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apdst said:
Yes! Muslim extremists operate within the Muslim community. It's up to the Muslim community, to work together and destroy that sanctuary. However, all we seem to hear from the Muslims is, "I don't condone terrorism, but I agree with why it happens".
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Yes, since EVERY muslim is an expert counter terrorist operative :roll:
 
apdst said:
Yes! Muslim extremists operate within the Muslim community. It's up to the Muslim community, to work together and destroy that sanctuary. However, all we seem to hear from the Muslims is, "I don't condone terrorism, but I agree with why it happens".
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Bull ****ing ****!

You ignore everytime a muslim speaks out, I've posted 1000 times the response of support of the US on 9/11, you ignore it, and post the video of the few celebrating it.

Whatever dude. Ignorance is bliss.

The governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan, Yemen and many others have an active role in fighting terrorism, yes there are some in those countries that fund it, there are some in your country and mine that fund it, but that does not implicate the entire muslim population.

That's too easy to say.
 
Your Star said:
Yes, since EVERY muslim is an expert counter terrorist operative :roll:
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Your words, not mine.

The point, that flew right over your head, obviously, is that the members of the Muslim community are the ones most likely to be able to obtain and gather information on extremists operating within their ranks. Therefore, they should be passing that info along, at every possible oppurtunity. The, "it ain't my problem", mentality is why Muslims keep getting a bad wrap.
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
California is already part of Mexico. Most Mexicans don't like Muslims. The Mexicans will run the Muslims out of California. Wear a veil in California and the Mexicans will give you the boot.
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Talk about Racism and overgeneralizations. I live in California and it does have a large hispanic population but calling it a part of Mexico is racist and clearly your lack of the Mexican system is flawed.
VanceMack said:
You can wear a veil...it just has to be the right color!
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Wow talk about racism...
 
Jetboogieman said:
Bull ****ing ****!

You ignore everytime a muslim speaks out, I've posted 1000 times the response of support of the US on 9/11, you ignore it, and post the video of the few celebrating it.

Whatever dude. Ignorance is bliss.

The governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan, Yemen and many others have an active role in fighting terrorism, yes there are some in those countries that fund it, there are some in your country and mine that fund it, but that does not implicate the entire muslim population.

That's too easy to say.
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Just like how supposedly Iraq supported terrorism is that why America invaded? Oh wait taht is becasue Iraq invaded Kuwait to liberate the Middle East from exploitation.... Then what country? Palestine? They are too busy being genocided by Israeli... The only people sponsoring terrorism is America by supressing the local population so America ensures the right to the oil to maintain a superpower role.
 
Your Star said:
Yes, since EVERY muslim is an expert counter terrorist operative :roll:
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He who wants to be my brother must act like my brother. American Muslims don't have to be counter-terrorist experts. They need to clearly, unambiguously and repeatedly express solidarity with all fellow Americans. It starts with providing insight into Muslim American threats.

This is happening. That's one of the reasons I haven't gone full blown anti-Muslim despite the repeated attempts at terrorism, and the occasional terrorist success. The existence of Americans like Ambassador Zalmay Khalilizad and Professor Fouad Adjami counter my prejudice as well.
 
apdst said:
Your words, not mine.

The point, that flew right over your head, obviously, is that the members of the Muslim community are the ones most likely to be able to obtain and gather information on extremists operating within their ranks. Therefore, they should be passing that info along, at every possible oppurtunity. The, "it ain't my problem", mentality is why Muslims keep getting a bad wrap.
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You act like mosques are nothing more than planning centers for terrorist plots. That there is a high enough percentage of American muslims who are extremist that the average American muslim would run into atleast one of them during their lifetime, and that most American muslim would even know how to identify suspicious terrorist activity. Your theory fails on all levels.
 
WeAreReborn said:
Talk about Racism and overgeneralizations. I live in California and it does have a large hispanic population but calling it a part of Mexico is racist and clearly your lack of the Mexican system is flawed.

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How close do you live to the Mexican gang problem? It's in my face. I understand racism. I don't care if you think I'm racist. I think you're racist. Do you still beat your wife? I accepted illegal Mexican aliens until I was overwhelmed. They are literally everywhere here. They have a major impact on the quality of life here.

The Mexicans coming here are not mechanical engineers, CPAs, etc. They are among the least educated, least skilled, and most impoverished people in the world. Mexico has simply shifted a large part of it's problem with poverty to California.

Most Mexicans educated in California are like most people who are educated here or who drop out. They are largely ignorant and unskilled.

You simply cannot have a welfare state with a porous border next to a third world country and expect the welfare state to succeed.
 
How close do you live to the Mexican gang problem?
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Then blame the gangs not the race. The city I live in is 60% hispanic and the majority of the city is poor. We don't have a moderate or even big gang problem.
Albert Di Salvo said:
I think you're racist.
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Why? Where do you derive this conclusion from?
Do you still beat your wife?
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Huh? I don't have and never had a wife. I also am for 100% women equality, hence my avatar...

The Mexicans coming here are not mechanical engineers, CPAs, etc. They are among the least educated, least skilled, and most impoverished people in the world. Mexico has simply shifted a large part of it's problem with poverty to California.
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Some may have a lack of education but I wouldn't call them unskilled. They are skilled at the work they create, it is all subjective on what skilled is. You are right they are often poor but if we claim to be of an utmost moral standard shouldn't we help them? Or at the very least make it so Mexico can become a thriving country again?

Most Mexicans educated in California are like most people who are educated here or who drop out. They are largely ignorant and unskilled.
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I live in a largely poor area of Southern California. Most people here, regardless of race, aren't ignorant. They know a lot about the problems of today and have their own solutions. By you saying most Californians are ignorant is truly representative of your unaccepting nature.

You simply cannot have a welfare state with a porous border next to a third world country and expect the welfare state to succeed.
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But if you made the third world country into a third world country shouldn't you hold some responsibility? After all, Mexico was becoming an industrial giant until NAFTA which absolutely decimated their economy and any hope of being independent.
 
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Your Star said:
You act like mosques are nothing more than planning centers for terrorist plots. That there is a high enough percentage of American muslims who are extremist that the average American muslim would run into atleast one of them during their lifetime, and that most American muslim would even know how to identify suspicious terrorist activity. Your theory fails on all levels.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses, is all we ever get. Apologies and excuses. No solutions, just excuses and how it's all our fault.
 
apdst said:
Excuses, excuses, excuses, is all we ever get. Apologies and excuses. No solutions, just excuses and how it's all our fault.
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You did not address her post at all.

All I I see is blame, blame, blame.

Whats your "solution".

Is it perhaps a final solution to the muslim question?

Because I mean, if you believe muslims are such a threat, what other solution could you possibly have?
 
Jetboogieman said:
You did not address her post at all.

All I I see is blame, blame, blame.

Whats your "solution".

Is it perhaps a final solution to the muslim question?

Because I mean, if you believe muslims are such a threat, what other solution could you possibly have?
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It's always like that, with you. Ain't it?

Are you a teenager, or what?
 
The bomb was supplied by the FBI and was fake. The guy was never any danger to anybody.
 
WeAreReborn said:
Talk about Racism and overgeneralizations. I live in California and it does have a large hispanic population but calling it a part of Mexico is racist and clearly your lack of the Mexican system is flawed.

Wow talk about racism...
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Go ahead and put the liberal under your name because thewy are the only wussies that scream racism where there is none.
 
Your Star said:
You act like mosques are nothing more than planning centers for terrorist plots. That there is a high enough percentage of American muslims who are extremist that the average American muslim would run into atleast one of them during their lifetime, and that most American muslim would even know how to identify suspicious terrorist activity. Your theory fails on all levels.
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Youre not a Muslim so how in the **** do you know what goes on inside a mosque? You take their word for it? Yes a fool is born every second.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You did not address her post at all.

All I I see is blame, blame, blame.

Whats your "solution".

Is it perhaps a final solution to the muslim question?

Because I mean, if you believe muslims are such a threat, what other solution could you possibly have?
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Yes we all know your excuse, blame right wing christians that havent done a terrorist attack in how long? But I bet I could post at least 5 muslim terrorist attacks yesterday.
 
Heavy Duty said:
Yes we all know your excuse, blame right wing christians that havent done a terrorist attack in how long? But I bet I could post at least 5 muslim terrorist attacks yesterday.
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Uh, May 31, 2009. Not terribly long ago, and some in those muslim countries where the attacks occur, consider every action of our military terrorist actions.
 
Summerwind said:
Uh, May 31, 2009. Not terribly long ago, and some in those muslim countries where the attacks occur, consider every action of our military terrorist actions.
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But unless youre a total moron you know better.

From our friendly and peaceful religion of Islam just last week.

2010.12.08 (Kohat, Pakistan) - A teen suicide bomber targets a crowd of Shia pilgrims at a bus stop, sending nearly two dozen to Allah, mostly women and children.
2010.12.07 (Tal Afar, Iraq) - Fundamentalists bomb a computer shop, killing an employee.
2010.12.07 (Varanasi, India) - A 2-year-old girl is left dead following a Mujahideen blast at a Hindu temple.
2010.12.06 (Baqubah, Iraq) - Three children bleed out when terrorists booby-trap a home.
2010.12.06 (Mohmand, Pakistan) - Two Holy Warriors massacre over forty innocents with a dual suicide blast at a gathering of tribal leaders in the name of 'enforcing Sharia.'
2010.12.05 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Four Holy Warriors bind and stab an elderly Christian couple to death in their home.
 
Heavy Duty said:
But unless youre a total moron you know better.

From our friendly and peaceful religion of Islam just last week.

2010.12.08 (Kohat, Pakistan) - A teen suicide bomber targets a crowd of Shia pilgrims at a bus stop, sending nearly two dozen to Allah, mostly women and children.
2010.12.07 (Tal Afar, Iraq) - Fundamentalists bomb a computer shop, killing an employee.
2010.12.07 (Varanasi, India) - A 2-year-old girl is left dead following a Mujahideen blast at a Hindu temple.
2010.12.06 (Baqubah, Iraq) - Three children bleed out when terrorists booby-trap a home.
2010.12.06 (Mohmand, Pakistan) - Two Holy Warriors massacre over forty innocents with a dual suicide blast at a gathering of tribal leaders in the name of 'enforcing Sharia.'
2010.12.05 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Four Holy Warriors bind and stab an elderly Christian couple to death in their home.
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So do you have the stats for the War on Terror's collateral damage for the same time period? Collateral damage = innocent civilians. Many would consider that terrorism since we are occupying their countries and killing their innocents often with bombs and drones and such.
 
Summerwind said:
So do you have the stats for the War on Terror's collateral damage for the same time period? Collateral damage = innocent civilians. Many would consider that terrorism since we are occupying their countries and killing their innocents often with bombs and drones and such.
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For one, we are not you. Dont forget that because you will never be WE. People like you dont have the guts to stand up and fight for your country. Two, if these countries stood up to the radical Muslims instead of hiding like roaches, giving all of them a bad name like America did when we kicked England out of our country, then they wouldn't have US over there policing there countries to root out the terrorists.

Want me to put up polls from Pew where Muslim countries support terrorism over non Muslim countries? Maybe if they wasn't part of the problem they wouldnt have to worry about us being there. Remember the War of Terror started when 19 MUSLIMS killed 3000 Americans. Funny during all the liberal defending of terrorists you seem to forgot we didnt start this war. But facts and liberals never mix.
 
Heavy Duty said:
For one, we are not you. Dont forget that because you will never be WE. People like you dont have the guts to stand up and fight for your country. Two, if these countries stood up to the radical Muslims instead of hiding like roaches, giving all of them a bad name like America did when we kicked England out of our country, then they wouldn't have US over there policing there countries to root out the terrorists.

Want me to put up polls from Pew where Muslim countries support terrorism over non Muslim countries? Maybe if they wasn't part of the problem they wouldnt have to worry about us being there. Remember the War of Terror started when 19 MUSLIMS killed 3000 Americans. Funny during all the liberal defending of terrorists you seem to forgot we didnt start this war. But facts and liberals never mix.
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Based on what do you believe I have never nor will ever fight for my country. Secondly, we enabled both Iraq and Afghanistan to continue their wicked ways before we decided we no longer liked them.

Most importantly, killing innocents is terrorism. Are you trying to tell me that if occupiers came to your community and carelessly killed the innocents there, that's not terrorism. I'd sure the hell feel terrorized.

You want to live by a double standard that is based in nationalism? Well, that tells me all I need to know.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Bull ****ing ****!

You ignore everytime a muslim speaks out, I've posted 1000 times the response of support of the US on 9/11, you ignore it, and post the video of the few celebrating it.

Whatever dude. Ignorance is bliss.

The governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan, Yemen and many others have an active role in fighting terrorism, yes there are some in those countries that fund it, there are some in your country and mine that fund it, but that does not implicate the entire muslim population.

That's too easy to say.
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They say frightenlingly little against Muslim extremists, and they do virtually nothing about them. Aside from giving them safe haven in virtually every country in the Middle East.

There's the politically correct liberal's position you take on this, then there's reality. It's a matter of which world you choose to live in.
 
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