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'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

I don't believe the Navy in itself represents the whole population of straight people which we are talking about when we speak of the gay population.......

We are talking about gays in the military. So comparing those gays in the military to other military members is quite reasonable.
 
Gays and straights do share housing though.

And, as has been posted here many times, it does not matter what the sexuality is of either person involved in a sexual harassment charge. A straight man can bring another straight man up on charges of sexual harassment if the first one is offended by sexual jokes that the other has told. Also, as I have told people on here many times, I knew way more straight men that were likely to "hit on" other straight men just to annoy or upset them.

Unknowingly share showers. When it's all in the open, I believe it will be a different story.
 
So anyway, did you ever find this regulation?

Other than the command policy, regarding sexual harassment, I didn't.

I know that you're going to say, now, that no such regulation exists. If that's the case, why are males and females not allowed to share billets?
 
Unknowingly share showers. When it's all in the open, I believe it will be a different story.

36 % of the military says it has served with people they know or think is gay, so many are knowingly sharing showers with gays.
 
Other than the command policy, regarding sexual harassment, I didn't.

I know that you're going to say, now, that no such regulation exists. If that's the case, why are males and females not allowed to share billets?

It was not in that command policy that I could find. So since you claimed it exists, why don't you find it. I do not know if such a regulation exists, you are the one making the claim.
 
Unknowingly share showers. When it's all in the open, I believe it will be a different story.

With DADT, they simply don't know who really is gay. This does not mean that they should believe that they never share showers with anyone who is gay. The same thing can never be said about men sharing showers with women, since there really isn't a way to hide gender.
 
With DADT, they simply don't know who really is gay. This does not mean that they should believe that they never share showers with anyone who is gay. The same thing can never be said about men sharing showers with women, since there really isn't a way to hide gender.


AH-HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's great! We should lift the ban and leave DADT in place, for the time being. Yes?
 
DADT is just proof that conservatives believe ignorance is bliss.
 
DADT is just proof that conservatives believe ignorance is bliss.

I love how Libbos, who have never spent a single day in uniform, nor ever desired to, insult us.

Get your ass in the grass, then sling the insults.
 
I love how Libbos, who have never spent a single day in uniform, nor ever desired to, insult us.

I'm not liberal, and I was talking about conservatives, not people who served. Redress served after all.

Get your ass in the grass, then sling the insults.

It isn't an insult when it is the truth. You believe ignorance is bliss, hence you support DADT.
 
I love how Libbos, who have never spent a single day in uniform, nor ever desired to, insult us.

Get your ass in the grass, then sling the insults.

I love how conno's(that doesn't work as well) make overly broad generalizations.
 
I love how Libbos, who have never spent a single day in uniform, nor ever desired to, insult us.

Get your ass in the grass, then sling the insults.

I find it amusing that if someone disagrees with you they instantly are liberals.
 
I'm not liberal, and I was talking about conservatives, not people who served. Redress served after all.

yeah, right!! Whatever.

It isn't an insult when it is the truth. You believe ignorance is bliss, hence you support DADT.

So is your's. If this goes bad, you'll never know, because it won't be your ass that gets killed, nor any of your buddies.
 
I find it amusing that if someone disagrees with you they instantly are liberals.

I find it even funnier that someone who believes that the ban on gays in the military should be lifted is constantly called a homophobe.
 
So is your's. If this goes bad, you'll never know, because it won't be your ass that gets killed, nor any of your buddies.

Now that is quite an assumption to make. Everyone knows somebody who is serving in the military.

I think at this point, you are throwing all reason to the wind.
 
I find it even funnier that someone who believes that the ban on gays in the military should be lifted is constantly called a homophobe.

But you are calling for a specific group to be excluded from a public, government program. If that isn't homophobic, I am not sure what is.
 
Now that is quite an assumption to make. Everyone knows somebody who is serving in the military.

It's a whole different story when it's not your ass on the line and not one of your comrades. The whole, "band of brothers", thing and all. Ya know?
 
It's a whole different story when it's not your ass on the line and not one of your comrades. The whole, "band of brothers", thing and all. Ya know?

So you are serving right now?
 
But you are calling for a specific group to be excluded from a public, government program. If that isn't homophobic, I am not sure what is.

How is my support of lifting the ban on gays in the military calling for the exclusion of a specific group?
 
I find it even funnier that someone who believes that the ban on gays in the military should be lifted is constantly called a homophobe.

...you know there is no ban on gays serving in the military, right?
 
AH-HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's great! We should lift the ban and leave DADT in place, for the time being. Yes?

No. Because the military should not be promoting any type of intolerance or discrimination. And, your earlier suggestion that troops simply be ordered to not be allowed to talk about their sexuality/significant others/relationships will not work. You can try to get it through all you want, but it won't happen.
 
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