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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

I like to see if someone has a perspective. people who have not raised a family are enaged in a successful career tend to have different perspectives than those of us who have

Fair enough, I am a student, therefore I do not, thankfully, have kids. But I think that equality, compassion and the disdain for elitism is universal.
 
California is an entitlement state and that has led to the 158+ billion dollar debt you have. TX is representative of how a state should be run as more and more California businesses are finding out and moving here.

Careful, if you keep inviting Californians to move to Texas, you will be overrun with liberals....
 
I never said the stimulus plan was a good idea at all.

who cares what you said

what matters is what the electorate said---tsunami tuesday, baby!

most house pickups since 1938, 6 senators, 10 gubs, 21 state leg's, 695 state reps, most in modern history

which, of course, explains the president's recent radical reawakening

the revolution is so passe
 
the lady, a week ago today: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/politics/05states.html

states and locals today face "several trillion dollars" of underfunding, ie, debt, most of it off the books

The pic of the "incinerator" is suspect. That looks like a power plant. An incinerator doesn't need a cooling tower...
never mind, it uses waste to make power, so it is a power plant. Those things stink, I used to take secure burn bags to one, had to watch it enter the fire before I left. Got to carry a .45 while escorting the burn bags...
 
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who cares what you said

what matters is what the electorate said---tsunami tuesday, baby!

most house pickups since 1938, 6 senators, 10 gubs, 21 state leg's, 695 state reps, most in modern history

which, of course, explains the president's recent radical reawakening

the revolution is so passe
Oh then excuse that response, I perceived it as a response to the income disparity comment.
 
Fair enough, I am a student, therefore I do not, thankfully, have kids. But I think that equality, compassion and the disdain for elitism is universal.

elitism is neither good nor bad. My nephew is in the special forces as a captain. They are the elite and that is a good thing. POliticians pretend to be elite and that is a bad thing
 
elitism is neither good nor bad. My nephew is in the special forces as a captain. They are the elite and that is a good thing. POliticians pretend to be elite and that is a bad thing

Yes elite according to merit is good, but elite in terms your policy objectives and what constituents you serve as a politician or leader is another.
 
elitism is neither good nor bad. My nephew is in the special forces as a captain. They are the elite and that is a good thing. POliticians pretend to be elite and that is a bad thing
I think one can be proud of their achievements and recognize their success, but can still stay humble. While treating others who many not be as successful with as much respect as they would treat someone in a better position. So if your nephew isn't egotistical and thinks he deserves more then anyone else I wouldn't call him an elitist.
 
weaning people off of handouts tends to make them into adults.

Right, they aren't going to get handouts in this state the are going to work for it and when they do, the benefit from their labors, no state income taxes, part time legislature leading to a pro business economic policy.
 
talk to the times

The State of Illinois is still paying off billions in bills that it got from schools and social service providers last year. Arizona recently stopped paying for certain organ transplants for people in its Medicaid program. States are releasing prisoners early, more to cut expenses than to reward good behavior. And in Newark, the city laid off 13 percent of its police officers last week.

While next year could be even worse, there are bigger, longer-term risks, financial analysts say. Their fear is that even when the economy recovers, the shortfalls will not disappear, because many state and local governments have so much debt — several trillion dollars’ worth, with much of it off the books and largely hidden from view — that it could overwhelm them in the next few years.

Some of the same people who warned of the looming subprime crisis two years ago are ringing alarm bells again. Their message: Not just small towns or dying Rust Belt cities, but also large states like Illinois and California are increasingly at risk.

Municipal bankruptcies or defaults have been extremely rare — no state has defaulted since the Great Depression, and only a handful of cities have declared bankruptcy or are considering doing so.

But the finances of some state and local governments are so distressed that some analysts say they are reminded of the run-up to the subprime mortgage meltdown or of the debt crisis hitting nations in Europe.

Analysts fear that at some point — no one knows when — investors could balk at lending to the weakest states, setting off a crisis that could spread to the stronger ones, much as the turmoil in Europe has spread from

As the downturn has ground on, some of the worst-hit cities and states have resorted to fiscal sleight of hand to stay afloat, helping them close yawning budget gaps each year, but often at great future cost.

Few workers with neglected 401(k) retirement accounts would risk taking out second mortgages to invest in stocks, gambling that the investment gains would be enough to build bigger nest eggs and repay the loans.

But that is just what Illinois, which has been failing to make the required annual payments to its pension funds for years, is doing. It borrowed $10 billion in 2003 and used the money to invest in its pension funds. The recession sent their investment returns below their target, but the state must repay the bonds, with interest. The solution? Illinois sold an additional $3.5 billion worth of pension bonds this year and is planning to borrow $3.7 billion more for its pension funds.

It is the long-term problems of a handful of states, including California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York, that financial analysts worry about most, fearing that their problems might precipitate a crisis that could hurt other states by driving up their borrowing costs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/politics/05states.html
 
I think one can be proud of their achievements and recognize their success, but can still stay humble. While treating others who many not be as successful with as much respect as they would treat someone in a better position. So if your nephew isn't egotistical and thinks he deserves more then anyone else I wouldn't call him an elitist.

not an elitist but elite.

striving to be elite is good

we need to encourage more people to strive to be the best they can be-rather then creating the opiate of state sponsored mediocrity
 
You make a lot of people look foolish.

they do it to themselves

they don't know what's going on, too busy arguing their narcissistic talking points, products of ego, like plato in his cave

it's hard to debate a link
 
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they do it to themselves

they don't know what's going on, too busy arguing their narcissistic talking points, products of ego, like plato in his cave

it's hard to debate a link

OMG THE ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE! truely you are the almighty!!!
 
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Yes I have heard of her, why?
 
Summa Cum Laude from Princeton. Yea shes a twit alright lol
 
that's her, as progressive as they come

her crashing constituency is about all that remains for us to contend with
 
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yes progressives and liberals are super annoying
 
Summa Cum Laude from Princeton. Yea shes a twit alright lol

great legs-great education crazy ideas. classic lefty intellectual who has no clue
 
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