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2010 Midterm Results Discussion

Why don't you just go look it up?
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If you have some grand point to make.

I have looked it up, Harris and Montgomery Counties of TX spent over 600,000 on uninsured healthcare expense and that was funded by the taxpayers of the state of TX not the Federal Taxpayers thus making healthcare a state issue
 
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but your ramblings confirm what was already known .... you have NO understanding of civic duty

LOL, Communities all over the country are responsible for civic duties. Seems you don't really understand that concept. This is all about Federal Control over a state issue which is normally the case and one you ignore.
 
I have looked it up, Harris and Montgomery Counties of TX spent over 600,000 on uninsured healthcare expense and that was funded by the taxpayers of the state of TX not the Federal Taxpayers thus making healthcare a state issue


Are you saying absolutely no federal funding was involved?
 
Are you saying absolutely no federal funding was involved?

Yep, that is what I am saying, all right out of the local budgets. Why is it federal responsibility to fund state issues and problems? Since the Federal Govt. hasn't secured the border they should be billed as most of that cost was illegal alien healthcare
 
How about answering the question that Boo refuses to answer? Who pays the cost of the uninsured, the Federal Govt. or the states?

Again, both. Depending on circumstance and program involved and method, either or both. Also, we pay with our insurance premium and hospital costs. So, in many different ways, everyone pays. for the uninsured.
 
Yep, that is what I am saying, all right out of the local budgets. Why is it federal responsibility to fund state issues and problems? Since the Federal Govt. hasn't secured the border they should be billed as most of that cost was illegal alien healthcare


If they are getting medicare or medicaid which I'm pretty sure they are federal funding is involved. Medicaid is jointly funded by both the federal government and the state.
 
Growing up I learned personal responsibility. I don't expect you to pay for my healthcare, why do you think it is my responsibility to pay for yours? I asked you a question which of course you ignored, who pays the cost of the uninsured, the Federal govt. or the state governments.

You don't pay for mine, but both of us pay for the uninsured whether we have health care reform or not. And I have ignored nothing. ;)
 
Again, both. Depending on circumstance and program involved and method, either or both. Also, we pay with our insurance premium and hospital costs. So, in many different ways, everyone pays. for the uninsured.

Again, why do you want the Federal Tax payer to pay for state and local issues?
 
Again, why do you want the Federal Tax payer to pay for state and local issues?

Not sure I care either way. I only care that reform gets done, and believe a universal payer will do a beter job. that our peicemeal efforts.

BTW, it isn't just a local issue. Factually, you're incorrect. This is a national problem, effecting all fifty states.
 
Not sure I care either way. I only care that reform gets done, and believe a universal payer will do a beter job. that our peicemeal efforts.

BTW, it isn't just a local issue. Factually, you're incorrect. This is a national problem, effecting all fifty states.

That is normally the belief of a liberal who ignores history yet still has the arrogance that they can do it better than other liberals. Medicare costs more than intended and still is growing. Right now both Medicare and SS are on budget and shouldn't be. My hope is that the Republican House tries to implement legislation that removes it from budget. then you really will have a true picture of what is going on but doubt that you want that picture.
 
You don't pay for mine, but both of us pay for the uninsured whether we have health care reform or not. And I have ignored nothing. ;)

That is why it is a state issue and not a federal issue. Nothing you have said changes that responsibility.
 
If they are getting medicare or medicaid which I'm pretty sure they are federal funding is involved. Medicaid is jointly funded by both the federal government and the state.

Medicaid is a state issue, Medicare is part of SS and paid for everytime you get a paycheck.
 
That is normally the belief of a liberal who ignores history yet still has the arrogance that they can do it better than other liberals. Medicare costs more than intended and still is growing. Right now both Medicare and SS are on budget and shouldn't be. My hope is that the Republican House tries to implement legislation that removes it from budget. then you really will have a true picture of what is going on but doubt that you want that picture.

They won't. If they did, they would be out faster than they got back in. Again, you're need to read slower. Those programs do more, and thus cost more. It is what they do that makes them so popular. The people, you know the electorate you claim we should listen to, want those programs.
 
They won't. If they did, they would be out faster than they got back in. Again, you're need to read slower. Those programs do more, and thus cost more. It is what they do that makes them so popular. The people, you know the electorate you claim we should listen to, want those programs.

They do more because you say so, the cost benefit is terrible which is the case with most liberal programs. Problem with liberals is they don't understand that liberal social programs cost more than intended and actually do less than projected on a cost benefit basis.
 
They do more because you say so, the cost benefit is terrible which is the case with most liberal programs. Problem with liberals is they don't understand that liberal social programs cost more than intended and actually do less than projected on a cost benefit basis.


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They do more because you say so, the cost benefit is terrible which is the case with most liberal programs. Problem with liberals is they don't understand that liberal social programs cost more than intended and actually do less than projected on a cost benefit basis.

Really? What's the benefit in your mind? Cost benefit terrible to who? I would love to see something factual on this.
 
Really? What's the benefit in your mind? Cost benefit terrible to who? I would love to see something factual on this.


Seeing that I have a roughly million dollar operation in my future I certainly see a benefit in medicare.
 
Thanks. :thumbs:

And that shows exactly what? Medicaid is insurance below a certain income and Medicare is insurance for over the age of 65. The majority fit into the other programs. Again a selective chart without context. What percentage of the people fit into each category?
 
And that shows exactly what? Medicaid is insurance below a certain income and Medicare is insurance for over the age of 65. The majority fit into the other programs. Again a selective chart without context. What percentage of the people fit into each category?

Fact is, like it or not, it is below the cost of the rest of medicine. I await your evidence. Cost benefit, remember.
 
And that shows exactly what? Medicaid is insurance below a certain income and Medicare is insurance for over the age of 65. The majority fit into the other programs. Again a selective chart without context. What percentage of the people fit into each category?


You don't know very much about medicare do you?
 
Fact is, like it or not, it is below the cost of the rest of medicine. I await your evidence. Cost benefit, remember.

The fact is an you continue to ignore it, that Federal Run programs are ripe with fraud, waste, and abuse all funded by the Federal Taxpayer which you don't seem to worry about. Healthcare is a personal responsibility best managed at the local not the Federal level, a simple concept that you ignore. You have so much faith in a govt. that has a 14 trillion dollar debt, amazing.
 
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