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Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!! Which one? It's killing me. I was hoping for the whole thing, but part is good for now.
 
Like anyone with any common sense didn't already know this was the case, right?

This may mean the whole law will have to be thrown out. Obama will now have to work with the GOP on healthcare.
 
the requirement that we buy insurance or get fined.

Oh, good! I can keep my health insurance after all. I was going to have to buy a bigger plan because I have a high deductible plan.
 
Looks like Obama care may not happen

Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

A federal judge has ruled that part of President Obama's health care reform legislation is unconstitutional.

Oh good. This should make it easier to get the whole thing repealed so we can start over with something that cuts costs without cutting the quality of care. Isn't it Paul Ryan who has a decent plan we could use as a starting point and maybe get something bi-partisan?
 
Oh good. This should make it easier to get the whole thing repealed so we can start over with something that cuts costs without cutting the quality of care. Isn't it Paul Ryan who has a decent plan we could use as a starting point and maybe get something bi-partisan?

If they can not force all to get insurance then the rest of Obama care can not be enforced.

The GOP is probably already looking at options.
 
the requirement that we buy insurance or get fined.

That's interesting.

If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...
 
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That's interesting.

If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...

Maggie, there was so much bad stuff in that bill we just need to start over.
 
That's interesting.

If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...

This is the part of the plan that makes no sense.

If I've got heart disease and need a transplant, then I sign an insurance policy, make a single $100 monthly payment, then get $250,000 worth of surgery and aftercare, how does that work for the insurance company?

This is how you know for certain Obama wants to just do away with private insurance altogether. How can they possibly compete when they have to run like a business, but the government doesn't?
 
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Glad for the ruling but......
This will not really be news till it reads, Supreme Court rules Obama Care unconstitutional.

The commerce clause is the problem. I do not see the SCOTUS saying this covered under that clause
 
Glad for the ruling but......
This will not really be news till it reads, Supreme Court rules Obama Care unconstitutional.

True, But repealing the bill is #1 in Jan. They are going to put it to a vote (they will have the votes) Then they will take to Obama (he'll veto)
Then they are going to start trying to repeal, defund parts of it.
I don't know if it's possible but would be nice if they could work on building a new one as they are dissecting the other one.
 
This is the part of the plan that makes no sense.

If I've got heart disease and need a transplant, then I sign an insurance policy, make a single $100 monthly payment, then get $250,000 worth of surgery and aftercare, how does that work for the insurance company?

This is how you know for certain Obama wants to just do away with private insurance altogether. How can they possibly compete when they have to run like a business, but the government doesn't?

BINGO we got a winner! :)
 
Just noting from the OP:

. . . and the White House expected to lose this round.
 
That's interesting.

If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...

Yeah. This is very worrysome because without the provision that we all get insurance, its going to put the insurance companies in a very bad position, which in the end will hurt everyone.
 
Just noting from the OP:

. . . and the White House expected to lose this round.

So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.
 
Yeah. This is very worrysome because without the provision that we all get insurance, its going to put the insurance companies in a very bad position, which in the end will hurt everyone.

It's the disconnect I think many miss. You have to have a way to make up for the cost to insurance companies for the provisions that most like. As noted before, the public option would have been a better solution, but people opposed that as well. There is a disconnect.
 
So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.

No, they simply expected a rocky road.
 
So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.

Well yes and no. They knew it was unconstitutional but didn't care. With people like Kagan on the SCOTUS they think they can get away with it.
 
Well yes and no. They knew it was unconstitutional but didn't care. With people like Kagan on the SCOTUS they think they can get away with it.

:roll: Keep telling yourself that. :coffeepap
 
It's the disconnect I think many miss. You have to have a way to make up for the cost to insurance companies for the provisions that most like. As noted before, the public option would have been a better solution, but people opposed that as well. There is a disconnect.

Ultimately, we either need both or we need neither. Having one without the other is a recipe for disaster.
 
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