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Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

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Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia | Media | guardian.co.uk

Russia has suggested that Julian Assange should be awarded the Nobel peace prize, in an unexpected show of support from Moscow for the jailed WikiLeaks founder.

In what appears to be a calculated dig at the US, the Kremlin urged non-governmental organisations to think seriously about "nominating Assange as a Nobel Prize laureate".

"Public and non-governmental organisations should think of how to help him," the source from inside president Dmitry Medvedev's office told Russian news agencies. Speaking in Brussels, where Medvedev was attending a Russia-EU summit yesterday , the source went on: "Maybe, nominate him as a Nobel Prize laureate."

So Berkley wants to honor Assange's source, and now Russia wants to honor Assange with the same award Al Gore received?

It makes more sense by the day.

LOL
 
Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia | Media | guardian.co.uk



So Berkley wants to honor Assange's source, and now Russia wants to honor Assange with the same award Al Gore received?

It makes more sense by the day.

LOL

As an Australian born myself, I count him among some of the greatest living Australians.

I voted for him on the Time most influential people list. I like what he's doing.

As for Russia calling for him to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize... who cares? I'd prefer him to get some sort of freedom of the press award.

Hopefully this massive controversy he's drummed up will prompt a review of the freedom of the press stateside.

:peace
 
When Wikileaks publishes Russian cables, it will be a wonderful opportunity to hold Russian leaders accountable to the idea of free speech and transparent governance.
 
When Wikileaks publishes Russian cables, it will be a wonderful opportunity to hold Russian leaders accountable to the idea of free speech and transparent governance.

If they released Russian cables, Assange would be hanging by his testicles in a Siberian forest.
 
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He most certainly should be acknowledged

I will also wait in anticipation for his leaks on Russia and other countries.
 
Sure, but do the Chinese citizens even know about it?

Would we know about it, if it hadn't been leaked?

Here's a provocative scenario for you, Erod. Put on your thinking cap. Say Assange was based in the U.S. and publishing Chinese dissident leaks of classified Chinese documents that were detrimental to the Chinese government. Would you be in favor of arresting him and handing him over for incarceration?

Stretch your brain.
 
Thanks for clarifying. I knew he was evil, but I didn't realize he was the octoleak.

LOL, would it surprise you at this point?

I wonder what truly drives this man. What is his goal? It's not transparency, I know that. There were a lot of ways to accomplish that without doing it this way.

I suspect he's an anarchist at heart. We can be certain he's an exhibitionist, too.

But what deep down is his ultimate goal?

He might just be a punk trying to stir up trouble, and nothing more.
 
Would we know about it, if it hadn't been leaked?

Here's a provocative scenario for you, Erod. Put on your thinking cap. Say Assange was based in the U.S. and publishing Chinese dissident leaks of classified Chinese documents that were detrimental to the Chinese government. Would you be in favor of arresting him and handing him over for incarceration?

Stretch your brain.

What I read in that scenario is the function of the CIA. Certainly we all know there is a constant intelligence game going on out there, but there is a national purpose - someone's national purpose - being served in their work.

But this is a man without a country, leaking information in the name of "journalism" with no other cause other than to claim a dedication toward "transparency". It doesn't wash with me.

This, to me, looks more like a "look at me" campaign, and by doing this so publicly, he's not accomplishing anything but straining relations in a world that is already strained.

I think this is going to damage communication between nations, not improve it. I think this is going to HURT transparency, not promote it. This is going to scare everyone back into their closets, and it will be very Cold War like between nations once again.

Or so, that is a possibility. I'm just thinking out loud as you asked.
 
LOL, would it surprise you at this point?

I wonder what truly drives this man. What is his goal? It's not transparency, I know that. There were a lot of ways to accomplish that without doing it this way.

I suspect he's an anarchist at heart. We can be certain he's an exhibitionist, too.

But what deep down is his ultimate goal?

He might just be a punk trying to stir up trouble, and nothing more.

I don't really care what his goals are. What he's done is actually valuable to us, if we'd remove our scary bad guy blinders and look at it, pragmatically.
 
Has he promised such?

No idea, he's screwed over China though.

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Sure, but would the Chinese citizens ever know about it?

They don't have to, they're not the ones who would hang him from his testicles in a Siberian forest...

I sort of want them to attempt a trial against Assange on charge of the Espionage Act. It'd be interesting and might bring up some debate about the legislation itself.

Wikileaks has my complete support, and I'm trying to donate where possible. Unfortunately, that's not as easy as it sounds. I did manage to get off $50 before all this controversy started, however, earlier in the year, after the previous leak.

Even if Wikileaks gets destroyed and all it's members executed/imprisoned/assassinated, other people will continue the work. They've started a train that won't stop lightly.
 
That's actually pretty funny, good call Russia.
That looks to me to be purely a funny jab at the U.S. and it's fairly recent Nobel Prize news, and for us having to deal with wikileaks.
 
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What I read in that scenario is the function of the CIA. Certainly we all know there is a constant intelligence game going on out there, but there is a national purpose - someone's national purpose - being served in their work.

So you see zero value in Chinese dissidents leaking information that China is engaged in an ongoing cyberwar with the U.S. and U.S. companies? And, you wouldn't want to protect the dissidents who leaked this information?

But this is a man without a country, leaking information in the name of "journalism" with no other cause other than to claim a dedication toward "transparency". It doesn't wash with me.

Transparency isn't enough? I think transparency is crucial to democracy. Democracy requires an educated populace who are informed, regularly and openly, on the doings of the people that we've tasked with our business. Do you think our society suffers from too little or too much government transparency right now?

Putting aside what Assange's motives are (and frankly, his motives don't matter much, what matters is where we find ourselves now), do you think that it is better for us to know about Dyncorp paying for child prostitutes for Afghani diplomats or not?

This, to me, looks more like a "look at me" campaign, and by doing this so publicly, he's not accomplishing anything but straining relations in a world that is already strained.

I don't believe they are as strained as you suggest. We give a lot of countries around the world massive amounts of money, resources, weapons, etc. They're going to keep playing, even though we're the world's worst secret keepers. There is no benefit in them not playing with us...and they certainly don't want to lose their cash cow. They may even be downright pissed for a while, but they'll get over it as long as the cash keeps flowing.

I think this is going to damage communication between nations, not improve it. I think this is going to HURT transparency, not promote it. This is going to scare everyone back into their closets, and it will be very Cold War like between nations once again.

It's possible, but unlikely.

Or so, that is a possibility. I'm just thinking out loud as you asked.

Thank you, for that. But you didn't answer my question. What would you support doing in the scenario I described?
 
When Wikileaks publishes Russian cables, it will be a wonderful opportunity to hold Russian leaders accountable to the idea of free speech and transparent governance.


Uhm assface said he was focusing on the US, and would ignore or not bother with other countries dirty laundry. :shrug:
 
Uhm assface said he was focusing on the US, and would ignore or not bother with other countries dirty laundry. :shrug:

If I were doing something similar I'd focus on the US purely because it views itself as a beacon of freedom. Britain down the line somewhere, China somewhere, Russia, etc.
 
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