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Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

Is Obama also part of this? I mean, he's currently in office, so he is linked to the ongoing waterboarding? Shouldn't Amnesty International also prosecute Obama with Bush? Just Saying.......

Also, GITMO isn't closed yet.....

Is there on going waterboarding? Obama has called an end to it, at least offically. And this isn't about Gitmo being open, something he could use some help on.
 
The complaint won't go further. I think we all accept that. It would not be right to punish the underlings without punishing the leaders, including Bush. That would be painful and very divisive. It would take more will than we have today.
 
I support this and basically feel that these activities constitute a war crime.
Imagine for a moment that you discovered GWB knew he could have kept a 200kt nuke from going off in NYC by waterboarding a terrorist, but didn't allow it, and so a million or so people died.

Did GWB do the right thing?
 
How ridiculous that people are still arguing about whether water-boarding is torture or not. Amazing how effective a little agitprop can be. There is no serious disagreement as to whether or not waterboarding is torture. It is, that is a given.

For everybody denying that waterboarding is torture, wise up folks. Of course it is!

As for everybody who admits it is torture but thinks it should be policy anyway to "save lives," I shake my head in shame.
 
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Imagine for a moment that you discovered GWB knew he could have kept a 200kt nuke from going off in NYC by waterboarding a terrorist, but didn't allow it, and so a million or so people died.

Did GWB do the right thing?

No he did not because the ends do not justify the means in this case, but a moral person would do it and take the punishment anyway.
 
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How ridiculous that people are still arguing about whether water-boarding is torture or not. Amazing how effective a little agitprop can be. There is no serious disagreement as to whether or not waterboarding is torture. It is, that is a given.

For everybody denying that waterboarding is torture, wise up folks. Of course it is!

As for everybody who admits it is torture but thinks it should be policy anyway to "save lives," I shake my head in shame.

Imagine for a moment that you discovered GWB knew he could have kept a 200kt nuke from going off in NYC by waterboarding a terrorist, but didn't allow it, and so a million or so people died.

Did GWB do the right thing?

Don't obfuscate the issue. The question is not "Did he do the right thing?" It is: "Did he do a criminal thing?"
 
tell it to eric holder
 
No he did not because the ends do not justify the means, but a moral person would do it and take the punishment anyway.
I see.
So, under certain circumstances, the correct and moral course of action is to waterboard terrorists.
10-4.

Anyone that would -not- choose to waterboard a terrorist to save a million or so American lives is unfit to be President..
 
Amnesty International Calls to Prosecute Bush for Admitted Waterboarding



I support this and basically feel that these activities constitute a war crime.

If waterboarding is a war crime, then there are a lot of US military personnel and US political leaders that will have to be put on trial as well, including Slick Willy Clinton because we waterboarded our own troops as a training exercise, and he was (a sad) Commander in Chief.

This is so retarded its frightening.

Where were the morons when Saddam was throwing people off buildings? Raping for fun? Hanging 100 people a day? The loons were nowhere.

How about Hamas and the Hezbo Lezbo's? Where are the calls for these imbeciles to be tried for war crimes, or crimes against humanity?

Amnesia International is more like it. Idjuts.

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I see.
So, under certain circumstances, the correct and moral course of action is to waterboard terrorists.
10-4.

Anyone that would -not- choose to waterboard a terrorist to save a million or so American lives is unfit to be President..

The premise is flawed. it the real world, not the TV world, that situation doesn't come up. You are not likely to have the right person at the right time and know that you have him. Nor would you likely get the correct information if your tortured.

And no, Bush did neither the right thing or the legal thing.
 
If waterboarding is a war crime, then there are a lot of US military personnel and US political leaders that will have to be put on trial as well, including Slick Willy Clinton because we waterboarded our own troops as a training exercise, and he was (a sad) Commander in Chief.

This is so retarded its frightening.

Where were the morons when Saddam was throwing people off buildings? Raping for fun? Hanging 100 people a day? The loons were nowhere.

How about Hamas and the Hezbo Lezbo's? Where are the calls for these imbeciles to be tried for war crimes, or crimes against humanity?

Amnesia International is more like it. Idjuts.

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That's false. it's not the same thing, and the person in charge of that training testified that it is not the same thing. Look it up.
 
"Senior Director Claudio Cordone said in a statement. "If his admission is substantiated, the USA has the obligation to prosecute him. In the absence of a U.S. investigation, other states must step in and carry out such an investigation themselves."

Gee, I'll be looking forward to that! Wonder what other states he has in mind?
 
That's false. it's not the same thing, and the person in charge of that training testified that it is not the same thing. Look it up.

Ugh... Doh... GONG!
If it's torture... then torture is torture and is a criminal activity.

It's not.

This is a witch hunt by a bunch of idjuts that hate folks on the right. Plain and simple.
If it is torture, then Slick and Bush should be sharing a cell.

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I'd support anyone else torturing to save their family too, it's nothing to do with me being liberal, I don't support torturing people on the off chance they may be able to save a stranger.

I prefer a President who doesn't consider the American people, or even our allies as "strangers."
By your statement, it would have been OK for President Bush to have someone waterboarded to save Laura, but not to save your family.
 
So you are saying you would allow your child to die without trying to the any info out of the person that knew to save them?

of course not, that is simple meaningless posturing from the bleeding hearts crowd. they will moan and cry and wet themselves over "torturing" these poor innocent terrorists but the minute it involves them or their family they become just like the rest of us, regardless of what they say now.

The "training" I received in survival school was more severe than anything our govt has ever been accused of doing to these terorrist scumbags.
 
Ugh... Doh... GONG!
If it's torture... then torture is torture and is a criminal activity.

It's not... it's a political witch hunt by a bunch of idjuts that hate folks on the right. Plain and simple.

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Again, they do not do the same thing under the same situation and circumstance. They only give a sample so they have some preparation for when they are tortured. What you claim is false.
 
Are you quite certain you understand what "bigotry" means?

obviously not. there was nothing in the post he referenced that was in any way bigotted.
 
Again, they do not do the same thing under the same situation and circumstance. They only give a sample so they have some preparation for when they are tortured. What you claim is false.

This is the most moronic defense you can imagine.

The exact same action on two separate groups of people... in one instance is torture, the other not?

That is what you call malleable justice.

Either it is torture or it is not.

You just proved it is not.

Thanks.

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DAMN! YOU WERE TORTURED! WHY WON'T YOU TESTIFY SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE BASTARDS UP ON WAR CRIMES CHARGES!?!?:3oops:

It was done to me in the mid 90s in the name of "training" that and many other things that we are forbidden to do to these terrorist dirtbags.
 
Answer the question.

While I won't indulge your philosophical speculations, I'll gladly answer the relevant question. Did Bush propagate a policy of torture, and thereby commit a war crime? Yes, by his own admission he did.
 
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