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Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

danarhea said:
The priest got what he deserved. Period. My wish would be to be on a jury, because I would be open to any tactic of jury nullification by the man's attorney.
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A jury trial would be best. Because all it takes is one person to say he's not guilty and bam, he goes free. And that one person would probably sympathize with him.
 
Goshin said:
That's in pretty poor taste, Dana. It's not like the "pedophile priest problem" even implicates 1% of them.


We don't know a lot here. Were charges ever filed? Was an accusation even made?
It is entirely possible that the attacker is just a nut job who fixated on someone innocent as the scapegoat for his problems. We have no sure knowlege that this priest did anything to this man.

Yeah, if it actually happened as he claims then I have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I'd need to see some evidence that this isn't just some whackjob who is out of his head.
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They could ask his brother.
 
Arcana XV said:
Oh, I see. You're one of those. Yeah, okay then, have fun with your vigilante hero worship. :lol:
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Vigilantes get done what the police don't.
 
Solace said:
They could ask his brother.
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They could ask the brother.

Or they could ask the Priests own family, it says that many of his family cut contact with him because he also abused his own Nieces and Nephews when they were as young as 3.

Sick bastard.
 
Orion said:
I understand why the guy did what he did, but taking the law into his own hands and victimizing his abuser - and thus perpetuating the cycle of abuse - is not the way to go. True justice does not involve revenge. If he had a genuine case against the priest he should have gone about it another way. Kudos to him though for confronting his abuser to his face... that takes guts. I just don't condone the violent action as it doesn't accomplish anything.
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Because evidence of rape often stays around for 30+ years....
 
Orion said:
I understand why the guy did what he did, but taking the law into his own hands and victimizing his abuser - and thus perpetuating the cycle of abuse - is not the way to go. True justice does not involve revenge. If he had a genuine case against the priest he should have gone about it another way. Kudos to him though for confronting his abuser to his face... that takes guts. I just don't condone the violent action as it doesn't accomplish anything.
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I guess you don't know that statute of limitations would have long run out by now. :roll:
 
Solace said:
Vigilantes get done what the police don't.
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Great, then they should have the guts to face up to the consequences of what they do. If you want to go all vigilante on someone's ass, go right ahead. That ex-priest is scum and I'm certainly not gonna feel sorry for him. But I'm also not going to turn my back on the law. Don't start crying when the cops come knocking on your door is all I'm saying.
 
If it was the right guy I got no sympathy 65 or not. However, I would be interested in knowing what took him so long?

Tim-
 
Heavy Duty said:
I think this man has been a threat to this young man life every since he molested him. You dont think everytime this man tries suicide its not a direct threat against his life because of what this man has done to him? Too bad he didnt do the world a favor by walking up to him and put a hole dead center of his forehead.
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Why are you assuming the absolute guilt of the priest without proof? The priest knows and the man who assualted him know but we do not.
 
jambalaya said:
Why are you assuming the absolute guilt of the priest without proof? The priest knows and the man who assualted him know but we do not.
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You think this man kicked his ass just because? I dont think anyone unless the were totally crazy would beat the **** out of a priest without cause.
 
liblady said:
seems the victim received a large settlement from the church. you can understand the pain, and the rage, but that doesn't give him the right to break the law.
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Laila said:
They could ask the brother.

Or they could ask the Priests own family, it says that many of his family cut contact with him because he also abused his own Nieces and Nephews when they were as young as 3.

Sick bastard.
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Okay, I suppose I should have done some more reading. Apparently there is a reasonable suspicion that this priest was in fact guilty.

If I were on the jury, I would probably vote "not guilty" for the man then. I am not necessarily approving his action, but I understand it and wouldn't send him to prison for it.
 
Sorry...the priest gets no sympathy and should be arrested for what he did (if in fact true) - but vigilantism is just plain stupid.

Do you guys cheer on lynch mobs? What about drug cartels who take part in revenge killings and beatings?

It's no better. Just because you were the victim doesn't mean you get to mete out the justice. Not in a civilized society, anyway.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
Sorry...the priest gets no sympathy and should be arrested for what he did (if in fact true) - but vigilantism is just plain stupid.

Do you guys cheer on lynch mobs? What about drug cartels who take part in revenge killings and beatings?

It's no better. Just because you were the victim doesn't mean you get to mete out the justice. Not in a civilized society, anyway.
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So a d00d who has been living through hell because of this pedophile to you is the same as a drug cartel revenge killing?


Really?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So a d00d who has been living through hell because of this pedophile to you is the same as a drug cartel revenge killing?


Really?
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so, everyone who has been wronged should get their own revenge?
 
liblady said:
so, everyone who has been wronged should get their own revenge?
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I bet you still hold a grudge against someone from your past to this day. And "if you ever saw that person again you would let them have it"! Right? Now dont tell me that you have never said the exact same thing before because if you do then you would be lying. This man had the opportunity to "have them have it" and did. How is that any different from what you have said you would like to do to someone from your past?

What is so sad and pathetic is that there are so many of you here that would come to the defense of a rapist of children. Disgusting.
 
If I was the guy who got raped, I'd have done the same damned thing.

Not only that, but I would be willing to go to jail over beating him senseless.

I would look at those consequences as a badge of honor for doing what I felt was the most moral course of action.

Does that make me a violent savage in some people's eyes? Probably, but I don't care.
 
Under no circumstances will I defend the pedophile because there is no excuse for his actions, but I also cannot condone the brutality of this revenge attack.

It's hard to face the facts of this case because the statute of limitations has long ago run out, and any chance of legal action are way in the past, but we have to stand for something as Americans or we stand for nothing.

Had a pedophile ever gone after one of my children I would have been tempted to kill the some of a bitch, but we have got to use the laws we have to deal with this type of thing.

In this case there is no legal recourse for the victims and all this guy did was further destroy his life for a few minutes satisfaction.

His getting to call the accused into court to humiliate him will be a hollow victory when he's setting in jail for years.

I understand the urge for revenge but it was wrong.
 
Councilman said:
Under no circumstances will I defend the pedophile because there is no excuse for his actions, but I also cannot condone the brutality of this revenge attack.

It's hard to face the facts of this case because the statute of limitations has long ago run out, and any chance of legal action are way in the past, but we have to stand for something as Americans or we stand for nothing.

Had a pedophile ever gone after one of my children I would have been tempted to kill the some of a bitch, but we have got to use the laws we have to deal with this type of thing.

In this case there is no legal recourse for the victims and all this guy did was further destroy his life for a few minutes satisfaction.

His getting to call the accused into court to humiliate him will be a hollow victory when he's setting in jail for years.

I understand the urge for revenge but it was wrong.
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On the opposite side of the coin, the beating can represent closure for the victim allowing him to heal emotionally. If that healing occurs, he may be able to get out of jail in a couple of years and rebuild a better life.
 
molten_dragon said:
He absolutely should have been prosecuted for it. Yes, it was wrong of the priest to molest him as a kid, but that doesn't give him the right to take matters into his own hands 35 years later. We have a justice system for that.
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35 years later and the pedophile has not been brought to justice for his rape

the justice system failed this victim

hopefully, the younger man will insist on a trial whose outcome will be decided by a jury of his peers. and he will walk. the trial testimony should then be used to put the pedophile in prison

only then could we agree that the justice system (finally) worked
 
Tucker Case said:
If I was the guy who got raped, I'd have done the same damned thing.

Not only that, but I would be willing to go to jail over beating him senseless.

I would look at those consequences as a badge of honor for doing what I felt was the most moral course of action.

Does that make me a violent savage in some people's eyes? Probably, but I don't care.
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No, it makes you someone who accepts responsibility for their actions and is willing to face the consequences of same. There is nothing wrong with that in my book. You could go up one more notch if you were to call the cops and turn yourself in when you were done. :)
 
justabubba said:
35 years later and the pedophile has not been brought to justice for his rape

the justice system failed this victim

hopefully, the younger man will insist on a trial whose outcome will be decided by a jury of his peers. and he will walk. the trial testimony should then be used to put the pedophile in prison

only then could we agree that the justice system (finally) worked
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He had the chance to have this man put on trial about 10 years ago, but he settled with the religious organization instead. From the article:

Lynch and his younger brother settled with the Jesuits of the California Province, a Roman Catholic religious order, for $625,000 in 1998 after alleging that Lindner abused them in 1975 during weekend camping trips in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
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What Lynch needed more than anything, more than money or a trial, was the closure than comes from confronting his abuser and have him acknowledge and apologize for what he did. Obviously that didn't happened, as the priest claimed to not even remember him. This is what sent him over the edge. It's understandable from a psychological standpoint, but what he did to that old piece of **** is still wrong in the eyes of the law.
 
In 1998, this guy and his brother received a settlement of $625,000. The victim seems to have reported the abuse after the statute of limitations ran. That is very unfortunate, as this guy deserved to be in jail.

The victim has had a lifetime to beat the crap outa' this guy and chose to wait until he was an old man who couldn't defend himself. He should have used some of that settlement money to get himself some serious psychological help.

While I have sympathy for the 7-year-old boy who went through that hell, I have none for the 40-something guy that chose violence.

There is more to this story. I suspect the victim has allowed this episode in his life to ruin it. That's the really sad part.

The real perpetrator in most of these priest abuse cases is the Catholic Church itself.
 
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