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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

Hopefully the govt will spend it on improving infrastructure, jobs, education in the USA

sorry, that's a political dead end

Just don't call it a 'stimulus' - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

and that's BEFORE tsunami tuesday

Obama Told David Brooks There Was No Such Thing as ‘Shovel Ready’ - By Daniel Foster - The Corner - National Review Online

instead of destroying some sandpit in the middle east...

BBC News - Obama to send 30,000 more US troops to Afghanistan
 
I ask again since there has not yet been an honest answer:

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?

Why can't the lower 20% find work?
 
Were you taught that was the role of the Federal Govt? You seem really upset over the 100 billion a year spent on Afghanistan and Iraq Wars but not nearly as upset over the rest of the 3.5 trillion dollar budget, wonder why?

100 billion a year? dream on....
we are STILL paying for Vietnam, and will be a long time paying for subsequent wars.
 
It's the Left who is so asscoiated with bumper stickers, big government and class envy that the it's impossible to separate one from the next.

However, if you have anything of any depth to add, I'd certainly like to read it.

Baloney pal. half of what you post is taken from a bumper sticker next to a "don't tread on me" stupid snake.
 
Why can't the lower 20% find work?

Are you going to answer MY question or are you going to give me more of your bumper sticker fertilizer?
 
Right, liberals want to define fair share by whatever sells to their base yet they never offer specifics, just rich is bad. Notice how they never talk about the money the rich give to charities but they have no problem pointing to the very few that give free enterprise and capitalism a bad name.

They also fail to mention the jobs created by the rich. People who have jobs supplied by the rich, pay income taxes.
 
you mean like "shovel ready jobs?"

LOL!

a shovel ready job is scooping up all the BS sham wow and his idiotic administration has crapped all over this country
 
I love Ohio
As someone that lived in Ohio for 13 years all I can say is:

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Seriously, I don't care who you are what you do, what your political affiliation is, Ohio is one of the ****tiest places anyone could go. If anyone on this board is thinking of going to Ohio for any reason let it be for COSI, Cedar Point, or the various museums or zoos. For living purposes stay the hell away from it. Most the people no matter what they believe are a bunch of tards.
 
As someone that lived in Ohio for 13 years all I can say is:

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Seriously, I don't care who you are what you do, what your political affiliation is, Ohio is one of the ****tiest places anyone could go. If anyone on this board is thinking of going to Ohio for any reason let it be for COSI, Cedar Point, or the various museums or zoos. For living purposes stay the hell away from it. Most the people no matter what they believe are a bunch of tards.

we consider Northern KY to be one of the neighborhoods of Cincinnati. Pretty similar. The funniest thing is going to Louisville and listening to people affect an accent that would have done Alabama circa 1920 proud though they are only 5 miles south of Indiana
 
Declaration of War in the United States Republican vs Democrat


Vietnam War: Democratic
Multinational Force in Lebanon: Republican
Persian Gulf War: Democratic
2001 war in Afghanistan: Split Republican and Democratic (Democratic turn for majority)
Iraq War (2002): Split Republican and Democratic (Republican turn for majority)



Military Engagements Authorized By United Nations
Korean War-President Harry S Truman: Democratic
Multinational Force in Lebanon-President Ronald Reagan: Republican
Gulf War-President George Bush: Republican
Bosnian War-President Bill Clinton: Democratic
2001 war in Afghanistan-President George W. Bush: Republican
Haiti/MINUSTAH-President George W. Bush: Republican


close to 50/50, but the more recent ones are clearly mostly by the republican side of the padded cell....
 
They also fail to mention the jobs created by the rich. People who have jobs supplied by the rich, pay income taxes.

Warren Buffet says trickledown doesn't work, and he is smarter about such things than you and me by a long shot...
 
As someone that lived in Ohio for 13 years all I can say is:

roflcopter.gif


Seriously, I don't care who you are what you do, what your political affiliation is, Ohio is one of the ****tiest places anyone could go. If anyone on this board is thinking of going to Ohio for any reason let it be for COSI, Cedar Point, or the various museums or zoos. For living purposes stay the hell away from it. Most the people no matter what they believe are a bunch of tards.

I happen to like going to Cleveland for a couple of days. Michael Symon has some great restaurants, you can catch a pro game, and there is both the church where THE DEERHUNTER was filmed and the house from A CHRISTMAS STORY. And you have the R&Roll Hall.

Newport KY, right across from Cinci has a great aquarium. Appreciate what it there.

Okay - now back to the savaging.
 
Warren Buffet says trickledown doesn't work, and he is smarter about such things than you and me by a long shot...

Buffett's honesty when it comes to imposing higher taxes on others is quite suspect. Lionizing a guy who ingratiates himself to the dem power brokers is rather silly
 
Warren Buffet says trickledown doesn't work, and he is smarter about such things than you and me by a long shot...

So Warren Buffet is smarter at spending your money than you are? Interesting, why don't you then send your money to him and allow him to tell you how much you need on a daily purpose and have him send you what he feels is necessary?
 
Buffett's honesty when it comes to imposing higher taxes on others is quite suspect. Lionizing a guy who ingratiates himself to the dem power brokers is rather silly
why do you consider him 'suspect'?
 
Declaration of War in the United States Republican vs Democrat


Vietnam War: Democratic
Multinational Force in Lebanon: Republican
Persian Gulf War: Democratic
2001 war in Afghanistan: Split Republican and Democratic (Democratic turn for majority)
Iraq War (2002): Split Republican and Democratic (Republican turn for majority)



Military Engagements Authorized By United Nations
Korean War-President Harry S Truman: Democratic
Multinational Force in Lebanon-President Ronald Reagan: Republican
Gulf War-President George Bush: Republican
Bosnian War-President Bill Clinton: Democratic
2001 war in Afghanistan-President George W. Bush: Republican
Haiti/MINUSTAH-President George W. Bush: Republican


close to 50/50, but the more recent ones are clearly mostly by the republican side of the padded cell....

I don't see an answer to the question, you have such outrage over the 100 billion a year spent on the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars but not much on the other 3+ trillion spent on the budget. Take out the 100 billion a year spent on the war and you would be happy?
 
Are you going to answer MY question or are you going to give me more of your bumper sticker fertilizer?

This was your last post addressed to me.
Baloney pal. half of what you post is taken from a bumper sticker next to a "don't tread on me" stupid snake.

Where's the question?

Now perhaps you cans answer why the lower 20% can't find work.
 
As someone that lived in Ohio for 13 years all I can say is:

roflcopter.gif


Seriously, I don't care who you are what you do, what your political affiliation is, Ohio is one of the ****tiest places anyone could go. If anyone on this board is thinking of going to Ohio for any reason let it be for COSI, Cedar Point, or the various museums or zoos. For living purposes stay the hell away from it. Most the people no matter what they believe are a bunch of tards.

To each their own, it was a great place to grow up learning midwestern values and work ethic, something that many here today don't understand.
 
for any of the economic conservatives here

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
 
why do you consider him 'suspect'?

lets see

he can afford massive tax hikes and demand that everyone in the top 2% face tax hikes

he whines that his secretary-whose entire income is salary-pays an overall rate than he does because he Structures his compensation so that his salary is extremely LOW compared to similarly situated executives and his income from Dividends and Capital gains makes up most of his compensation so he structured his compensation so most of it is at the lowest taxed form of income.

he also brays how great the death tax is (mainly because it frees up rare property and other things for people like him to buy) yet he has set up his estate so the government gets nothing when he dies.
 
lets see

he can afford massive tax hikes and demand that everyone in the top 2% face tax hikes

he whines that his secretary-whose entire income is salary-pays an overall rate than he does because he Structures his compensation so that his salary is extremely LOW compared to similarly situated executives and his income from Dividends and Capital gains makes up most of his compensation so he structured his compensation so most of it is at the lowest taxed form of income.

he also brays how great the death tax is (mainly because it frees up rare property and other things for people like him to buy) yet he has set up his estate so the government gets nothing when he dies.

so he is a traitor to your class... or at least the class you tell us you are a member of.
 
for any of the economic conservatives here

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?

well we know that tax hikes aren't going to improve the job situation of that group and its not going to decrease the deficit given that the dems want to increase social spending so what good does a tax hike do other than make the envious feel good that the evil rich are getting soaked some more

however tax hikes do hurt things if applied only to the rich because the average voter will again feel that curing the economic woes is the duty of the rich and the average voter will feel no need to punish politicians who continue to spend and spend and spend
 
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