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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

Conservative said:
I know that this may come to a total and complete surprise to you but Bush isn't in office any more and according to the lastest information the public isn't happy with the current occupant and his tax policies.

Most Americans Say They
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intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, the shrub is gone, but the stench lingers...
Obama will add his stink, and it will linger.
Hell, there is still stink from Reagan, the man who deregulated too much,and left the banks in charge of their own supervision/regulation...his stench permeates the GOP party so much that we now have a splinter group "Tea Party" trying to clean up the GOP....
 
UtahBill said:
intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, the shrub is gone, but the stench lingers...
Obama will add his stink, and it will linger.
Hell, there is still stink from Reagan, the man who deregulated too much,and left the banks in charge of their own supervision/regulation...his stench permeates the GOP party so much that we now have a splinter group "Tea Party" trying to clean up the GOP....
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Since there is only one qualified candidate for public office that you like and support, why don't YOU run? Everyone else you are going to whine about.
 
How about this. Let the Bush tax cuts expire for Everyone making 250 00 + and cut capital gains tax by 50%...
 
Conservative said:
Since there is only one qualified candidate for public office that you like and support, why don't YOU run? Everyone else you are going to whine about.
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You are not whining? Name your poison, who do you want? Please be realistic, Palin is not a viable candidate...
as for me, I am not allowed to run, I passed both the intellect test and the sanity test...and my birth certificate is out of New Jersy, and that makes it highly suspect.
Who is it that, according to you, I think is the only one qualified?

BTW, I got a call yesterday from Romney's PAC. They wanted money. I told them that Milt is out of touch with the common man, that I would have voted for him last time, but McCain got the nod. Now, he is too beholden to the party to really care about leading the country. He won't even speak ill of Palin....
 
Jetboogieman said:
How about this. Let the Bush tax cuts expire for Everyone making 250 00 + and cut capital gains tax by 50%...
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so people who work very hard and have high salaries are going to get really screwed over?

why not a flat tax ?
 
UtahBill said:
You are not whining? Name your poison, who do you want? Please be realistic, Palin is not a viable candidate...
as for me, I am not allowed to run, I passed both the intellect test and the sanity test...and my birth certificate is out of New Jersy, and that makes it highly suspect.
Who is it that, according to you, I think is the only one qualified?

BTW, I got a call yesterday from Romney's PAC. They wanted money. I told them that Milt is out of touch with the common man, that I would have voted for him last time, but McCain got the nod. Now, he is too beholden to the party to really care about leading the country. He won't even speak ill of Palin....
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I want a free enteprise, pro busienss candidate from either side and since it won't be coming from the Democrat side then I will wait to see who the option are. All have baggage but like with every election I will vote for the one with the closest overall views to my point of view. In 2000, Bush vs. Gore, I voted for Bush, 2004, Bush vs. Kerry, I voted for Bush, 2008 McCain vs. Obama, I voted for McCain. Did those candidates that I voted for have baggage, you bet, but the alternative was much worse.

Right now, ANY Republican would be better than Obama. He didn't have the qualifications and experience to be President then and nothing has changed. I will vote for the better candidate and whoever it is will be better than Obama.
 
Jetboogieman said:
How about this. Let the Bush tax cuts expire for Everyone making 250 00 + and cut capital gains tax by 50%...
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how about the first part but increase Capital gains tax by 50%.
 
Taylor said:
You can do really well running a website like that? Just curious...
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Check Groupon. Google is considering or already bought them for like $1-5B dollars, insane. I don't know about her specific website, but if you build a large audience and are able to market through it, that's got value. if you can scale it and grow grow grow, seems like it could be acquisition worthy if we start seeing pooling of similar companies.
 
Mach said:
Check Groupon. Google is considering or already bought them for like $1-5B dollars, insane. I don't know about her specific website, but if you build a large audience and are able to market through it, that's got value. if you can scale it and grow grow grow, seems like it could be acquisition worthy if we start seeing pooling of similar companies.
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So far, the site is making a good income...
There is some company out there that is trying to buy the smaller sites. They have made an offer, but based on current income, the offer was way too little.
 
TurtleDude said:
what qualified sham wow to be president? winning a senate seat with subterfuge and dirty tricks?> Being a second string state legislator-a job he got by dirty tricks as well? being a community activist?
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Had a lot more to offer than that old man with a foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel and the airhead that would have taken over, who thinks that because you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska, that gives a person foreign policy experience - what a pair!

Unless you have some proof of what you say, you are just blowing smoke, as usual.
 
haymarket said:
how about the first part but increase Capital gains tax by 50%.
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Are you kidding? The Reps main interest are the rich and Big companies that outsource jobs Americans could do here, but they rather have chinese do them because they are cheaper and the rich can then line their pockets with more money. Regular Republicans think that eventually it is going to start trickling down, still waiting - hasn't happened!
 
mertex said:
Are you kidding? The Reps main interest are the rich and Big companies that outsource jobs Americans could do here, but they rather have chinese do them because they are cheaper and the rich can then line their pockets with more money. Regular Republicans think that eventually it is going to start trickling down, still waiting - hasn't happened!
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SOMETHING may trickle down, but it won't be money or jobs, it will be like living in the basement of an outhouse...
 
mertex said:
Are you kidding? The Reps main interest are the rich and Big companies that outsource jobs Americans could do here, but they rather have chinese do them because they are cheaper and the rich can then line their pockets with more money. Regular Republicans think that eventually it is going to start trickling down, still waiting - hasn't happened!
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so why do the uber-wealthy often support the dems and why are most of the richest senators Dems?
 
mertex said:
Are you kidding? The Reps main interest are the rich and Big companies that outsource jobs Americans could do here, but they rather have chinese do them because they are cheaper and the rich can then line their pockets with more money. Regular Republicans think that eventually it is going to start trickling down, still waiting - hasn't happened!
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Nothing moderate about you, just total liberalism at its worst. Most people have goals and dreams of becoming the very people you now seem to hate. What happened, didn't make it? Like far too many you don't have a clue as to how our economy works and that over 80% is made up of small businesses that you and other liberals seem to ignore but instead you focus on the very few that damage the reputation of the rich. You do know that charities depend on the rich? That people looking to become rich depend on? That the elderly shareholders rely on to supplement social security. Instead of focusing on the good, you want to promote the radical left ideology of redistribution of wealth and social justice portraying anyone that has more than you as evil and unethical. One of these days you too will grow up and realize what a fool liberalism has made of you. I did.
 
why did obama say it's the right thing to do?

why did bill clinton?
 
UtahBill said:
SOMETHING may trickle down, but it won't be money or jobs, it will be like living in the basement of an outhouse...
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As I recall you have done very well for yourself. Are you that much smarter than everyone else? If you can do it, why can't others? Trickle down worked for you.
 
Conservative said:
As I recall you have done very well for yourself. Are you that much smarter than everyone else? If you can do it, why can't others? Trickle down worked for you.
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No, trickle down was meant for those who are willing to settle for less. A large portion of the middle class does exactly that. They aim low in life, and hit the bulls-eye. They think they are doing well til the fertilizer hits the ventilator, both of which were paid for with credit cards.
I have 3 years of technical education from the Navy, and 3 years of college that I didn't really need. I want more out of life than the average person. And I got it, but it was 30 years of saving, investing, and living well within my means. Plus I married well. That is a big part of it. If you marry a "shopper", you are in deep doodoo....
No, I am not smarter than every one else, just smart enough to be above average ...
 
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UtahBill said:
No, trickle down was meant for those who are willing to settle for less. A large portion of the middle class does exactly that. They aim low in life, and hit the bulls-eye. They think they are doing well til the fertilizer hits the ventilator, both of which were paid for with credit cards.
I have 3 years of technical education from the Navy, and 3 years of college that I didn't really need. I want more out of life than the average person. And I got it, but it was 30 years of saving, investing, and living well within my means. Plus I married well. That is a big part of it. If you marry a "shopper", you are in deep doodoo....
No, I am not smarter than every one else, just smart enough to be above average ...
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Trickle down creates opportunities not guarantees. You took advantage of the opportunities, others haven't and are waiting for someone else to do it for them. Liberalism appeals to those people, wonder why it appeals to you?
 
UtahBill said:
No, trickle down was meant for those who are willing to settle for less.
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Those willing to settle for less so the rich can settle for more?
A large portion of the middle class does exactly that. They aim low in life, and hit the bulls-eye. They think they are doing well til the fertilizer hits the ventilator, both of which were paid for with credit cards.
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How can you speak for a large portion? Not to mention you have not addressed the growing poor class.

I have 3 years of technical education from the Navy, and 3 years of college that I didn't really need. I want more out of life than the average person. And I got it, but it was 30 years of saving, investing, and living well within my means. Plus I married well. That is a big part of it.
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"More out of life" What do you mean? As in you expect more or as in you just want more? Either way you should be happy and grateful for what you have and if you aren't in comfort work for it. Material goods aren't everything and if you are talking about relationships and meaning in life, then excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what that has to do with trickle down.

If you marry a "shopper", you are in deep doodoo....
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What if you don't know they are a "shopper" when you marry them and once you realize you are already in love and can't imagine divorcing them?
 
Conservative said:
Trickle down creates opportunities not guarantees. You took advantage of the opportunities, others haven't and are waiting for someone else to do it for them. Liberalism appeals to those people, wonder why it appeals to you?
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Can you demonstrate how it creates opportunities? Because like time I check under Regean, the poor classes income dropped over 9% and the top 5% of the rich rose by 27% on average.
 
Conservative said:
Trickle down creates opportunities not guarantees. You took advantage of the opportunities, others haven't and are waiting for someone else to do it for them. Liberalism appeals to those people, wonder why it appeals to you?
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Are you for real? NavyPride does that a lot, calling people liberals because they are to the left of him.
Is that how you feel? I put your sock puppets on ignore, looks like you are next.

Trickle down does not create opportunities across the board, what it does do is it creates a cadre of toadies, willing to shill for a few bucks off their taxes while the truly rich get exponentially more tax savings.
You don't want to tax the wages of the living rich or the estates of the dead rich.
And they love you for it...but don't expect to be invited to their homes for BBQ...
 
TurtleDude said:
so why do the uber-wealthy often support the dems and why are most of the richest senators Dems?
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Because to be a politician you have to be wealthy. It isn't limited to Democrats or Republicans. It just reflects the society and how it is run by the rich "elite".
 
WeAreReborn said:
Those willing to settle for less so the rich can settle for more?

How can you speak for a large portion? Not to mention you have not addressed the growing poor class.


"More out of life" What do you mean? As in you expect more or as in you just want more? Either way you should be happy and grateful for what you have and if you aren't in comfort work for it. Material goods aren't everything and if you are talking about relationships and meaning in life, then excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what that has to do with trickle down.


What if you don't know they are a "shopper" when you marry them and once you realize you are already in love and can't imagine divorcing them?
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you are the dumbest cluck I have seen on here in a long time....
your ignorance is hard to excuse, but it can be ignored...
 
UtahBill said:
Are you for real? NavyPride does that a lot, calling people liberals because they are to the left of him.
Is that how you feel? I put your sock puppets on ignore, looks like you are next.

Trickle down does not create opportunities across the board, what it does do is it creates a cadre of toadies, willing to shill for a few bucks off their taxes while the truly rich get exponentially more tax savings.
You don't want to tax the wages of the living rich or the estates of the dead rich.
And they love you for it...but don't expect to be invited to their homes for BBQ...
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and the welfare state is an opiate for the masses keeping them stoned and unwilling to strive for success
 
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