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TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

yes, we all know claims equal fact. So, claims that 9/11 was an inside job must be fact. Gotcha.



I lost relatives and friends in the 9/11 attacks, if you wan't to be low class and compare the plethora of complaints akin to conspiracy theories, that's on you hero. You show no intellectual curiosity with your posts hero, all you show is this penchant for whining about semantics, and discrediting victims of the TSA.


I find your tactics and your pseudo-intellectualism lacking any merit, or value. You have avoided my points and lied about your reasonings to do so. Then in a pathetic attempt at one upmanship, you come after me with this 9/11 conspiracy comparison?


what a disgrace.
 
Different argument. Something can be unreasonable, even ineffective, and not equal the overreaction some here are expressing. It isn't molestation or anything like it. Once we argee to that, then we can actually have a reasonable debate.

Are you finished with your derailment attempt? We've listen to this **** for 71 ****ing pages now.

Diogenes, you seem to be onto something.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...efusing-security-check-71.html#post1059127825

Bomb-sniffing dogs, yes. What does the military use should have been Question #1 from Obama.
 
I lost relatives and friends in the 9/11 attacks, if you wan't to be low class and compare the plethora of complaints akin to conspiracy theories, that's on you hero. You show no intellectual curiosity with your posts hero, all you show is this penchant for whining about semantics, and discrediting victims of the TSA.


I find your tactics and your pseudo-intellectualism lacking any merit, or value. You have avoided my points and lied about your reasonings to do so. Then in a pathetic attempt at one upmanship, you come after me with this 9/11 conspiracy comparison?


what a disgrace.

So, now you throw out the fake outrage. And you call my point a pathic attempt. :roll:

Try just addressing the point. Claims don't equal fact. Never have and never will. Fondling actualy ahs to be fondling. Gropping ahs to actually be gropping. Molesting has to actually be molesting. Just as an inside job has to actually be an inside job. No amount of silliness changes that.
 
I will concede that folks touching your junk may not be "Groping", but us not so desperate for attention, do indeed see examples of "groping", that you convientley ignore. :pimpdaddy:

3 Women Say TSA Screeners Groped Vaginas During Pat-Down - Gothamist

US woman claims airport security singled her out because of her boobs


day after day, reports come in, and you close your eyes to protect your god-king. I'm sure this too you will claim as exxageration and gloat about "facts" when in fact you have none.

There isn't a single viable excuse for undressing a little boy.
 
I'm done as soon as the hyperbolic exaggeration stops. Stop doing it and I'll stop commenting on it. Seems fair to me. :coffeepap

You were done adding value after your first post.
 
Are the scanners even safe? A lot of doctors and such have been saying they're not proven to be so. According to one radiologist at Emory, probably 2-3 out of a 1000 people who are scanned will develop skin cancer from going through the full-body scanner, because of the radiation types used. Now, if a million people go through the scanners in one year... you do the math.

Second, if the scanners are so non-detailed, why do airports always assure people in news articles and videos, "Oh, the guy who's at the checkpoint doesn't see the image, and your face is blocked for privacy, the person viewing the image is in a locked booth far off, the images can't be saved or photographed, ect."

Seriously, it's not just what people do, it's what they don't do. If the images were blurry blobs, why not show them at the checkpoint? Like, "Hey, here's your scanning image right in front of you, you can see it with us"?

Perfectly valid point, and not a bad idea, actually. It might reduce some of the fear if the images were visible at least to the person being scanned.
 
You were done adding value after your first post.

How about being honest about the boy?

On November 19, a family was traveling through a TSA checkpoint at the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC). Their son alarmed the walk through metal detector and needed to undergo secondary screening. The boy's father removed his son's shirt in an effort to expedite the screening. After our TSO completed the screening, he helped the boy put his shirt back on. That's it. No complaints were filed and the father was standing by his son for the entire procedure.


It should be mentioned that you will not be asked to and you should not remove clothing (other than shoes, coats and jackets) at a TSA checkpoint. If you're asked to remove your clothing, you should ask for a supervisor or manager.

The TSA Blog: Response to "Young Boy Strip Searched by TSA"

Agian, there are real issues, but you and others keep clouding it by exaggerating. Honest debate doesn't accept this kind of dishonesty.
 
How about being honest about the boy?

On November 19, a family was traveling through a TSA checkpoint at the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC). Their son alarmed the walk through metal detector and needed to undergo secondary screening. The boy's father removed his son's shirt in an effort to expedite the screening. After our TSO completed the screening, he helped the boy put his shirt back on. That's it. No complaints were filed and the father was standing by his son for the entire procedure.


It should be mentioned that you will not be asked to and you should not remove clothing (other than shoes, coats and jackets) at a TSA checkpoint. If you're asked to remove your clothing, you should ask for a supervisor or manager.

The TSA Blog: Response to "Young Boy Strip Searched by TSA"

Agian, there are real issues, but you and others keep clouding it by exaggerating. Honest debate doesn't accept this kind of dishonesty.





Wow so specific about one incident. Perhaps you care to address the any of the last five I posted, Boo. :pimpdaddy:
 
Wow so specific about one incident. Perhaps you care to address the any of the last five I posted, Boo. :pimpdaddy:

Go back and read, I've done this before with others, like showing the hands were outside the pants. Agian, we can play this, or we can start being honest. There may be reason to oppose the procedures, but exaggerating is not the way to go, and there is no need to go over every single one. I've shown errors in the reporting, defined what fondling, groppping and molesting mean, and shown that these procedures don't meet those definitions. So, we really need to put this to bed and move on. Concede the point, stop the exaggerating and let's debate something honestly and of substance.
 
Go back and read, I've done this before with others, like showing the hands were outside the pants. Agian, we can play this, or we can start being honest. There may be reason to oppose the procedures, but exaggerating is not the way to go, and there is no need to go over every single one. I've shown errors in the reporting, defined what fondling, groppping and molesting mean, and shown that these procedures don't meet those definitions. So, we really need to put this to bed and move on. Concede the point, stop the exaggerating and let's debate something honestly and of substance.



Really? Which post numbers of mine did you address specifically. I am being honest, you are attacking the victims, hypocritically and dishonestly I might add. :pimpdaddy:
 
How about being honest about the boy?

On November 19, a family was traveling through a TSA checkpoint at the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC). Their son alarmed the walk through metal detector and needed to undergo secondary screening. The boy's father removed his son's shirt in an effort to expedite the screening. After our TSO completed the screening, he helped the boy put his shirt back on. That's it. No complaints were filed and the father was standing by his son for the entire procedure.


It should be mentioned that you will not be asked to and you should not remove clothing (other than shoes, coats and jackets) at a TSA checkpoint. If you're asked to remove your clothing, you should ask for a supervisor or manager.

The TSA Blog: Response to "Young Boy Strip Searched by TSA"

Agian, there are real issues, but you and others keep clouding it by exaggerating. Honest debate doesn't accept this kind of dishonesty.

No search necessary for little boys.
 
No search necessary for little boys.

Your opinion, certinaly, but not the evil you presented. Not molestation, not a strip search, and not the exaggeration you claimed. This is the point. ;)
 
Your opinion, certinaly, but not the evil you presented. Not molestation, not a strip search, and not the exaggeration you claimed. This is the point. ;)



Your opinion. The "victims" all 900 of them to you are liars and frauds, the TSA is a perfect entity. kudos to you boo. :whothere:
 
Your opinion, certinaly, but not the evil you presented. Not molestation, not a strip search, and not the exaggeration you claimed. This is the point. ;)

They shouldn't have done it. The fact that there is no profiling or protocol for children or elderly is troubling. They've had plenty of time to work this stuff out.
 
Your opinion. The "victims" all 900 of them to you are liars and frauds, the TSA is a perfect entity. kudos to you boo.

Not convinced of the 900 number either. And what someone feels isn't equal to what actually occured. As I keep showing with your examples. How many wrong before you understand the difference between complaing, feeling, claiming and actual facts?
 
They shouldn't have done it. The fact that there is no profiling or protocol for children or elderly is troubling. They've had plenty of time to work this stuff out.

Maybe, and on that overall point without the exaggeration, I might agree with you. So why can't you make the point without the exaggeration?
 
Not convinced of the 900 number either. And what someone feels isn't equal to what actually occured. As I keep showing with your examples. How many wrong before you understand the difference between complaing, feeling, claiming and actual facts?


ACLU Received Over 900 Complaints - “Enhanced” TSA Security Measures

I'm sorry you don't believe the ACLU's claims of 900 complaints. I really can't help you if you choose to be willfully ignorant. :pimpdaddy:




You know if I shoot you in the face as an example, according to law, all I have to believe is that I was truly in fear of my life for a self defense and justifiable homicide?

why are you attacking the victims here? Do you think rape victims are liars too? :roll:
 
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ACLU Received Over 900 Complaints - “Enhanced” TSA Security Measures

I'm sorry you don't believe the ACLU's claims of 900 complaints. I really can't help you if you choose to be willfully ignorant. :pimpdaddy:

yes, I saw that. I merely doubt 900 people actually called them without some coaxing from sommeone. But, that has nothing to really do with my point. It's one of those side things not meant as a serious challenege. I wonder if you can address the rest?
 
Maybe, and on that overall point without the exaggeration, I might agree with you. So why can't you make the point without the exaggeration?



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The Boo Radley shuffle. :lamo
 
yes, I saw that. I merely doubt 900 people actually called them without some coaxing from sommeone. But, that has nothing to really do with my point. It's one of those side things not meant as a serious challenege. I wonder if you can address the rest?


Wow. so when boo speculates, it's fact. But when victims file complaints, they must have been "coaxed"


Those rape victims dressing provacativley, those bitches deserved it too eh boo? :roll:
 
So, asking for someone to make the point without exaggeration is a shuffle? You have real funny ideas and views Rev. You really do. :lamo :lamo :lamo
 
Wow. so when boo speculates, it's fact. But when victims file complaints, they must have been "coaxed"


Those rape victims dressing provacativley, those bitches deserved it too eh boo? :roll:

Never said that. Reading comprehension is a valuable tool. You're making major leaps here. Major leaps.
 
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