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TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

The real problem though - if he hadn't recorded this whole incident, he would have no choice but to pay an $11,000 fine.

Hence, IMO, why giving more credence to these federal agents in hearing a case of alleged whatever is a terrible idea.
 
well, that was fast

Homeland Security chairman to TSA: 'Reconsider' pat-downs - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

still sitting chairman of house homeland security bennie thompson and member sheila jackson lee have written a letter to pistole (the poser/posters who submit the most on this thread don't even know who that is, which, really, is an affront to those of us who do)...

have written a letter to pistole asking him to "reconsider" these "intrusive pat downs"

and hurry, urged the chair and ms lee, as thanksgiving is "typically the busiest travel time of the year"

they're concerned, their letter spells out, that the screenings and intrusive pat downs used by tsa "run afoul of privacy and civil liberties"

note: to those of you who see yourselves as somehow engaged in some kinda "debate" with some other forum "personality" over some hot topic, germaine or rather having to do with the definitions of common words, you may some day come to see that the ultimate "winners" and "losers" of these petty little piss contests you're so devoted to are gonna be determined not by your 60 second flashes of association but by TOMORROW'S HEADLINES

like gravity, i can't believe i'd ever have to point out something so obvious

such awareness is just a part of maturity, it comes with the territory

in other words, you simply have got to learn to see a move ahead

take care
 
What's being controlled? Don't you understand you have to show something actually be controlled for this to even make sense.


Really? So I can go to an Airport, and just skip the inspection station all together? That's great! How do you do that? See Joe, the control starts the second you buy that ticket when they feel that they can tell you to do anything as a prerequisite to your boarding that plane. Search you? control. Search your bags? control. Walk through a metal detector? control. See you naked? Control. Feel your junk? control. And all against the 4th amendment.

j-mac
 
note: to those of you who see yourselves as somehow engaged in some kinda "debate" with some other forum "personality" over some hot topic, germaine or rather having to do with the definitions of common words, you may some day come to see that the ultimate "winners" and "losers" of these petty little piss contests you're so devoted to are gonna be determined not by your 60 second flashes of association but by TOMORROW'S HEADLINES
That's a very astute observation. There is a world of difference between "schooling" and "education" and, as a wise mentor once pointed out to me, the price of tuition really goes up once you are out of school.
 
Basically here in the States, the Federal government has control of aircraft because of its interstate nature. The local jurisdiction polices the airport grounds, but once you are on the airplane, for criminal purposes you are in Federal territory. Any crimes you commit are Federal crimes on an airplane. Also, this is why the air marshals are Federal agents.

What if it is an INTRA-state flight? i.e. Houston to El Paso, New York to Buffalo, Sacramento to Los Angeles, Honolulu to Hilo, etc...
 
The guy's a total idiot. I hope they file a suit against him.

MaggieD I had a bit of respect for you until you posted this.

Why is it that you want someone to touch this young man's private parts?

Is it some personal issue of need or maybe a lack of interpersonal relationship contacts with the opposite sex?

The TSA perverts are having a great ime and Janet Nepolitano is gets off over the thought of of women toughing other women. After all that is what he fantasizes about all the time.

This whole flap is because Liberals are too stupid to allow to allow the TSA to profile the Islamic Cultist who are mot likely to be a threat.

We are all retards for allowing this B.S. to go on.

We need to shut down everything and reclaim America from th e damn Liberals and their BS.

THE LIBERALS are liars and retarded to the point that they are unable to see the the truth or facts when presented to them.

We had a revolution at the ballot box on Nov.2, but it wasn't enough to shock the Liberals into reality and now I fear the next step is to resort to violence, which will result in the deaths of many who are just too stupid to think for themselves.

I hope it never comes to that but if it does thank God Conservatives cling to GOD and GUNS,
 
oh, no, silly, it's a fact

the people are pissed

why else would the ny city council initiate such action?

NYC Councilman Wants Full Body Scanners Banned « CBS New York – News, Sports, Weather, Traffic and the Best of NY

Lawmakers Move to Eject Nude Scanners From New York Airports | Threat Level | Wired.com

you talk too much and think too little

and without links your opinions are just that, worthless

even if they are repeated 1000 times

LOL!

Reading skills are important. People being pissed wasn't disputed, and all and all, meaningless. People being pissed doesn't speak to facts at all.
 
Really? So I can go to an Airport, and just skip the inspection station all together? That's great! How do you do that? See Joe, the control starts the second you buy that ticket when they feel that they can tell you to do anything as a prerequisite to your boarding that plane. Search you? control. Search your bags? control. Walk through a metal detector? control. See you naked? Control. Feel your junk? control. And all against the 4th amendment.

j-mac

That's silly j. The question is what is being controlled? What does the government gain, other than safety, by making sure you're searched or scanned.

And no one is "feeling you're junk," "feeling you up," or "fondling" anyone. Again, facts are important.
 
That's silly j. The question is what is being controlled? What does the government gain, other than safety, by making sure you're searched or scanned.

And no one is "feeling you're junk," "feeling you up," or "fondling" anyone. Again, facts are important.



Obviously you don't mind government intrusion, or you don't fly enough.... Warrantless wire tapping of foreign nationals = bush is evil to you but junk fondling by jack booted fed thugs is a-ok when its your guy in office. :shrug: :roll:
 
Obviously you don't mind government intrusion, or you don't fly enough.... Warrantless wire tapping of foreign nationals = bush is evil to you but junk fondling by jack booted fed thugs is a-ok when its your guy in office. :shrug: :roll:

Two very different things, and I do beleive I've explained that already. And as long as you lie and say someone is fondling anyone, you can't be taken seriously. If someone fondles, they can be charged, as that is not what they are doing.
 
Two very different things, and I do beleive I've explained that already. And as long as you lie and say someone is fondling anyone, you can't be taken seriously. If someone fondles, they can be charged, as that is not what they are doing.



ahh so without evidence you accuse the victims of lying. Classy bro.


Nice hypocrisy. :thumbs:
 
Two very different things, and I do beleive I've explained that already. And as long as you lie and say someone is fondling anyone, you can't be taken seriously. If someone fondles, they can be charged, as that is not what they are doing.

Such partisan BS. You should just be ignored.
 
Some may not call this fondling, but it sure as hell must have been painful and humiliating:

"She put her full hand on my breast and said, 'What is this?'. And I said, 'It's my prosthesis because I've had breast cancer.' And she said, 'Well, you'll need to show me that'."

Cathy was asked to show her prosthetic breast, removing it from her bra.

"I did not take the name of the person at the time because it was just so horrific of an experience, I couldn't believe someone had done that to me. I'm a flight attendant. I was just trying to get to work."

Cancer surviving flight attendant forced to remove prosthetic br - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC-

Simply disgusting. :crazy3:
 
not fondled, only humiliated

A retired special education teacher on his way to a wedding in Orlando, Fla., said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down by TSA officers recently at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

“I was absolutely humiliated, I couldn’t even speak,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich.

Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his abdomen.

TSA pat-down leaves traveler covered in urine - Travel - News - msnbc.com

most of you can foresee what happened next
 
TSA Pat Down Went Too Far, Agency Chief Says:

"The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around," she said. "It was basically worse than going to the gynecologist. It was embarrassing. It was demeaning. It was inappropriate."

I'm sure Boo will produce a dictionary definition that "proves" this never happened and the claim is just another "hyperbolic" exaggeration (as opposed to parabolic, or even circular, exaggeration).
:lamo
 
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