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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

Conservative said:
You want to continue to talk about jobs start another thread, this one is about that Middle class tax cut that the Democrats are promising.
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the jobs conservative the jobs....this thread has long morphed into a discussion about tax cuts for the rich and middle class....so where are the jobs? you promised job creation with the tax cuts....the tax cuts are still ongoing, where are the jobs...with your logic, we should have more jobs available than we have people to fill them. where are the jobs? would sure take care of that unemployment problem if we had all these jobs you promised would be created...where are the jobs??
 
Conservative said:
Quite an accomplishment for a "dumb" Texan who has been out of office for 2 years? Would love to have you explain that and what exactly the Democrat Congress has been doing the past 4 years? For years I kept hearing how dumb Bush was but amazingly he was able to convince a Democrat Congress to destroy the economy and people like you buy it?
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I never accused Bush of being dumb. Democrats never fixed the economy because the are too busy kowtowing to populist reactionaries like you who don't know what is in their own best interest. I don't like either party. Democrats are spineless cowards, but the Republicans are downright evil.
 
The Prof said:
wow, so many apologists just losing it

you're entitled to your view, of course

but it's not even fringe, it's a splinter
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Wrong. Even Alan Greenspan agrees with me on that one. The fringe are the people who are still clinging to debunked dogmas like Reaganomics.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Democrats never fixed the economy because the are too busy kowtowing to populist reactionaries like you who don't know what is in their own best interest. I don't like either party. Democrats are spineless cowards, but the Republicans are downright evil.
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Guy Incognito said:
Wrong. Even Alan Greenspan agrees with me on that one. The fringe are the people who are still clinging to debunked dogmas like Reaganomics.
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Oh, well if some guy on the internet says it, it must be true! TWO POINT OH

Why do so few people make even a cursory effort to back up their claims?
 
randel said:
the jobs conservative the jobs....this thread has long morphed into a discussion about tax cuts for the rich and middle class....so where are the jobs? you promised job creation with the tax cuts....the tax cuts are still ongoing, where are the jobs...with your logic, we should have more jobs available than we have people to fill them. where are the jobs? would sure take care of that unemployment problem if we had all these jobs you promised would be created...where are the jobs??
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Since jobs are a major concern of yours, how many jobs will be created by raising the taxes on the top 2%, focus, randel, focus! If it is jobs and raising taxes is so important how many jobs will be created?
 
Conservative said:
Since jobs are a major concern of yours, how many jobs will be created by raising the taxes on the top 2%, focus, randel, focus! If it is jobs and raising taxes is so important how many jobs will be created?
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apparently the current tax breaks produced no jobs...why extend it?
 
randel said:
the rich have their tax cut, where are the jobs you promised that would create? where conservative, where? and i know i have you pegged right.
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Wow ! You are still here ! If I didn't know better, I would say that you are just some punk troll with little intellect and a complete lack of ability to bring anything to the conversation except to post drivel over ... and over ... and over ...

I hope you are not the typical modern liberal. Has our school system failed that badly ?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The deal failed and now the tax cuts will end for all groups

Provided the republican congress does not go and spend all the extra revenue the deficit should come down
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So the Govt. spends extra revenue that they haven't gotten yet? How did they do that? Very interesting and still trying to figure out how allowing people to keep more of what they earn is an expense to the govt? Is that Canadian economics? Seems to me with all those liberal elites in this Administration they would be able to figure out how much lost revenue they would get because of tax cuts and cut spending accordingly? I know you can explain to me where I am wrong.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Wow ! You are still here ! If I didn't know better, I would say that you are just some punk troll with little intellect and a complete lack of ability to bring anything to the conversation except to post drivel over ... and over ... and over ...

I hope you are not the typical modern liberal. Has our school system failed that badly ?
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troll??? you? don't be so hard on yourself.:2wave:
 
Guy Incognito said:
RightinNYC, why are you always demanding citations for well-known facts?

Just don't keep up with the news, eh?
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The fact that Greenspan said something (that doesn't actually support your claim) wasn't what I was asking for evidence to support. I was asking for evidence to support the much broader and much dumber arguments that:

1) Reaganomics was obviously the cause of our current crisis, and
2) Democrats "didn't fix" the economy because they were worrying about populists.
 
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randel said:
apparently the current tax breaks produced no jobs...why extend it?
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But jobs are your big issue and as you have been given jobs were created. 6.5 million during the Bush years. Obama has a net loss of 4 million so raising taxes on the top 2% must be the answer. How many will be created by raising taxes?
 
Conservative said:
But jobs are your big issue and as you have been given jobs were created. 6.5 million during the Bush years. Obama has a net loss of 4 million so raising taxes on the top 2% must be the answer. How many will be created by raising taxes?
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you have claimed that the tax cut created jobs...where are they? results matter!!
 
Conservative said:
So the Govt. spends extra revenue that they haven't gotten yet? How did they do that? Very interesting and still trying to figure out how allowing people to keep more of what they earn is an expense to the govt? Is that Canadian economics? Seems to me with all those liberal elites in this Administration they would be able to figure out how much lost revenue they would get because of tax cuts and cut spending accordingly? I know you can explain to me where I am wrong.
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Was I talking about the present?

The tax cuts are set to expire now for all income groups for the next year correct? That will mean higher government revenues, and should the Republican congress, (who controls the purse strings according to many of your posts) does not go on a drunken sailor spending binge should result in the deficit decreasing. I think that would be a good thing dont you
 
Guy Incognito said:
Wrong. Even Alan Greenspan agrees with me on that one. The fringe are the people who are still clinging to debunked dogmas like Reaganomics.
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remember november 2, baby!
 
Guy Incognito said:
RightinNYC, why are you always demanding citations for well-known facts?

Just don't keep up with the news, eh?
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Let's help the liberal out here. Your article highlights Greenspan admitting his screw up with the housing bubble. As for the "failure of Reaganomincs", libtards can chew on this:

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Read 'em and weep. Reaganomics success. Obamanomics fail. You can tick that Obama red-line up to 9.8, btw.

And lastly, as for Republicans being evil .... better get some silver bullets and some wooden stakes ........ and be very afraid ... BOO !
 
randel said:
you have claimed that the tax cut created jobs...where are they? results matter!!
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Where are Obama's jobs ? He promised them, and instead has lost 4 million. Where are they liberals ? How do we get them by raising taxes on the rich ? Is there a libtard out there that can explain this ? Thanks.
 
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