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TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

Interesting. Why is America unable to use better technology to reduce invasive searches? Cost, I suppose?
 
Gibberish said:
And while you're searching the stereotype the fake nun with the c4 strapped to her chest boards safely.

Do you really think if a terrorist was going to board a plane in the US they are going to dress like this?

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How did the shoe bomber dress? Hmmm? Will the terrorist look like a 9 year old boy?
 
The Prof said:
why did tsa tell abc the "incident should not have happened, there should never be a situation where that happens?"

it's NOT fondling!

LOL!

cuz when you gross out abc...
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Ron Paul is calling for a boycott of the airlines.
 
Gibberish said:
And while you're searching the stereotype the fake nun with the c4 strapped to her chest boards safely.

Do you really think if a terrorist was going to board a plane in the US they are going to dress like this?
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Ok, I'll play....please tell me how many Nun's have been caught in the continental US, waiting to board a domestic commercial flight, with C-4 strapped to the chest board of their habbit, if they were even wearing a habbit?

You can't, it's insane, we are hassling the wrong people.


j-mac
 
predictably, the polls are flipping

it's not so much the happy hands of the tsa models which caused the assembled members of both party cauci to "avert their eyes" in the house basement yesterday

it was more this precipitous plummet in the polls, 42 points in a week

all so predictable, for pros

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mon...-61-oppose-new-airport-security-measures.html

On the eve of one of the nation's busiest travel days, a poll has found that 61% of likely voters oppose the newly enhanced security measures at the country's airports.

The poll by Zogby International of 2,032 likely voters also found that 48% said they would probably seek alternatives to flying because of the new measures.

Privacy rights groups, including the ACLU, have objected to the new measures, comparing the pat-down procedures to a "groping."

Of those polled by Zogby, 52% said the enhanced security measures would not prevent terrorist activities and nearly half (48%) said the measures violated passenger privacy rights. Another 32% said they considered the full-body scans and pat-down search procedures to be sexual harassment.

"It's clear the majority of Americans are not happy with TSA and the enhanced security measures recently enacted," pollster John Zogby said in a statement.
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the ACLU actually used the g-word, GROPING

america's marquee mouthpiece for CIVIL RIGHTS is gonna be gettin' an awful lotta POSTS, all thoughtfully CLICKED and SUBMITTED in swift spans of 60 seconds, something on the order of 1000 in the next 24 or so hours

LOL!

someone's reputation has been SHOT

the question is, will he or she demonstrate sufficient self respect to AMEND

as if ANYONE ELSE could possibly care

we just observe, my dear, and having done so for so long a time we are sometimes, perhaps even often, able to see the next shoe to fall even before its wearer puts it on in the morning

especially when it's obvious

after all, he wears the same shoes each day, walks the same service porch to his same garage

oh well, party on

happy thanksgiving, and good luck
 
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Tink, tink, tink....** Boo? Where ya at? .....Hello?


j-mac
 
Next step for body scanners could be trains, boats, metro - TheHill.com

file this in the basket with all the rest of the obstreperous babble emanating from the outta touch obamite bunch

right along with---closing gitmo, talking to the leaders of iran, moving ksm to manhattan, ending dadt, reforming immigration, instituting cap and trade, cobbling climate accords...

mere balloons, pointedly popped

yet oblivious obama obstinately blows, stubbornly straining to reinflate those ripped little pieces of plastic with prodigious puffs of presidential hot air

pathetic
 
j-mac said:
Tink, tink, tink....** Boo? Where ya at? .....Hello?


j-mac
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Right here. It doesn't matter who exaggerates, it is still exaggeration. When will you get that?
 
Boo Radley said:
It doesn't matter who exaggerates, it is still exaggeration.
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you can only speak for yourself, remember?

you don't speak for the ACLU

LOL!

GROPING

nor for house homeland security---runs afoul of PRIVACY and CIVIL RIGHTS

no filter equals no self respect
 
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j-mac said:
Proper? Would you let your 14 year old daughter go through that scanner, or succumb to a invasive pat down?
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I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down, when done properly is not invasive. So, don't exaggerate it.


I already did. Go back and read.
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If I believed you had, I wouldn't have asked that you do. What you presented was not a loss of freedom.

This smacks of blaming rape victims for their attacks, do you think that as well?
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It's nothing of the kind, just more hyperbole on your part.


So far. Those cases haven't been challenged in court yet, but I have the feeling they will. So you really can't speak authoritatively on it can you?
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Amazing that you believe only a court can speak on what a word means, on what reality is. No, we can look at it, see it and know it isn't what some claim.

Do you have any non shill sources?
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You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO? :coffeepap

Uh huh, and do you know how much training is given these TSA employees before they hand them a box of rubber gloves? I do.
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Not enough, but that is another issue. As I said, there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping.


What? The 4th amendment? or Air travel?
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No one has to be searched. They can go home. They take a bus. They can drive a car. No one has to be searched. I suspect that makes just a bit of difference. Do you believe this is the only place a person has to be searched before they can enter in the US?



Really? Where are your arrests? Where are your war crimes prosecutions? I would think if it were so damned clear to the entire world, then at least that would have happened by now.

j-mac
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As I have shown you countless times before, US citizens have been charged, have been prosecuted, have been court marshalled for waterborading. It is disingenuous to claim otherwise. We've been through this before.
 
Boo Radley said:
It doesn't matter who exaggerates, it is still exaggeration. When will you get that?
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So stick to your guns, even when faced with the opposite being said by an organization that you have long agreed with. Everybody is wrong but you eh? is that it?


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
So stick to your guns, even when faced with the opposite being said by an organization that you have long agreed with. Everybody is wrong but you eh? is that it?


j-mac
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No, I don;t always agree with the ACLU, just believe they serve a necessary function. But this is again the difference between us. You look at what people "SAY" while I look at what something actually IS.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, I'll play....please tell me how many Nun's have been caught in the continental US, waiting to board a domestic commercial flight, with C-4 strapped to the chest board of their habbit, if they were even wearing a habbit?

You can't, it's insane, we are hassling the wrong people.
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Let's take that a bit further. How many terrorists has TSA caught bringing any kind of weapon aboard a domestic flight since the agency was formed? Zero, that's how many.

How many terrorists or wannabes anywhere in the world for the last ten or fifteen years have NOT been Muslims?

Will the nudie booths detect anything that cannot be found with metal detectors or sniffer dogs?
 
The Prof said:
you can only speak for yourself, remember?

you don't speak for the ACLU

LOL!

GROPING

nor for house homeland security---runs afoul of PRIVACY and CIVIL RIGHTS

no filter equals no self respect
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No, I don't speak for the ACLU and don't claim to. But BS is BS no matter who says it. And I speak for me when I call it what it is.
 
Boo Radley said:
I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down, when done properly is not invasive. So, don't exaggerate it.
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Amazing. So you have no problem with a total stranger looking at your 14 year old daughter's naked body....Not me brother.

If I believed you had, I wouldn't have asked that you do. What you presented was not a loss of freedom.
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Denial ain't just a river Boo.

It's nothing of the kind, just more hyperbole on your part.
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Not true, and as much as it pains me to type this, the ACLU agrees with me.

Not enough, but that is another issue. As I said, there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping.
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So they don't give enough training to do the search properly, but you still hold fast that they are being done properly. Sorry dude, you lost this one.

You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO?
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No, I didn't ask for opinion pieces did I? There is your comprehension problem again relating to this issue.

No one has to be searched. They can go home. They take a bus. They can drive a car. No one has to be searched. I suspect that makes just a bit of difference. Do you believe this is the only place a person has to be searched before they can enter in the US?
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Yep, you are correct, they can take a train, or bus. But when they leave the airport they should also be prepared for an $11,000.00 fine.....Now that's freedom.

As I have shown you countless times before, US citizens have been charged, have been prosecuted, have been court marshalled for waterborading. It is disingenuous to claim otherwise. We've been through this before.
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You've disseminated quite a bit of false liberal accusation in the past, going on 6 years now to me....Pardon me if I can't keep all the BS straight. :2wave:


j-mac
 
Boo Radley said:
I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down
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no one (but you) cares what you think, this thread isn't about you

it's about the american people and their institutions

and the aclu and dem controlled house committee on homeland security trump the tiny napoleon

What you presented was not a loss of freedom.
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tell it sheila jackson lee

just more hyperbole on your part.
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no, it's hyperbole on the part of THE ACLU

Amazing that you believe only a court can speak on what a word means
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that's what dictionaries are for

LOL!

You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO?
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no, more like abc, ap, reuters, politico and THE ACLU

LOL!

As I said...
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LOL!

there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping (sic).
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there you go again, trying to speak for THE ACLU

LOL!

We've been through this before.
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LOL!

you're hilarious

no filter equals no self respect
 
j-mac said:
Amazing. So you have no problem with a total stranger looking at your 14 year old daughter's naked body....Not me brother.
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Have you looked at what is on the scanner screen? Seriously, you may wnat to see someone if you find that arousing.



Not true, and as much as it pains me to type this, the ACLU agrees with me.
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Which means what? Would you argue the ACLU is never wrong and is never hyperbolic?



So they don't give enough training to do the search properly, but you still hold fast that they are being done properly. Sorry dude, you lost this one.
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Most of what has been reported has not been fondling, or sexually inappropriate in any way. I believe only one was fopund to be inappropriate. So, yes, they do need more training, especially in how to deal with children, but no, a proper pat down is not fondling or gropping or feeling up.


No, I didn't ask for opinion pieces did I? There is your comprehension problem again relating to this issue.
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I didn't give you an opinion piece. I quoted a fact, and a fact check.

Yep, you are correct, they can take a train, or bus. But when they leave the airport they should also be prepared for an $11,000.00 fine.....Now that's freedom.
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Give it your best shot.

You've disseminated quite a bit of false liberal accusation in the past, going on 6 years now to me....Pardon me if I can't keep all the BS straight. :2wave:


j-mac
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J, that's just your spin and skewed world view. Your BS if you will. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
Would you argue the ACLU is never wrong and is never hyperbolic?
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of course not

a pro would not argue, he or she would instead OBSERVE that unlike insignificant you, THE ACLU matters

in other words, the white house has LOST

cuz when THE ACLU says GROPING...

LOL!

why, that's worse than GROSSING OUT the AMERICAN BROADCASTING CORP
 
The Prof said:
of course not

a pro would not argue, he or she would instead OBSERVE that unlike insignificant you, THE ACLU matters

in other words, the white house has LOST

cuz when THE ACLU says GROPING...

LOL!

why, that's worse than GROSSING OUT the AMERICAN BROADCASTING CORP
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I don't care about winning and losing, as this is not a game. I care about what is right and what is wrong. So you have to show that the ACLU is right and not go off on the WH losing to matter to me. :coffeepap
 
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