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McDonald's Happy Meal Toys to be Banned in San Francisco?

Grim17 said:
The point is, the parents make the choices for their children, not the state. How can you say they have failed, when the state takes it upon themselves to make those choices in the first place?

FREEDOM... Look it up.
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How else can we ensure that people don't make the wrong decision?

I don't need to look up freedom. I've been confronted with its horrible visage, and declined to grant it my affections.
 
Lets say I become a parent.

Why should I have to pay for some fat ****s mistake? If I wanna get my kid a happy meal now and then, why can't I?

I know it sounds harsh but, for **** sake.

Why have they not banned any other childrens meals at ANY OTHER LOCATION.

We have a kids pack at work... hardly anyone gets it, maybe they should ban that too...
 
Patria Antiqua said:
How else can we ensure that people don't make the wrong decision?
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Who's business is it of yours to make that decision for others?

I don't need to look up freedom. I've been confronted with its horrible visage, and declined to grant it my affections.
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Wow...... :shock:
 
Patria Antiqua said:
How else can we ensure that people don't make the wrong decision?
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You don't!

Freedom is about people, families, making their own decisions about their lives. As long as toys and hamburgers are legal, McDonalds has the right to sell them, PERIOD.

What people choose for their families to wear, learn, worship, participate in, and yes, even eat, is completely up to them.
 
Grim17 said:
You don't!

Freedom is about people, families, making their own decisions about their lives. As long as toys and hamburgers are legal, McDonalds has the right to sell them, PERIOD.
What people choose for their families to wear, learn, worship, participate in, and yes, even eat, is completely up to them.
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Says who, exactly? You? I certainly do not say that.

McDonalds is a fascist, multi-national economic oppressor that does its utmost to pander terrible food to the most vulnerable among us: children. Put an end to it, find the CEO, and hang him high.

After all, we pay for their mistakes, so we have a say in whether or not they can do this nonsense.
 
Mark this thread and date.

We've found something that the entire board agrees with (except one).

Certainly, the apocolpyse can't be far behind.
 
Piece by piece...

...our liberties are gone.

Tell me, what next?
 
Wake said:
Piece by piece...

...our liberties are gone.

Tell me, what next?
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Prosperity!

Losing the freedom to become an obese pig and burden the health-care system can only be a boon to the nation.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
Says who, exactly? You? I certainly do not say that.

McDonalds is a fascist, multi-national economic oppressor that does its utmost to pander terrible food to the most vulnerable among us: children. Put an end to it, find the CEO, and hang him high.

After all, we pay for their mistakes, so we have a say in whether or not they can do this nonsense.
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What makes McDonalds so different from EVERY OTHER company? They have a product, that people like, and they market it well. There is nothing evil about McDonalds, plain, and simple.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
Prosperity!

Losing the freedom to become an obese pig and burden the health-care system can only be a boon to the nation.
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And once people lose the freedom of being gay, then we can be assured that the population will never run out!!!

See what I did there? That kind of thinking is plain scary.
 
SE102 said:
If people were responsible enough not to become obese, they would have this 'freedom' you speak of, however they aren't this responsible.

If you want to participate in this for a laugh. Is it the individuals at fault or the fast food places?
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In the list of reasons/causes for fat kids in this country, the toy in a Happy Meal has a weak correlation at best and would have to be way down that list.

The potato chip aisle at the grocery or the soda machine at the park would be much higher on the list. Mebbe California has plans to make those items accessible by only 18 year old's and up. ;)


It's a dumb friggin' law.....


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Your Star said:
And once people lose the freedom of being gay, then we can be assured that the population will never run out!!!
See what I did there? That kind of thinking is plain scary.
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Gay people have never been a threat to the continuation of the human species, so there isn't any real reason to worry about it.

Obesity, on the other hand, is a national epidemic that is/will be fantastically expensive.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
Gay people have never been a threat to the continuation of the human species, so there isn't any real reason to worry about it.

Obesity, on the other hand, is a national epidemic that is/will be fantastically expensive.
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That wasn't my point.

When you take away one freedom on a loosely based correlation, then none of our freedoms are safe.
 
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Patria Antiqua said:
Gay people have never been a threat to the continuation of the human species, so there isn't any real reason to worry about it.

Obesity, on the other hand, is a national epidemic that is/will be fantastically expensive.
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Then push to ban ground beef, hamburger buns and fried potatoes... See how well that agenda flies with the American public.
 
Grim17 said:
Then push to ban ground beef, hamburger buns and fried potatoes... See how well that agenda flies with the American public.
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You're asking someone with an anti-libertarian worldview to consider public opinion? I don't care about their opinion.

What I would do is end any sort of agriculture subsidy so that we can buy stuff like corn from third world countries cheap, and make eating well easier for the poor.
 
Grim17 said:
You just backed up my statement that you're "Anti-American" and left no doubt about it.
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I'm pretty sure that expressing my view in the public sphere is as American as it gets.

I'm not sure what this nonsense, reactionary accusation of "Anti-American" is, though.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
You're asking someone with an anti-libertarian worldview to consider public opinion? I don't care about their opinion.

What I would do is end any sort of agriculture subsidy so that we can buy stuff like corn from third world countries cheap, and make eating well easier for the poor.
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Last time I checked, corn was cheaper than a Happy Meal.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
I'm pretty sure that expressing my view in the public sphere is as American as it gets.

I'm not sure what this nonsense, reactionary accusation of "Anti-American" is, though.
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Anyone want to address this one? I've already stated my views quite clearly.
 
Grim17 said:
Last time I checked, corn was cheaper than a Happy Meal.
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Eating well costs dough, lots of it.

It costs dough because we subsidize American farming. Stop doing that, and good food gets cheaper for everyone.
 
Last week, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Land Use Committee voted 3-0 in favor of an ordinance (PDF) to limit toy giveaways in children's meals that have excessive calories, sodium and fat.

well there is some sanity on display this week after all.
 
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