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Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

WeAreReborn said:
Then blame the gangs not the race. The city I live in is 60% hispanic and the majority of the city is poor. We don't have a moderate or even big gang problem. Yes you do, but you are unaware of it. It's driven by dope.

Why? Where do you derive this conclusion from? You are the beneficiary of White Privilege. That makes you racist according to lefist ideology.

Huh? I don't have and never had a wife. I also am for 100% women equality, hence my avatar...Don't care.

Some may have a lack of education but I wouldn't call them unskilled. They are skilled at the work they create, it is all subjective on what skilled is. You are right they are often poor but if we claim to be of an utmost moral standard shouldn't we help them? Or at the very least make it so Mexico can become a thriving country again? America's obligation is to Americans like the residents of Detroit. America has no obligation to the people of Mexico who have violated American laws and taken the jobs that should be filled by Americans. The Mexican oligarchy is playing you for a fool. Screw that country.

I live in a largely poor area of Southern California. Most people here, regardless of race, aren't ignorant. They know a lot about the problems of today and have their own solutions. By you saying most Californians are ignorant is truly representative of your unaccepting nature. Did you go to public school in California after 1970? If so, the odds are that you were processed many times by incompetent teachers. That means that there are gaps in your education. You simply lack the perspective necessary to ascertain the inferiority of your own education.

We fought for our children and ensured they did not encounter incompetent teachers. They received first rate educations. They went to charter schools.

But if you made the third world country into a third world country shouldn't you hold some responsibility? After all, Mexico was becoming an industrial giant until NAFTA which absolutely decimated their economy and any hope of being independent. No.
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Heavy Duty said:
Want me to put up polls from Pew where Muslim countries support terrorism over non Muslim countries?
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The most recent Pew survey on the subject shows that the majority of the population of Muslim countries don't support Al Qaeda. Would you like to see it?
 
Heavy Duty said:
But unless youre a total moron you know better.

From our friendly and peaceful religion of Islam just last week.

2010.12.08 (Kohat, Pakistan) - A teen suicide bomber targets a crowd of Shia pilgrims at a bus stop, sending nearly two dozen to Allah, mostly women and children.
2010.12.07 (Tal Afar, Iraq) - Fundamentalists bomb a computer shop, killing an employee.
2010.12.07 (Varanasi, India) - A 2-year-old girl is left dead following a Mujahideen blast at a Hindu temple.
2010.12.06 (Baqubah, Iraq) - Three children bleed out when terrorists booby-trap a home.
2010.12.06 (Mohmand, Pakistan) - Two Holy Warriors massacre over forty innocents with a dual suicide blast at a gathering of tribal leaders in the name of 'enforcing Sharia.'
2010.12.05 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Four Holy Warriors bind and stab an elderly Christian couple to death in their home.
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But its just a FEW Muslims...
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
It doesn't matter. Now ask me why it doesn't matter.
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Actually, it does matter. i work in the field, and the gang problem is definitely not evenly dispersed across California cities, nor is it driven, per se, by dope. That's a common myth that I hear from people who don't know better, though.
 
So when are we going to catch a real jihadist and not an idiot who merely attempts to carry out a plot designed for him by the FBI? Glorified entrapment.
 
apdst said:
Yes! Muslim extremists operate within the Muslim community. It's up to the Muslim community, to work together and destroy that sanctuary. However, all we seem to hear from the Muslims is, "I don't condone terrorism, but I agree with why it happens".
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Sleeper cell terrorists do not live in the Muslim communities in America, or Europe. They shave close, speak proper English and blend into suburban neighborhoods. The Muslim community can't turn them in because they don't know where to find them.

None of us suspect them.
 
Another freedom fighter wrongly entraped by the tools of the great satan.
 
SgtRock said:
Another freedom fighter wrongly entraped by the tools of the great satan.
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Boy thats taking a page right out of the liberal "Hand Book for making excuses for Muslim terrorists".
 
Kev316 said:
Conservatives will bitch we stopped this one, too.
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Thats a dumbass thing to say. The only ones Ive seen complaining are the kneejerk liberals (and thank goodness they are in the minority of liberals) that squeal its 'entrapment'.

As conservative as I am the anti-terror arena is the one place I (and others) have CONSISTENTLY given Obama props.
 
Heavy Duty said:
Boy thats taking a page right out of the liberal "Hand Book for making excuses for Muslim terrorists".
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Hey paratrooper, you know what they say "only two things fall from the sky, bird**** and fools" and besides why would anybody jump out of a perfectly good aircraft?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Actually, it does matter. i work in the field, and the gang problem is definitely not evenly dispersed across California cities, nor is it driven, per se, by dope. That's a common myth that I hear from people who don't know better, though.
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Here's where we part company. You approach this matter from a neutral professional dispassionate standpoint. If you didn't you wouldn't be a professional.

I live with the gangs in my face. That makes all the difference in the world. I am not dispassionate. I am overwhelmed and menaced.

Tell me now...other than the actors, how does the gang problem differ from Fresno to Chino to Salinas to LA to SF to Sacramento to Oakland to Santa Cruz to Compton and to San Diego? Where I live the majority of gang bangers are in the business in one capacity or another. Thank you.
 
Mickey Shane said:
Sleeper cell terrorists do not live in the Muslim communities in America, or Europe. They shave close, speak proper English and blend into suburban neighborhoods. The Muslim community can't turn them in because they don't know where to find them.

None of us suspect them.
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Bigfoot does the same thing. I've seen the SOB on the bus more than once.
 
Why do you feel I have any love for terrorists, Muslim, Christian, Hasidic Jew or otherwise? Son, you're a student. I was trying to keep the peace between Christians and Muslims in Beirut before you were ever thought of. There were bad guys on both sides, not to mention a stupid president who got a lot of Americans killed playing tough guy with the battleship New Jersey. Look it up some time.
 
Oh stop. I was a Marine and a good one. If you were the soldier you think you are, you would have never said what you just did. At least ACT like a professional. Nobody with half a brain who spent time overseas acts like this - unless they got the boot and never lost the attitude. Or have a severe PTSD issue.
 
Heavy Duty said:
Go ahead and put the liberal under your name because thewy are the only wussies that scream racism where there is none.
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But there clearly was. But go ahead and continue on your overly aggressive conserative campaign, that will inevitably get you nowhere because people would prefer a civil debate. Not to mention my political ideologies are not at all liberal. I just feel people should view others, regardless of race or religion, with the utmost respect. In what way is that negative? Is it because you as a white male wish to have supremacy?
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
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You make yourself hard to quote :/.
Yes you do, but you are unaware of it. It's driven by dope.
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That is not at all true. I am completely aware of my surroundings and don't just sit in my house all day. The biggest gang we have are the Diablos which are just a bunch of punks who don't cause much damage.
You are the beneficiary of White Privilege. That makes you racist according to lefist ideology.
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No. What makes you racist is enjoying white privelege and wanting to keep it. Not being subject to it.
America's obligation is to Americans like the residents of Detroit. America has no obligation to the people of Mexico who have violated American laws and taken the jobs that should be filled by Americans. The Mexican oligarchy is playing you for a fool. Screw that country.
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Why am I the fool? I in no way am in favor of the Mexican system or their government. I just have absolutely no problems against the people or them seeking help.
Did you go to public school in California after 1970? If so, the odds are that you were processed many times by incompetent teachers. That means that there are gaps in your education. You simply lack the perspective necessary to ascertain the inferiority of your own education.
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Such bold claims for having no ideas what schools I went to or what teachers I have had. In fact the majority of my teachers were moderates or conservatives. And by the time I was in highschool the only liberal ones had no authority over me because I already had my own opinion.
We fought for our children and ensured they did not encounter incompetent teachers. They received first rate educations. They went to charter schools.
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Incompetent is subjective. Not to mention the fact that this is irrelevant.
No.
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How apathetic and cold hearted. America destroyed their country for short term gain but you feel that fixing their economy, that would help America and Mexico is too much to ask?
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
The most recent Pew survey on the subject shows that the majority of the population of Muslim countries don't support Al Qaeda. Would you like to see it?
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The poll is called Pew Global Attitudes Project Muslim Survey

Sure, let's take a look at it. Admitedly I'm cherry-picking here, but the important thing is that all posted here is factual, and downright scary. And these are countries with relatively friendly populations (to the West). What if Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, et al less friendly were included in this survey ?

Question : Is It Good or Bad That Islam Plays a Part In Politics ?

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Egypt - 95%
Indonesia - 95%
Pakistan - 88%
Nigeria - 88%
Lebanon - 72%

Question : Gender Segregation in the Workplace

(Favor)
Pakistan - 85%
Egypt - 54%
Jordan - 50%
Nigeria - 49%

Question : Views of Harsh Punishments

Favor stoning people who commit adultery
Egypt - 84%
Jordan - 86%
Pakistan - 76%
Nigeria - 51%
Indonesia - 30%

Whippings/Cutting off hands for theft
Pakistan - 82%
Egypt - 77%
Nigeria - 65%
Jordan - 58%
Indonesia - 36%

Favor Death Penalty for people who leave Muslim religion
Egypt - 84%
Jordan - 86%
Pakistan - 76%
Nigeria - 51%
Indonesia - 30%
 
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Protectionist said:
Terrorism starts in the mosque, the mosque that is in YOUR neighborhood « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog


FBI defends use of informants in mosques - World news - Terrorism - msnbc.com


Terrorist in Beslan school massacre came from Finsbury Park mosque in London: Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al Muhajiroun justifies targetting children & beheading non Muslims - calls for Abu Hamza's release - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

These are the tip of the iceberg.
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The first one is a blogspot written by an absolute idiot which is clear in the first sentence. The second one is just the FBI wanting to have more control and spy and again is not relevant. The third one is an isolated incident. So if you actually have legitimate proof, as in statistics, you should post them now. Because currently it is just displaying your massive ignorance.
 
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