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Those would apply to you. It is usually the fool who paints those with different opinions as "illogical." Do I think them misguided? Yes. Not capable of reason? No. I am neither stupid, irrational, bigoted, ignorant, desperate, or illogical. I merely disagree based on my religion.

Well that definatley makes you irrational, and ups the probabability of you being stupid, ignorant and bigoted.

But hey, we're all ignorant about something right. GUESS THAT MEANS WE'RE ALL IGNORANMUSES ABOUT SOMTHING HUR HUR HUR.
 
I happen to be black.

What does being black have to do with being a racist and/or bigot? Are you saying that blacks can't be either or both of those things?

As for the incest stuff being talked about in this thread...As long as they're adults I could care less if they're first cousins or not. Now brother and sister, or dad and sister or any combination of immediate family....I would be against that. Too easy for someone older to program a child into thinking that them having sex as a kid is OK. And no real way to tell until it is too late.

As for the beastiality...last I knew in order to have sex with someone you needed to have consent coming from both sexual partners. Since animals can't give consent...well that equals rape, wouldn't you say?
 
What does being black have to do with being a racist and/or bigot? Are you saying that blacks can't be either or both of those things?


I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and I can assure you that blacks in my neighborhood are very racist. So are the Mexicans, Russians, Asians etc..


Just because you are black doesn't mean you aren't a racist.
 
I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and I can assure you that blacks in my neighborhood are very racist. So are the Mexicans, Russians, Asians etc..


Just because you are black doesn't mean you aren't a racist.

My dad use to say that there are two kinds of people in every race. One is good one is bad. What name you gave them deteremined weather you thought that person was good or bad. (ahole or not..whatever you want to call someone you don't like). When talking about the bad people in a particular race it went like this...Whites = crackers or hics or red necks (really depended on his mood), mexicans = spics or wetbacks, blacks = the N word and so on and so forth. When talking about the good people in a particular race it went like this... Whites = white, Mexicans = mexicans, Blacks = Blacks and so on and so forth.

Are those words racist? By themselves no. When used a certain way then yes. I don't think my dad was being racist when he told me this. He was defineing attitudes more than anything else mixed with a good dose of Aholeness. However, I would bet that someone will find what my father said as racist.

I know what I just said here went off on a bit of a tangent, but I felt that it needed to be said.
 
They already have their rights and if you say gay marriage I will say the have the same rights i have....They want special rights..............

The term "special rights" is nothing but a right-wing propoganda talking point to try to avoid debating the real issues, because they know they lose.
The same term was used about blacks in the civil rights movement. Blacks had the same right as everyone else to drink out of their drinking fountains...they wanted the special right to drink out of other people's drinking fountain.
 
The term "special rights" is nothing but a right-wing propoganda talking point to try to avoid debating the real issues, because they know they lose.
The same term was used about blacks in the civil rights movement. Blacks had the same right as everyone else to drink out of their drinking fountains...they wanted the special right to drink out of other people's drinking fountain.

Don't put this issue in terms of conservatives and leftists. To do so demeans conservative supporters of lgbt rights.
 
Don't put this issue in terms of conservatives and leftists. To do so demeans conservative supporters of lgbt rights.

I don't say this often, but Albert has a good point. Also note that the court case which may have contributed to some republican senators voting yes was brought by the Log Cabin Republicans.
 
A very very true statement. In this case I think it is a victory for our military.

Only time will tell. I don't think it'll have the happy ending that some folks think. But, they tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, nevermind my military experience. They all know better than me.
 
Only time will tell. I don't think it'll have the happy ending that some folks think. But, they tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, nevermind my military experience. They all know better than me.


There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV.
 
There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV.

LOL...the arrogance of those who served in the military that believe that they can speak for everyone else is absolutely amazing.
 
LOL...the arrogance of those who served in the military that believe that they can speak for everyone else is absolutely amazing.

Especially when there's documented proof that they're in the minority.
 
There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV.

Even more people with miltiary experience that do agree with my point of view. People who have actually spent time in actual combat arms units, are telling a much different story.
 
LOL...the arrogance of those who served in the military that believe that they can speak for everyone else is absolutely amazing.

Not much different than this comment:

"There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV".

What about those folks? Does their opinion matter more than mine?
 
Not much different than this comment:

"There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV".

What about those folks? Does their opinion matter more than mine?


In what way shape or form was my comment arrogant?
 
Care to show us that documented proof?

It's in the DoD report. We have even had threads on it here. The military has a majority who think repeal will have a positive, no or some good some bad effects. Those who have served with gays have an even larger majority for those sentiments, even among those in combat units.
 
Only time will tell. I don't think it'll have the happy ending that some folks think. But, they tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, nevermind my military experience. They all know better than me.

Military experience isn't universal in the sense that it gives you some sort of holistic knowledge that this ruling won't end well. There are a plethora of identities, cultures and personalities I've encountered in the service that I could easily use to counter your stance... and we'll arrive at a stand still.
 
It means I got you on that issue. Either you're not bigoted towards any harmless lifestyle, or you're a bigot.

It is in the same category. Any sort of sex outside of being between a man and a woman is therefore classified that way. You're not even seeing how one step can turn into another and another. Soon you'll be in my place, with them calling you a bigot. Who doesn't love diversity? Look at history.

Are you seriously saying that someone who sleeps with someone of the same sex is the same as someone who rapes sheep?

Is that what you're saying?
 
There are people with military experience just like you that disagree with your POV.

Sadly there are senior officers who are so afraid for their careers that if the SECDEF told them to **** they would squat and say where........
 
Sadly there are senior officers who are so afraid for their careers that if the SECDEF told them to **** they would squat and say where........

Sadly there are people who are so convinced that only their viewpoint is valid they assume any one with another must do so for reasons other than simply they believe differently.
 
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