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Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

I bet you still hold a grudge against someone from your past to this day. And "if you ever saw that person again you would let them have it"! Right? Now dont tell me that you have never said the exact same thing before because if you do then you would be lying. This man had the opportunity to "have them have it" and did. How is that any different from what you have said you would like to do to someone from your past?

What is so sad and pathetic is that there are so many of you here that would come to the defense of a rapist of children. Disgusting.

That's BS and you know it.

If you still hold grudges for that long, then there is something wrong with you - victim or not. And before you try to say I'm defending a child molester - I can criticize this guy because I was a victim. You don't move on with your life if you're holding 35-year-long grudges. You get on with your life when you seek help and realize that just because someone did something to you when you were a child doesn't mean you have to keep losing your whole life.

This guy is going to jail (likely) because he's STILL playing victim 35 years later. I gave that up when I was 19 and I've got a great life.

I'm sick of people like you who want survivors to still play victim our whole lives. You want us to be ashamed, scarred, angry, and violent. I prefer being well-adjusted, having a successful career, and a great family. I got there by moving on with my life. Not by holding grudges and taking out revenge.

How dare you suggest that because I believe that vigilantism is foolish that I would defend a child molester. It's only people like you who (likely) haven't been victimized who create and celebrate these revenge fantasies. Life's a lot easier when you stop being a victim. It's just too bad this guy didn't have someone help him move on.
 
That's BS and you know it.

If you still hold grudges for that long, then there is something wrong with you - victim or not. And before you try to say I'm defending a child molester - I can criticize this guy because I was a victim. You don't move on with your life if you're holding 35-year-long grudges. You get on with your life when you seek help and realize that just because someone did something to you when you were a child doesn't mean you have to keep losing your whole life.

This guy is going to jail (likely) because he's STILL playing victim 35 years later. I gave that up when I was 19 and I've got a great life.

I'm sick of people like you who want survivors to still play victim our whole lives. You want us to be ashamed, scarred, angry, and violent. I prefer being well-adjusted, having a successful career, and a great family. I got there by moving on with my life. Not by holding grudges and taking out revenge.

How dare you suggest that because I believe that vigilantism is foolish that I would defend a child molester. It's only people like you who (likely) haven't been victimized who create and celebrate these revenge fantasies. Life's a lot easier when you stop being a victim. It's just too bad this guy didn't have someone help him move on.



So what would you say to your predator if you met him in an elevator?
 
was he prosecuted?

I didn't report until after the statute was up.

But the reason I didn't report it was because I was afraid - not of him - but of the responses of family and friends. There were too many signals that it would kill my family. Once I entered therapy in college, I told my family. At that point I could tell them without shame and let them know it wasn't their fault and they took it much better (in my imagination, at least) than they would've when I was 9. Plus, to be honest, I had no real words for it at 9. At that point, my family approached his family, reported it calmly and his family intervened and sent him to a treatment program. Obviously, I can't know if it succeeded. I can only hope. I know the success rate is only about 25%, but there's still hope.

But the point is - revenge doesn't do anyone any good.

What I advocate is that we stop encouraging people to continue being victims. They estimate that 1 in 6 people are vicitims of childhood sexual abuse. If we all behaved that way, think about what that would do to our society. It's a much better life if you let go and move on. Apparently this guy got a bunch of money from the Catholic Church. If so, he should have spent it on therapy.
 
I didn't report until after the statute was up.


So he, basically learns that he can get away with it? me? I'd hurt him, hurt him bad.... Then again. That's me. :shrug:


But the reason I didn't report it was because I was afraid - not of him - but of the responses of family and friends. There were too many signals that it would kill my family. Once I entered therapy in college, I told my family. At that point I could tell them without shame and let them know it wasn't their fault and they took it much better (in my imagination, at least) than they would've when I was 9. Plus, to be honest, I had no real words for it at 9. At that point, my family approached his family, reported it calmly and his family intervened and sent him to a treatment program. Obviously, I can't know if it succeeded. I can only hope. I know the success rate is only about 25%, but there's still hope.

But the point is - revenge doesn't do anyone any good.

Treatment program? Sounds like a vacation.


What I advocate is that we stop encouraging people to continue being victims. They estimate that 1 in 6 people are vicitims of childhood sexual abuse. If we all behaved that way, think about what that would do to our society. It's a much better life if you let go and move on. Apparently this guy got a bunch of money from the Catholic Church. If so, he should have spent it on therapy.


I think it would teach our society that child predators would not be tolerated. :shrug:
 
I didn't report until after the statute was up.

But the reason I didn't report it was because I was afraid - not of him - but of the responses of family and friends. There were too many signals that it would kill my family. Once I entered therapy in college, I told my family. At that point I could tell them without shame and let them know it wasn't their fault and they took it much better (in my imagination, at least) than they would've when I was 9. Plus, to be honest, I had no real words for it at 9. At that point, my family approached his family, reported it calmly and his family intervened and sent him to a treatment program. Obviously, I can't know if it succeeded. I can only hope. I know the success rate is only about 25%, but there's still hope.

But the point is - revenge doesn't do anyone any good.

What I advocate is that we stop encouraging people to continue being victims. They estimate that 1 in 6 people are vicitims of childhood sexual abuse.
If we all behaved that way, think about what that would do to our society. It's a much better life if you let go and move on. Apparently this guy got a bunch of money from the Catholic Church. If so, he should have spent it on therapy.


if we all behaved that way it might be an effective disincentive for pedophiles to believe they can victimize and get away with it
 
I didn't report until after the statute was up.

But the reason I didn't report it was because I was afraid - not of him - but of the responses of family and friends. There were too many signals that it would kill my family. Once I entered therapy in college, I told my family. At that point I could tell them without shame and let them know it wasn't their fault and they took it much better (in my imagination, at least) than they would've when I was 9. Plus, to be honest, I had no real words for it at 9. At that point, my family approached his family, reported it calmly and his family intervened and sent him to a treatment program. Obviously, I can't know if it succeeded. I can only hope. I know the success rate is only about 25%, but there's still hope.

But the point is - revenge doesn't do anyone any good.

What I advocate is that we stop encouraging people to continue being victims. They estimate that 1 in 6 people are vicitims of childhood sexual abuse. If we all behaved that way, think about what that would do to our society. It's a much better life if you let go and move on. Apparently this guy got a bunch of money from the Catholic Church. If so, he should have spent it on therapy.

You dont know **** about me but I know this about you.

You should be the spoke person for NAMBLA where you could sand you in front of them and say " rape and abuse us children all you want because the majority will be just like me and do nothing about it."

And once again you attack the victim instead of the lowlife that raped a child.
 
I bet you still hold a grudge against someone from your past to this day. And "if you ever saw that person again you would let them have it"! Right? Now dont tell me that you have never said the exact same thing before because if you do then you would be lying. This man had the opportunity to "have them have it" and did. How is that any different from what you have said you would like to do to someone from your past?

What is so sad and pathetic is that there are so many of you here that would come to the defense of a rapist of children. Disgusting.

don't assume anything about me, and don't read anything into my posts that isn't there.
 
You dont know **** about me but I know this about you.

You should be the spoke person for NAMBLA where you could sand you in front of them and say " rape and abuse us children all you want because the majority will be just like me and do nothing about it."

And once again you attack the victim instead of the lowlife that raped a child.

wow....you should be banned for this.
 
If he were to be banned wouldn't that mean we think of ff guy as a "victim"?

Though a bit harsh i see his point even if his tact was lacking.

i think his comments were totally uncalled for in the context, and i think he's a disgusting poster. heavy duty, tiny mind, is blaming filmguy for not reporting the crime.
 
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Film fest gu says he's not a victim. Dont disrespect him by making him one. Thats all im sayin.

i can't make anyone a victim, i'm saying this poster is disgusting. i didn't report it, i don't do that. but he's WAY out of line.
 
i can't make anyone a victim, i'm saying this poster is disgusting. i didn't report it, i don't do that. but he's WAY out of line.



If you accept ffguy's non-victim mentality and i do. There is nothing out of the normal offensive about this.
 
You dont know **** about me but I know this about you.

You should be the spoke person for NAMBLA where you could sand you in front of them and say " rape and abuse us children all you want because the majority will be just like me and do nothing about it."

And once again you attack the victim instead of the lowlife that raped a child.

This is soooo out of line. How can you hold yourself out as someone who has empathy and sympathy for children who are molested? Poster FilmFest has lived and breathed it. He's grown beyond it, God bless 'im. For you to attack him in this manner...well, one can only hope we'll hear no more from you on this thread.
 
i think his comments were totally uncalled for in the context, and i think he's a disgusting poster. heavy duty, tiny mind, is blaming filmguy for not reporting the crime.
I think you should be banned for that.......but you are a liberal...
 
This is soooo out of line. How can you hold yourself out as someone who has empathy and sympathy for children who are molested? Poster FilmFest has lived and breathed it. He's grown beyond it, God bless 'im. For you to attack him in this manner...well, one can only hope we'll hear no more from you on this thread.
Anyone can claim anything on the net to try and make a piont.

I believe .05% of what I read on a forum. I cannot believe that someone is stupid enough to take people at their word.
 
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Knock it off folks. Talk about the topic, not each other. There will be no more warnings, thread bans and infractions for any more of it.
 
You dont know **** about me but I know this about you.

You should be the spoke person for NAMBLA where you could sand you in front of them and say " rape and abuse us children all you want because the majority will be just like me and do nothing about it."

And once again you attack the victim instead of the lowlife that raped a child.

Says the man to someone who was a vicitm.

But you're right. You would know what's better than someone who's been through it.

And you think calling a victim the SAME as a perpetrator is somehow a good way to make a point.

There is ample research that the harm on victims is continued by those who surround them. When parents of victims constantly talk of shame, horror, disgust, etc., the child frequently can't differentiate that the shame, horror, and disgust is directed at the act and not them. Thus, they respond be feeling ashamed, horrified, and disgusted with themselves.

Your disgust with sexual abuse of children is justified. It should be punished heavily in a court of law and I wish to hell that there was no statute of limitations on the crime.

But your belief in how the victim to respond is actually just a continuation of emotional harm.

To be honest, this thread has raised more anger in me than I've had in years and it's because people like you - who have no idea what the suffering is actually like pretend that you know what's right for the victim and pretend that you care about the children who suffer.

You only care about your moral outrage instead of what actually helps victims heal. Violence didn't heal this guy. It made his life worse. Unless, you consider $25,000 bond and threat of jail time and court costs worth the brief bit of release he may have gained by beating up the perp.

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about here. I do. I've lived it. You haven't. It's obvious that you haven't because you'd never compare a victim to a member of NAMBLA if you had. No one who has experienced it would be so ****ing disgusting as to say something that vulgar, hateful, spiteful, and liablous.
 
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