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'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

apdst said:
You want gays to be able to serve and protect the integrity of our combat forces, or what? This ain't a ****ing playground where everything is perfect and everybody gets what they want. It's a fighting force, that has one priority: defeat the enemy and bring as many of our people home back in one piece.

You do realize that when a unit doesn't work right, people die. I knew a guy that died--during a training mission--because no one in his platoon was competant enough to call for a dustoff bird. This isn't about what's right, or fair, or neat, or cool, or PC, or groovy. It's about what's best for mission accomplishment and troop welfare and if that doesn't fall in line with your politics, then tough ****.

Grow up! Please?
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Policemen and firemen put their lives on the line everyday and manage to work with openly gay coworkers. Somehow your argument rings of whining. If all that matters is completeing the mission, then you have no basis by which to oppose repeal of DADT.
 
apdst said:
How many of those armies have you served in? None, right? So, you really don't know.
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So basically, the only people who are allowed to have an opinion on military policy are those who served in it?
 
Your Star said:
Key word, everyone's, why are you singling LGBT people out?
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Because that's what we've been talking about over the last thousand posts.


So it's wrong for him/her to seek out the comfort of a partner, but not a straight soldier to do the same? Please atleast acknowledge the hypocrisy in DADT.
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I understand the argument.
 
CriticalThought said:
Policemen and firemen put their lives on the line everyday and manage to work with openly gay coworkers. Somehow your argument rings of whining. If all that matters is completeing the mission, then you have no basis by which to oppose repeal of DADT.
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Not the same thing, bro. I don't expect you to get it. I mean, hell, there's no way you can.
 
CriticalThought said:
So basically, the only people who are allowed to have an opinion on military policy are those who served in it?
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Not at all. People who have an informed opinion on military policy, are those who have actually served.

Most of the vets on this forum have told you all what problems are going to arise from abolishing DADT. And ya'll simply refuse to listen, because you're smarter than we are, or something.
 
apdst said:
You want gays to be able to serve and protect the integrity of our combat forces, or what? This ain't a ****ing playground where everything is perfect and everybody gets what they want. It's a fighting force, that has one priority: defeat the enemy and bring as many of our people home back in one piece.

You do realize that when a unit doesn't work right, people die. I knew a guy that died--during a training mission--because no one in his platoon was competant enough to call for a dustoff bird. This isn't about what's right, or fair, or neat, or cool, or PC, or groovy. It's about what's best for mission accomplishment and troop welfare and if that doesn't fall in line with your politics, then tough ****.

Grow up! Please?
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If only there were a scientific study on this issue. :lamo

It's your politics getting in the way buddy, shut up and adapt. It's the way of the world.
 
apdst said:
Not the same thing, bro. I don't expect you to get it. I mean, hell, there's no way you can.
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Have you worked as a policeman or fireman? By your logic, if you have not then you could not possibly know whether or not it is the same thing.
 
apdst said:
Not the same thing, bro. I don't expect you to get it. I mean, hell, there's no way you can.
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Yo he ain't your "bro" but I bet he will look after back in the battlefield despite your problems.
 
Your Star said:
If only there were a scientific study on this issue. :lamo

It's your politics getting in the way buddy, shut up and adapt. It's the way of the world.
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Interesting you should say that; since adapting is the last thing you're in favor of.
 
X Factor said:
Because that's what we've been talking about over the last thousand posts.


I understand the argument.
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No, why should DADT in place, and single out LGBT soldiers?
 
Kelzie said:
And you are both welcome to. The DoD trumps both of you.
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I almost wish they would repeal DADT so you liberals will see how wrong you are and the trouble it will cause......Sadly you are going to see a lot of gay men be physically assaulted whether right or wrongly
 
Kelzie said:
Sexual harrassment shouldn't happen period. I say we ban all straight men from the military, since they're the biggest offenders.
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That might be because only about 1% of the population (not counting lesbians) is gay
 
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Navy Pride said:
I almost wish they would repeal DADT so you liberals will see how wrong you are and the trouble it will cause......Sadly you are going to see a lot of gay men be physically assaulted whether right or wrongly
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Navy, you are a product of a different time. But with my generation, you know the majority of people who are actually fighting right now, on average don't give a damn weather someone is gay or not. It's not that big of a deal, and it's time to change this outdated policy.
 
Your Star said:
No, why should DADT in place, and single out LGBT soldiers?
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I'm sorry, I'm not being a smart ass but I think you may have left a word out of your question so I don't understand what you're asking me.
 
Lesbians aren't gay? :thinking DADT needs to be repealed ASAP because LGBT citizens of the USA deserve equality in the military
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Navy Pride said:
I almost wish they would repeal DADT so you liberals will see how wrong you are and the trouble it will cause......Sadly you are going to see a lot of gay men be physically assaulted whether right or wrongly
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Oh, I'm sure if it gets repealed you will delight in reporting to us any case of such a thing happening.
 
Navy Pride said:
Yhat might be because only about 1% of the population (not counting lesbians) is gay
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That is wrong. The latest, most comprehensive nationally representative study indicates that 7% of women and 8% of men identify as gay.
 
X Factor said:
I'm sorry, I'm not being a smart ass but I think you may have left a word out of your question so I don't understand what you're asking me.
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Why should we ban LGBT soldiers from serving openly because it may offend someone, why are you singling out LGBT soldiers?
 
CriticalThought said:
What is with you and daisy chains? I honestly find it strange that I'm gay and never even heard of it before, and then learned about if from you.
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When the AIDS virus first started they closed all the bath houses in the Peoples Republic of SF because they were full of gay men having orgys every night....They were involved in long connections called daisy chains.Guess you never been to SF or Seattle.......
 
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