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.....and yet, it didn't.
He wouldn't wear a condom. That's a capital offense. Off with his head.
You don't think the two have anythng in common, that they don't share intelligence?
Incredible!
Yes, that's perfectly rational. Tell me...if China did it, would it also be legal?
Which head?
I disagree. While I strongly support fixing up the vulnerabilities that led to the leaks, sharply curtailing the audience who can receive such info., etc., I believe it is essential for the U.S. to pursue Mr. Assange if it is to effectively deter future conduct along the lines of Wikileaks.
A lack of effort to hold Mr. Assange/Wikileaks accountable would undermine prospects for any credible deterrence regime
If China did it would it be considered spying?
I've suspected all along that you were a party girl. Now I know for sure.
I've never seen such a large gathering of jailhouse lawyers. Let's cut to the chase.
The Espionage Act and Patriot Act (which Obama renewed without change) are sweeping. America has a long arm statute so personal jurisdiction is no problem. If Assange falls into American hands he'll be caught in a web from which he will never emerge.
If this occurs, the effects on our image worldwide will truly be dire.
So you see zero value to the work that Assange has done in releasing information about more repressive regimes like Kenya and China? The world doesn't have a right to see that information? Our embarrassment trumps all?
Perhaps I'm tired of our deterrence regime (aka being the bullies of the world). That's not our role in the world, or at least, it shouldn't be. I'm fairly certain our founding fathers didn't envision our current "deterrence regime."
Sheer dumb luck. But you can't really see past your "Obama is the Devil" glasses, can you?
If this occurs, the effects on our image worldwide will truly be dire.
A far larger concern, for me, is the power that the federal government is accruing by designating routine information as classified and hiding it from the American public. No democracy (or constitutional republic) can function in that way. It completely undermines civil liberties, the rule of law, and the power of the citizenry.
Doesn't it worry you, this increasing power of the governmental agencies, to hide routine information from the American public, in the guise of protecting us? Why are you people so trusting of your government?
I don't think so. Every other country is asking themselves, "What would we do if it happened to us?" The answer many of those countries would come up with wouldn't be pretty.
A weak federal govt. isn't a threat. It's time for the federal govt. to become small and weak.
We already know what China would do...so of course, we should do what they'd do, right?
The fact that people are so readily calling for the U.S. to not only violate international law but the ideals of its own Constitution in apprehending one man is frankly very telling of the shape of things to come... or at least how the current players in power WANT things to be.
A federal government that can completely stifle public discourse by deeming certain topics "classified" is neither weak nor small. If you really wanted a small/weak federalist government, you'd see the dangers here.
This wouldn't happen to China. The Chinese are refreshingly ruthless. People don't screw with the Chinese.
I see the dangers, but they are remote.
This wouldn't happen to China. The Chinese are refreshingly ruthless. People don't screw with the Chinese.
Assange has released numerous documents highlighting the Chinese government's human rights abuses. What was their response?