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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

And yours is based on a belief that most don't earn their money fairly. You certainly have a perverted view of how our economy works and thus seem to promote destroying it because of the problems created by a few

In the past fifty years alone, the government has supported systematized discrimination, propped up dictatorial regimes world-wide, committed assassinations, torture, and wars of aggression, all for the personal financial benefit of the upper 1%. And yet you think this is earning money fairly? Who's got the perverse worldview?
 

Don't you find it interesting that those that have made it now want to destroy the very system that helped them create their own wealth? All that is posted is theory that ignores human behavior and incentive. What those posts show are naive comments based upon the distorted opinion that the Federal Govt. needs the money more than the individual taxpayer and that they will apply any additional income to the debt. Please give me an example of when that has ever happened in modern history? And Please don't use Clinton as an example as we have threads that have disproved that, the debt went up every year during the Clinton years.
 
In the past fifty years alone, the government has supported systematized discrimination, propped up dictatorial regimes world-wide, committed assassinations, torture, and wars of aggression, all for the personal financial benefit of the upper 1%. And yet you think this is earning money fairly? Who's got the perverse worldview?

That cetainly is your opinion so again tell me how the rich keeping more of what they earn hurts you or your family?
 
That cetainly is your opinion so again tell me how the rich keeping more of what they earn hurts you or your family?

My opinion? Do you disagree that Jim Crow laws kept black people oppressed for generations? This is not an opinion question.
 
the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs that were supposed to be created? the argument against taxing the rich is that they are the 'job creators'...ok, they got the cut, where are the jobs? to quote conservative, results matter. your new here, research conservatives posts, and you will see a pattern from him, don't tax the rich, or give them tax cuts, and they will create jobs...where are the jobs?

Too lazy to go to bls.gov and see how many jobs were created? The rich are creating jobs in TX, maybe you ought to consider moving. That would mean taking personal responsibility which of course we cannot have.

I love Ohio, grew up there, but am totally depressed going back there based upon the economy that progressives have created. Your entire govt. was thrown out on their ass this past Nov. so let's see what the new govt. will do there. You seem to think that the Federal Govt. creates jobs, all the Federal Govt does is give the incentive to others through the tax code to do that. What the states do then is their choice. Yours chose poorly.
 
My opinion? Do you disagree that Jim Crow laws kept black people oppressed for generations? This is not an opinion question.

What do Jim Crow laws have to do with this thread topic and individuals keeping more of what they earn?
 
What do Jim Crow laws have to do with this thread topic and individuals keeping more of what they earn?

Jim Crow is just one of the reasons the rich didn't earn their money fairly.
 
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the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs that were supposed to be created? the argument against taxing the rich is that they are the 'job creators'...ok, they got the cut, where are the jobs? to quote conservative, results matter. your new here, research conservatives posts, and you will see a pattern from him, don't tax the rich, or give them tax cuts, and they will create jobs...where are the jobs?

The "Bush tax cuts" went into place eight years ago. Unemployment rates were relatively low until 2009.

What exactly are you talking about....??


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Too lazy to go to bls.gov and see how many jobs were created? The rich are creating jobs in TX, maybe you ought to consider moving. That would mean taking personal responsibility which of course we cannot have.

I love Ohio, grew up there, but am totally depressed going back there based upon the economy that progressives have created. Your entire govt. was thrown out on their ass this past Nov. so let's see what the new govt. will do there. You seem to think that the Federal Govt. creates jobs, all the Federal Govt does is give the incentive to others through the tax code to do that. What the states do then is their choice. Yours chose poorly.
again conservative, texas has unemployment....WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED?? you have been hell bent on cutting off unemployment benefits, calling everyone receiving them lazy and no good, but yet, your chosen method of creating jobs, TAX CUTS, isnt working, but yet again, these people on unemployment are all just lazy no good slobs...yet, their are no jobs for them....where are the jobs conservative? RESULTS MATTER.
 
texas still has unemployment

LOL!

and winter is still wet

from the newseek link:

Where can you go to escape the recession? Try any of these 10 places. Oh, and be prepared to wear red.

Like a massive tornado, the Great Recession upended the topography of America. But even as vast parts of the country were laid low, some cities withstood the storm and could emerge even stronger and shinier than before. So, where exactly are these Oz-like destinations along the road to recovery? If you said Kansas, you’re not far off. Try Oklahoma. Or Texas. Or Iowa. Not only did the economic twister of the last two years largely spare Tornado Alley, it actually may have helped improve the landscape.

NEWSWEEK has compiled a list of the 10 American cities best situated for the recovery. These are places where the jobs are plentiful, and the pay, given the lower cost of living, buys more than in bigger cities. In other words, places unlike much of the rest of the country. The cities, most of which lie in the red-state territory of America’s heartland, fall into three basic groups. There’s the Texaplex—Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston—which has become the No. 1 destination for job-seeking Americans, thanks to a hearty energy sector and a strong spirit of entrepreneurism. There are the New Silicon Valleys—Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; Salt Lake City; and urban northern Virginia—which offer high-paying high-tech jobs and housing prices well below those in coastal California. And then there are the Heartland Honeys—Oklahoma City, Indianapolis, and Des Moines, Iowa—which are enjoying a revival thanks to rising agricultural prices and a shift toward high-end industrial jobs.

Cutting the Unemployment Line Unlike the Sun Belt states and cities along the East and West coasts, these locales not only grew during the boom of the mid-2000s, they suffered least in the Great Recession. The fact that they are mostly in red states should give the newly ascendant GOP comfort as it tries to deliver on its election-year promise to right the economy. That isn’t to say all the blue states will remain weather-beaten. Wall Street, heady with cheap money, has sparked a return to opulence. And the strong demand for high-tech products and services will likely keep places like Boston, San Francisco, and San Diego from devolving into fancy versions of Detroit. Yet given the results of last week’s election and the increasing odds against another bailout of state governments, the near-broke and highly regulated blue states will be hard-pressed to generate much new employment.

For sheer economic promise, no place beats Texas. Though the Lone Star State’s growth slowed during the recession, it didn’t suffer nearly as dramatically as the rest of the country. Businesses have been flocking to Texas for a generation, and that trend is unlikely to slow soon. Texas now has more Fortune 500 companies—58—than any other state, including longtime corporate powerhouse New York.

are you familiar with evan thomas?
 
Jim Crow is just one of the reasons the rich didn't earn their money fairly.

Aw, quit whining and take care of yourself. You can always find mistakes in U.S. history but we have the best economy in the world. If you aren't successful in it, you only have yourself to blame.
 
The "Bush tax cuts" went into place eight years ago. Unemployment rates were relatively low until 2009.

What exactly are you talking about....??


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Proving a point
 
again conservative, texas has unemployment....WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED?? you have been hell bent on cutting off unemployment benefits, calling everyone receiving them lazy and no good, but yet, your chosen method of creating jobs, TAX CUTS, isnt working, but yet again, these people on unemployment are all just lazy no good slobs...yet, their are no jobs for them....where are the jobs conservative? RESULTS MATTER.

I didn't promise any jobs and anyone that promises a job to the ignorant is foolish. How long do you think the unemployed ought to get benefits, it is two years now. Doesn't look to me like you have a clue. Guess growing up someone always GAVE you something so now you expect that to continue. Where does personal responsibliity rest in your world?

TX has unemployment yet thousands are flocking to this state. Over half the jobs created in the last two years have been created in TX.
 
Aw, quit whining and take care of yourself. You can always find mistakes in U.S. history but we have the best economy in the world. If you aren't successful in it, you only have yourself to blame.

This is the kind of mental laziness I take exception to. Apparently you haven't imagination sufficient to understand the vast interconnectedness of the government and the economy. If you don't think that things like Jim Crow were immoral, then I'm not going to waste my time talking to you. And if you don't think that the immoral policies of the government, many of which (like the prohibition against gay marriage) are still in effect today, then you have your head in the sand. And if you think that a government set up to benefit the rich in the same way a casino always favors the house is "fair," then you're a hypocrite of the first order and have no right to whine about taxes being "unfair."
 
again conservative, texas has unemployment....WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED?? you have been hell bent on cutting off unemployment benefits, calling everyone receiving them lazy and no good, but yet, your chosen method of creating jobs, TAX CUTS, isnt working, but yet again, these people on unemployment are all just lazy no good slobs...yet, their are no jobs for them....where are the jobs conservative? RESULTS MATTER.

No one is hell bent on cutting off unemployment benefits. The topic at hand is how long can someone continue to collect them. Currently the limit is 2 years. (which strikes me as a little excessive)

How long do you think the benefits should be provided? 3 years? 5 years? And where should the money come to pay for them.....???


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This is the kind of mental laziness I take exception to. Apparently you haven't imagination sufficient to understand the vast interconnectedness of the government and the economy. If you don't think that things like Jim Crow were immoral, then I'm not going to waste my time talking to you. And if you don't think that the immoral policies of the government, many of which (like the prohibition against gay marriage) are still in effect today, then you have your head in the sand. And if you think that a government set up to benefit the rich in the same way a casino always favors the house is "fair," then you're a hypocrite of the first order and have no right to whine about taxes being "unfair."

Stop with the intellectual psychobabble. If you put more effort into taking on personal responsibility and bettering yourself what someone else makes or how they make it wouldn't concern you so much. Now what does any of this have to do with the thread topic? If you think you can make a poor person better off by taking from someone else you live in the wrong country.
 
I didn't promise any jobs and anyone that promises a job to the ignorant is foolish. How long do you think the unemployed ought to get benefits, it is two years now. Doesn't look to me like you have a clue. Guess growing up someone always GAVE you something so now you expect that to continue. Where does personal responsibliity rest in your world?

TX has unemployment yet thousands are flocking to this state. Over half the jobs created in the last two years have been created in TX.
you want to cut benefits off to these people, but yet, their are no jobs for them..what the hell are they supposed to do conservative? listen up conservative...NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MEANS TO UP AND MOVE TO YOUR BELOVED STATE OF TEXAS, OR TO ANOTHER AREA TO LOOK FOR A JOB... you have stated repeatedly that tax cuts create jobs, again, i ask you WHERE THE HELL ARE THE JOBS? You speak of 'personal responsibility' like you have a trademark on it...i know several 'responsible' people conservative, who are out of work,(and as hard as this may be for you to believe, several are conservative) and who are on the phone , looking through the help wanted ads, doing everything in their power to find work...they know the unemployment benefits won't last forever, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ON UNEMPLOYMENT FOREVER...as for the rest of your condescending post, screw you...i've earned what i have, but i understand life is not perfect, and that good people suffer hard times, and sometimes need a helping hand. again conservative, where are the jobs?
 
you want to cut benefits off to these people, but yet, their are no jobs for them..what the hell are they supposed to do conservative? listen up conservative...NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MEANS TO UP AND MOVE TO YOUR BELOVED STATE OF TEXAS, OR TO ANOTHER AREA TO LOOK FOR A JOB... you have stated repeatedly that tax cuts create jobs, again, i ask you WHERE THE HELL ARE THE JOBS? You speak of 'personal responsibility' like you have a trademark on it...i know several 'responsible' people conservative, who are out of work,(and as hard as this may be for you to believe, several are conservative) and who are on the phone , looking through the help wanted ads, doing everything in their power to find work...they know the unemployment benefits won't last forever, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ON UNEMPLOYMENT FOREVER...as for the rest of your condescending post, screw you...i've earned what i have, but i understand life is not perfect, and that good people suffer hard times, and sometimes need a helping hand. again conservative, where are the jobs?

I don't see an answer to the question, how long should someone be colecting unemployment benefits for right now it is two years? Are you ever going to start thinking for a change?

Everyone does have the means to do whatever they want. People from Detroit just moved to TX after the husband spent weeks upon weeks here working and driving back and forth to Detroit. He found a job and now has brought the family to TX. It only takes initiative which apparently many don't have.

Sorry your state got so screwed up but you only have your govt. to blame along with the unions and that is a shame as I love Ohio. Texas is a right to work state, low taxes and low unions. Seems to be working.
 
I don't see an answer to the question, how long should someone be colecting unemployment benefits for right now it is two years? Are you ever going to start thinking for a change?

Everyone does have the means to do whatever they want. People from Detroit just moved to TX after the husband spent weeks upon weeks here working and driving back and forth to Detroit. He found a job and now has brought the family to TX. It only takes initiative which apparently many don't have.

Sorry your state got so screwed up but you only have your govt. to blame along with the unions and that is a shame as I love Ohio. Texas is a right to work state, low taxes and low unions. Seems to be working.
last time i checked brainiac, 'initiative' aint paying the bills...jobs do that...so again, where are the jobs conservative? the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs?
 
All 'right to work' state means is that you have a right to work for a bad wage and in bad conditions. Its a euphemism really
 
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