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TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

Seems to me, that you don't want any kind of security in place.

Where did you get anything close to that?

I'm fine with standard metal detector screenings. I don't think that you need scanners, fondling and/or body cavity searches.

There are risks involved in flying....be it mechanical or terrorism. You can't live your life in fear (which is what the terrorists want us to do).

Reasonable security procedures are fine. However, we are allowing the terrorists to dictate how we live our lives....and that is wrong.
 
The other thing about this incident is that the man DID agree to the patdown. The trouble began when the cop wannabe TSA rent a cop didn't like his statement "If you touch my junk, I'm going to have you arrested".

What is wrong with that? He was saying...fine go ahead and pat me down, but don't grope me or touch me inappropriately. Because he said that, the TSA rent a cop called over the supervisor and the whole situation turned into a fiasco.

The guys was absolutely correct in what he did.....and I would love to see them try to bring a case against him. I don't know a jury out there that wouldn't find in his favor.
Thank God for modern technology....and it was all caught on tape.
 
This only provides support for what I've already said... the guy will never get a $11,000 fine. He will probably never be sued. The TSA oaf was only trying to scare him.
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/enforcement_sanction_guidance_policy.pdf


Here's what you have to carry through security to get that $11,000 fine:
Blasting Caps; Dynamite; Hand grenades; Plastic explosives; TNT

TSA officers are designated as Law Enforcement Officers while engaging in their TSA responsibilities. They have the power to arrest without a warrant. http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/Aviation_and_Transportation_Security_Act_ATSA_Public_Law_107_1771.pdf
The law says:
"The Under Secretary may designate an employee of the Transportation Security Administration to serve as a law enforcement officer."​

The TSA screeners at the gates are not officers. They can't detain you. They can't arrest you. They can't touch you without your permission. Again, that's why they have real cops on hand.

Most TSA Law Enforcement Officers are Air Marshals.
 
This guy certainly did interfere and slow the process for every single traveler behind him.
He refused a pat down. He was pulled to the side and the line continued to move. No big deal.

Here's "slowing the process":
Shut down terminal for six hours
Stranded 16,000 passengers
Delayed 100 flights
Cancelled 27
Fine: $658

Now if all of that is worth only $658, this guy owes TSA about 10 cents at most.
 
How do you know I'm not?
And when a certain segment is responsible for heinous crimes against humanity, they should be profiled. Don't like it? Too bad... fight against those that cause the problems.

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Hitler would be proud.

Racial profiling doesn't work. What "segment" are you referring to since the terrorists have all come from different racial backgrounds.

You know the terrorists have won when you throw away your values and beliefs because they make you quiver in fear.
 
This only provides support for what I've already said... the guy will never get a $11,000 fine. He will probably never be sued. The TSA oaf was only trying to scare him.
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/enforcement_sanction_guidance_policy.pdf


Here's what you have to carry through security to get that $11,000 fine:
Blasting Caps; Dynamite; Hand grenades; Plastic explosives; TNT


The law says:
"The Under Secretary may designate an employee of the Transportation Security Administration to serve as a law enforcement officer."​

The TSA screeners at the gates are not officers. They can't detain you. They can't arrest you. They can't touch you without your permission. Again, that's why they have real cops on hand.

Most TSA Law Enforcement Officers are Air Marshals.

The TSA employees are security guard rejects.....sad but true.....I know a couple and couldn't believe they got employed until I looked into the job requirements
 
The TSA employees are security guard rejects.....sad but true.....I know a couple and couldn't believe they got employed until I looked into the job requirements
If you can't earn respect, maybe you can wear it!

  • TSA is...outfitting frontline employees with new gold badges and royal-blue shirts as part of a broader effort to improve their image.
  • Our research shows that people respect individuals who wear uniforms, and do what they say (I believe it!)
  • "We wanted to have, I don't want to say more authority (yes, you do!), but a more professional look to upgrade our image."
  • "So far, the biggest complaint about the new uniforms has come from real police officers (naturally!), who fear that giving TSA screeners badges might confuse the public into thinking the airport personnel are police officers." (valid concern!)
Read more: Airport Screeners Dress for Respect - TIME
 
Where did you get anything close to that?

I'm fine with standard metal detector screenings. I don't think that you need scanners, fondling and/or body cavity searches.

There are risks involved in flying....be it mechanical or terrorism. You can't live your life in fear (which is what the terrorists want us to do).

Reasonable security procedures are fine. However, we are allowing the terrorists to dictate how we live our lives....and that is wrong.

That's right. We need to unleash unrestrained violence upon the terrorists and all those who support them and make the terrorist fear us, more than we fear him.

Oh wait, damn! You don't want to do that, either.

Gee willikers! What the hell do you wanna do, to defeat the Islamic terrorists? Anything? Give'em a Coke and smile?
 
Damn double posts!!
 
That's right. We need to unleash unrestrained violence upon the terrorists and all those who support them and make the terrorist fear us, more than we fear him.

Oh wait, damn! You don't want to do that, either.

Gee willikers! What the hell do you wanna do, to defeat the Islamic terrorists? Anything? Give'em a Coke and smile?

Well...you certainly don't do it the way that your "heroes" did it....by manipulating the public fear and then shifting the focus from those who actually attacked us to those who didn't. Hmmm....why is it again that you guys thought that was such a great idea?
 
Well...you certainly don't do it the way that your "heroes" did it....by manipulating the public fear and then shifting the focus from those who actually attacked us to those who didn't. Hmmm....why is it again that you guys thought that was such a great idea?

You don't even know what the hell you're talking about; so how am I supposed to?
 
The guy's a total idiot. I hope they file a suit against him.

I disagree. Where do we draw the line in what we allow the government to do?
 
Sorry....but I have a little more respect for our Constitution than that. As my signature says....the rights and freedoms guaranteed to us by the Constitution do not come with an asterisk.

For you and your way of thinking the dead and maimed... all the suffering at the hands of these Islamofacists is a mere Asterisk.

It's PC crap like this that resulted in the Ft. Hood killings. We are at war with a known quanitiy and we know it's major source. It's not Nuns, and it's not the September 10, 2000 world we're living in.

To stick your head in the sand when a known section of society is responsible for these attacks is utter suicide. I guess you think El Al Airlines should stop profiling too. If their screeners don't... they're fired, and they haven't had a terror attack upon their flights. They are brutally thorough, but we should simply ignore the greatest warning sign.

We are no less hated than the Jews by these idiots in case you haven't noticed.

Face palm city.

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I wonder how far TSA will go..
 
Interesting. I wonder when they'll start groping children, too. I hope we see a flurry of lawsuits, soon. I do believe in airport security, but when you start groping everyone, well, that eventually becomes the norm. When something becomes the norm, undoubtedly, we want to up it a notch or two. It happens everywhere throughout time.
 
Well alright then.

Does anyone... perhaps... view this as a red flag?
 
I do appreciate security, but so long as it's balanced. If some TSA dares grope my children, they will see a terrorist attack in the form of a flurry of fists.

*To the serious: This is a joke*
 
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