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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

Hopefully the govt will spend it on improving infrastructure, jobs, education in the USA, instead of destroying some sandpit in the middle east...

education is not something the federal government ought to be screwing around with

save for the military academies, FBI academy etc
 
Show me a republican war that hasn't played a huge part in destroying our economy, killing off thousands of our young, increasing the national debt, etc. Both sides are to blame, no doubt. BTW, I suppose when you get old enough, you will turn down social security?

Republican war? You mean WWII, Korean War, WWI, Vietnam War?

Now why would I turn down SS since I made "contributions" for 35 years?
 
would you care to make a wager? money talks bs walks as they say

but you didn't deny my claim so I will take it that you are not much of a net tax payer
I don't give a rats ass either way what you think ...i'm not going to get into a pissing contest over who pays more.
 
Hopefully the govt will spend it on improving infrastructure, jobs, education in the USA, instead of destroying some sandpit in the middle east...

Were you taught that was the role of the Federal Govt? You seem really upset over the 100 billion a year spent on Afghanistan and Iraq Wars but not nearly as upset over the rest of the 3.5 trillion dollar budget, wonder why?
 
I don't give a rats ass either way what you think ...i'm not going to get into a pissing contest over who pays more.

good move, but it would really be great if we were able to see the truth behind people's postings. Those who whine that tax increases won't hurt the rich are almost always not rich. Same with those who say the rich can afford more tax hikes-it comes from the average taxpayer or the ultra wealthy.
 
Apparently you don't know taxes at all, Income taxes do not pay for roads, schools, law enforcement, fire, trash collection. That is what excise taxes on gasoline and property taxes were supposed to pay. This seems to be the root of your problem.

Income taxes fund the following

Defense
International Affairs
Gen. Science, Space
Energy
Natural resources/env
Agriculture
Commerce
Transportation
Community Dev
Education/Train/Social
Health
Veterans Benefits
Justice
General Govt.
Net Interest
don't believe we specified what type of taxes...but, claim it as a 'victory' if you wish.
 
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good move, but it would really be great if we were able to see the truth behind people's postings. Those who whine that tax increases won't hurt the rich are almost always not rich. Same with those who say the rich can afford more tax hikes-it comes from the average taxpayer or the ultra wealthy.
common sense, if i'm worth millions of dollars, i'm really not gonna miss a couple of % raise in taxes..pocket change.
 
don't believe we specified what type of taxes...but, claim it as a 'victory' if you wish.

It is indeed a victory since the topic of this thread is Middle Class tax cuts relating to Income taxes not use taxes. All you can do is try and divert to other use taxes to try and tie them all together in hopes of making yourself feel better. What you are showing however is something entirely different.
 
I don't give a rats ass either way what you think

LOL!

then why do you keep asking him?

with all due respect, you appear to be kinda losing it a bit to me

but, again, go for it

make yourself happy
 
common sense, if i'm worth millions of dollars, i'm really not gonna miss a couple of % raise in taxes..pocket change.

Of course you aren't because I doubt you are in that economic class but you as usual miss the main point and that is the principle of the matter. What right does the govt. have to take money from one class and spend it the way they deem necessary? When you allow that to happen you open the door for more abuse of your own personal income.
 
It is indeed a victory since the topic of this thread is Middle Class tax cuts relating to Income taxes not use taxes. All you can do is try and divert to other use taxes to try and tie them all together in hopes of making yourself feel better. What you are showing however is something entirely different.
if it makes you happy, enjoy it. you have had so few 'victories' here anyway.
 
The class envy and demonization of profit and wealth has to stop as all that does is promote bigger govt. and thus the loss of freedom.

Screw all this BS about class envy and the size of government. Can you guys ever say anything that is not a bumper sticker cliche?
 
LOL!

then why do you keep asking him?

with all due respect, you appear to be kinda losing it a bit to me

but, again, go for it

make yourself happy
hmmm...try posting the entire exchange, instead of snipping it....
 
I suppose when you get old enough, you will turn down social security?

after being forced to pay into it 700 a month for 50 years?

are you crazy?

everyone's gonna be first in line to get back that plump 1400 a month

unless they raise the retirement age again
 
try posting the entire exchange

i pretty much did:

where are the jobs?

in texas

i don't give a rat's behind about texas

LOL!

stay up
 
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I ask again since there has not yet been an honest answer:

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
 
common sense, if i'm worth millions of dollars, i'm really not gonna miss a couple of % raise in taxes..pocket change.

obviously you are not worth much. People who attain that sort of wealth normally didn't get there by pissing away dollars left and right.

you do know that the planned tax hikes mean a 10% hike in the amount of taxes on earned income people will pay and a 100% or more increase on taxes on dividends.

If someone is a retiree with 300K in dividend income what do you think their taxes will rise to? more than a few percentage points
 
Screw all this BS about class envy and the size of government. Can you guys ever say anything that is not a bumper sticker cliche?

It's the Left who is so asscoiated with bumper stickers, big government and class envy that the it's impossible to separate one from the next.

However, if you have anything of any depth to add, I'd certainly like to read it.
 
Could you put up a link to support your claims about the rich now vs. when the draft was in place ?

You say you served more. I didn't ask you how long you served, but thank you for the service. What I asked for was a link to support your earlier claim.

Now its two claims waiting to be substantiated.

You didn't ask me, but you told me yours, why? Were you bragging or complaining? I also did 10 years reserves, and I get a military retirement that is taxed.

Look up tax rates in 1964, explain how our economy was doing so well then.

As poor as I was for so many years, I have never escaped paying income taxes. Not only should we repeal the Bush Tax cuts for the rich, we should raise the current rates at every level. That, along with budget cuts in social and military industry entitlements (including foreign aid), should help with deficits and debt.
Read the following link, see what General Westmoreland has to say...

Teachable Moment -
 
I ask again since there has not yet been an honest answer:

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?

sadly no one is talking about cutting taxes for the rich

all that is being discussed is keeping in place tax rates that have been around for almost a decade and the top rate that has been the norm for most of the last thirty years
 
I ask again since there has not yet been an honest answer:

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
i answered!!!!:mrgreen:
 
You didn't ask me, but you told me yours, why? Were you bragging or complaining? I also did 10 years reserves, and I get a military retirement that is taxed.

Look up tax rates in 1964, explain how our economy was doing so well then.

As poor as I was for so many years, I have never escaped paying income taxes. Not only should we repeal the Bush Tax cuts for the rich, we should raise the current rates at every level. That, along with budget cuts in social and military industry entitlements (including foreign aid), should help with deficits and debt.
Read the following link, see what General Westmoreland has to say...

Teachable Moment -

given the dems cater to the voters by spending spending and more spending your solution will only make things far worse
 
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