. Federally controlled offshore continental shelf - 44 billion barrels
3. On-shore deposits - 45 billion barrels
4. ANWR - 10.4 billion barrels
5. Alaskan National Petroleum Reserve - 10.6 billion barrels
6. Bakken - 4 billion barrels

and finally if oil shale becomes profitable, we have 2.175 gigabarrels of oil.
 
What fields where there is any significant amount of oil that can be cheaply extracted. Name them? You have already been shown that the Bakkens could supply us without about one years use at our current consumption. And it is currently being pumped but hardly making a difference at all that I have seen in the gas prices.


Lies, lies, lies.....Let's take your touted Snopes link and really see what it says shall we?

It remarks that it is true that scientists and geologists say that there is significant amounts of technically recoverable oil in the Bakken reserves.

Also, that N. Dakota and Montana have an estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, recoverable oil in the ground there.

So you tell me what you think you've disproved? All you have shown is an unwillingness to tap our own resources, which at this time makes NO sense at all.

The USGS summary indicates that their estimates are "undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and gas resources of the Bakken Formation in the United States." The term "undiscovered" suggests that the currently known reserves have been excluded from their totals. "Technically recoverable" has not been defined in the USGS summary; we will need to wait for the detailed report to find out their definition. In the mean time, one reasonable definition might be "the volume of hydrocarbons that theoretically could be produced if enough wells were drilled to drain the entire known area of Bakken oil accumulation".

We can contrast "technically recoverable" to "economically recoverable," a term which can be taken as the amount of producible reserves that will give a reasonable return on capital invested. The volume of economically recoverable reserves will change as oil price, cost of wells, etc. vary. In reality, some of the areas of poorer reservoir will never be drilled because of poor economics: the cost and risk will not be offset by the expected recovery of oil. It is true that more of these marginal areas will be exploited as the price of oil rises.



Table 1 - Probabalistic estimate of "undiscovered, technically recoverable oil", from the 2008 USGS Bakken Assessment (Note: MMBO=Million Barrels of Oil, BCF=Billion Cubic Feet)
The USGS estimated reserves probabilistically, as indicated by the P95, P50, P5, and mean values on the table above. (P95, for example, indicates that there is a 95 percent chance that the reserves value given will exceed this value.) Using the mean value as a representative number for the distribution, the USGS estimate that there are 3,649 million barrels of technically recoverable oil in the entire US Bakken accumulation. Associated with the oil production are 1,850 billion cubic feet of natural gas and 148 million barrels of NGL's. On an equivalent energy basis, about 90% of the energy value is in the oil, with the remaining percentage in the gas and NGL's.

The Oil Drum | The Bakken Formation: How Much Will It Help?

That's hundreds of years of resource available right here! If not thousand or better. It leads one to believe that you anti oil people are intent on destroying this nation from within.


j-mac
 
Only a complete idiot believes there is an unlimited supply of oil. Eventually we will reach the point where there is less oil in the ground than we have produced and we have max out production.. If we haven' t already.


Nonsense. I never said unlimited. Those are your words. But we do have enough supply to be 100% energy independent for hundreds of years, unlike your sky is falling crap. This shortage is man made, and self imposed.


j-mac
 
Hmmm, how about:

1. Gulf of Mexico - 45 billion barrels
2. Federally controlled offshore continental shelf - 44 billion barrels
3. On-shore deposits - 45 billion barrels
4. ANWR - 10.4 billion barrels
5. Alaskan National Petroleum Reserve - 10.6 billion barrels
6. Bakken - 4 billion barrels

and finally if oil shale becomes profitable, we have 2.175 gigabarrels of oil.


Let's see your documentation and links, I am not much interested in your opinion based on how often you have been wrong in the past.
 
What you challenged people ignor is that there are tens of millions of acres of public lands that oil companies hold leases on yet are not drilling. Not to mention the millions of acres of private lands they could drill. Every offshore dilling rig is spoken for and every drilling rig under construction is spoken for. There is not an unlimited supply of drilling rigs.

Oil companies set their drilling to maximize profits. No one is stopping them from drilling, only in certain fragile areas.
Oil is a global industry. If the US increased production, others would cutback to keep prices up.


*sigh* your posting is really dishonest. Permits issued knowingly on lands that are other than where the oil is, Environmental groups thwarting through terrorism, or law suits, NIMBY attitudes, and over regulation that keeps oil from being extracted from our own reserves is maddening. then you have the gaul to say we are running short? Your mindset, and other like yours are what is destroying this nation and making us more reliant on our enemies for our energy.


j-mac
 
j-mac;1059332181. But we do have enough supply to be 100% energy independent for hundreds of years said:
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Do you know what proven US oil reserves are?
 
It remarks that it is true that scientists and geologists say that there is significant amounts of technically recoverable oil in the Bakken reserves.

Also, that N. Dakota and Montana have an estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, recoverable oil in the ground there.

That's quite right. The oil that the Canadians are exporting to the US doesn't stop at the border. It goes underground well into North Dakota and Montana and. some think, even further south.

North America could easily be energy independent and, with the use of modern technology, largely pollution free.

It is the ideologues who make Americans dependent on foreign oil, not the lack of natural resources.
 
*sigh* your posting is really dishonest. Permits issued knowingly on lands that are other than where the oil is, Environmental groups thwarting through terrorism, or law suits, NIMBY attitudes, and over regulation that keeps oil from being extracted from our own reserves is maddening. then you have the gaul to say we are running short? Your mindset, and other like yours are what is destroying this nation and making us more reliant on our enemies for our energy.


j-mac

There are plenty of places to drill and explore. It is you that is being dishonest.

Services under the U.S. Department of the Interior estimate the total volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil in the United States to be roughly 134 billion barrels.[6][7] Over 1 million exploratory and developmental crude oil wells have already been drilled in the US since 1949

At current consumption of 7 billion bbls a year we have less than a 20 years supply if were even possible to extract it all in that time.
 
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There are plenty of places to drill and explore. It is you that is being dishonest.


/facepalm....Isn't it you that tried to tell me that Obama was issuing exploration permits, then gave me an article before the Gulf oil spill? Come back when you want to be honest.

j-mac
 
Lies, lies, lies.....Let's take your touted Snopes link and really see what it says shall we? It remarks that it is true that scientists and geologists say that there is significant amounts of technically recoverable oil in the Bakken reserves. Also, that N. Dakota and Montana have an estimated 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of undiscovered, recoverable oil in the ground there. So you tell me what you think you've disproved? All you have shown is an unwillingness to tap our own resources, which at this time makes NO sense at all.

As has been documented,

The Bakkens formation is still yielding less than a half million barrels per day of oil as of February, 2011, while we import currently on average 10 millions barrels per day.

If all the 3.5 billion barrels were recovered in one year from the sites you mentioned in N. Dakota and Montana, it would last us about one year at our current usage.

Neither appear to be having any effect on gas prices that I have noticed.
 
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