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2010 Midterm Results Discussion

Just curious here, did you think similarly in 2006 when I believe it was time magazine was suggesting that Republicans were an endangered species and that the election was a referendum on the War and was a repudiation of the Republicans way of doing things?

Cause this is arguably a larger result than what happened in 2006 or at least on par with it, and unlike 2006 the Republicans were picking up seats with solid conservatives (some of which knocked out moderate conservatives in primaries) where as many of the 2006 gains were from "blue dog" democrats that were moderates who ran conservative on some issues during the campaign? I think it'd be hard to say that people stating that back in 2006 was legitimate but suggesting this wasn't a repudiation of at least a certain degree of Obama's agenda.

I was being sarcastic #1.

#2. I didn't see it that way in 2006, and I don't see it that way now. All I see is the American people swinging the pendulum one way or the other whenever they have a temper tantrum with the party in power.
 
I was being sarcastic #1.

#2. I didn't see it that way in 2006, and I don't see it that way now. All I see is the American people swinging the pendulum one way or the other whenever they have a temper tantrum with the party in power.

I don't see it so much as a temper tantrum, but more of a results oriented pragmatic streak. Democrats were unable to fix the economy (and why does not matter), so they turned to the republicans.
 
I don't see it so much as a temper tantrum, but more of a results oriented pragmatic streak. Democrats were unable to fix the economy (and why does not matter), so they turned to the republicans.

And when the Republicans fail to fix the economically, they'll turn to the democrats etc.

I get the picture.

But here's a pretty good question. What exactly does fixing the economy mean?

Building it back up on a bubble again. The thing that made America wealthier then its wildest dreams, and gave it the purchasing power of the stars. Was Equity and fake money. From the individual to the government. Credit has carried the western world in general far. But is that really what we wanna keep doing?
 
does everyone want to forget all the anti-war rhetoric that swept Obama into office?

People were convinced this administration would have a different view of foreign policy, but they learned they were duped.

All the fake front organizations that were so opposed to the wars went silent, but the base had no reason to be excited and vote.
 
does everyone want to forget all the anti-war rhetoric that swept Obama into office?

People were convinced this administration would have a different view of foreign policy, but they learned they were duped.

All the fake front organizations that were so opposed to the wars went silent, but the base had no reason to be excited and vote.

I don't believe they were duped. Politicians go with what the people want, and it seems most did not want a pull out fiasco like Vietnam. The far left liberals were the only ones that wanted an immediate pullout. Obama is not a liberal contrary to what we were told by the right during the election.
 
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And when the Republicans fail to fix the economically, they'll turn to the democrats etc.

I get the picture.

But here's a pretty good question. What exactly does fixing the economy mean?

Building it back up on a bubble again. The thing that made America wealthier then its wildest dreams, and gave it the purchasing power of the stars. Was Equity and fake money. From the individual to the government. Credit has carried the western world in general far. But is that really what we wanna keep doing?

And from what I can see Wall Street and the banks including CC companies are back to their old tricks. So it may just be a matter of time.
 
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Last night was the worst-case scenario for Democrats. Here's why:

1. Dems maintained the Senate and Harry Reid. The House can now run the people's wishes up the flagpole again and again, and Reid and Obama will have to now be the "Party of No", which is the only political position Dems have taken recently against Republicans. As much as we'd love to see Reid gone in shame (his son got throttled), he is still the face of why last night went so horribly wrong for his party. Republicans have a firm hold on the filibuster, and need merely wait on another election cycle to take over the Senate completely.

2. Governors's can begin the process of re-districing key swing states back to the way it was during the Reagan years. Did you see what happened in Pennsylvania? The Governor, five House seats, and a senator's spot all go Republican? Absolutely unfathomable, given the Democrat-friendly districting lines there. That was really the story of the night because Dems will have huge problems for years to come now that their years of gerrymandering can be undone.

3. The industrial belt - Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Missouri, etc - all went red last night. That critical portion of the country just gave the finger to Obama bigtime.

4. All that remains of the Democrats is the far, far left, much like most of what remains of Republicans are ultra conservatives. In that ideological battle, the Republicans will win. The one exception was in West Virginia, where Dems retained a Senate seat, but the guy will vote against Obama on virtually everything. Democrat in name only.

5. Even in liberal strongholds, people like Murray in Washington had difficult times retaining seats that used to be an afterthought.

The message was loud and clear last night, and now it's up to Obama to either be pragmatic like Clinton and admit defeat - "the era of big government is over" - or go even harder and more divisively to the left than he already is.
 
The message was loud and clear last night, and now it's up to Obama to either be pragmatic like Clinton and admit defeat - "the era of big government is over" - or go even harder and more divisively to the left than he already is.

This more or less most likely wishful thinking.
 
I don't see it so much as a temper tantrum, but more of a results oriented pragmatic streak. Democrats were unable to fix the economy (and why does not matter), so they turned to the republicans.

I'm confused... many liberals whined repeatedly about the economy tanking was Bush's fault... the 'why' mattered to them then.

But now that the Democrats have been unable to fix the economy & the voters kicked them out of the House, the 'why' no longer matters?
 
Reason has a good summary of last night





The message was loud and clear last night, and now it's up to Obama to either be pragmatic like Clinton and admit defeat - "the era of big government is over" - or go even harder and more divisively to the left than he already is.

Ill believe it when I see it and my paycheck reflects it.
 
The message was loud and clear last night, and now it's up to Obama to either be pragmatic like Clinton and admit defeat - "the era of big government is over" - or go even harder and more divisively to the left than he already is.


I see Obama, and those that were spared the public's wrath last night, as keeping to their obvious M/O and doubling down, as terrible as that sounds, and will be for us. He doesn't care.


j-mac
 
This more or less most likely wishful thinking.

What is absolutely quite telling about last night is the continued support of the leftwing agenda by people living in the big cities and how the rest of the country gets it. Big cities with their high taxes, high corruption, and massive political machines continue to be insane voting for the same people over and over again expecting different results. Anyone that bothered to check out the election maps will see a sea of red with a few blue dots all over the nation, dots that represent major metropolitian areas controlled by the Democrat Political machine that keeps people dependent and stupid.

I have no idea what it is going to take to wake people up but as long as they continue to vote for the same ideology over and over again they are going to get the same results, total dependence on the liberal agenda
 
I see Obama, and those that were spared the public's wrath last night, as keeping to their obvious M/O and doubling down, as terrible as that sounds, and will be for us. He doesn't care.


j-mac

Or he does care about the important things and not the mindless partisan stuff. ;)
 
What is absolutely quite telling about last night is the continued support of the leftwing agenda by people living in the big cities and how the rest of the country gets it. Big cities with their high taxes, high corruption, and massive political machines continue to be insane voting for the same people over and over again expecting different results. Anyone that bothered to check out the election maps will see a sea of red with a few blue dots all over the nation, dots that represent major metropolitian areas controlled by the Democrat Political machine that keeps people dependent and stupid.

I have no idea what it is going to take to wake people up but as long as they continue to vote for the same ideology over and over again they are going to get the same results, total dependence on the liberal agenda

First off, one election doesn't tell you a whole lot. If it did, the Republicans should have been dead after 2006 and 2008. What it did tell us is right now America wants to try something else, but it doesn't mean they won't want to go back either.

Also, you are right. As long as people continue to vote for the same ideology over and over again they will get the same result, but it doesn't mean it will be dependence on the liberal agenda. We can also get this semi-conservatism as well.
 
Or he does care about the important things and not the mindless partisan stuff. ;)

You mean the mindless partisan stuff like massive expansion of the Federal Govt and bailout of Democrat contituent groups? that kind of partisan stuff?
 
First off, one election doesn't tell you a whole lot. If it did, the Republicans should have been dead after 2006 and 2008. What it did tell us is right now America wants to try something else, but it doesn't mean they won't want to go back either.

Also, you are right. As long as people continue to vote for the same ideology over and over again they will get the same result, but it doesn't mean it will be dependence on the liberal agenda. We can also get this semi-conservatism as well.

The basic difference however is that this country was built on individual wealth creation and entreprenuerial spirit, not massive dependence on the Federal Taxpayer. It wasn't built on class warfare or envy and wealth redistribution. I hope the party of "no" says a big "NO" to any further attempt to bailout failed states and poor choices made by individuals.
 
You mean the mindless partisan stuff like massive expansion of the Federal Govt and bailout of Democrat contituent groups? that kind of partisan stuff?

More the mindless who see eveything that way. :sigh:
 
The basic difference however is that this country was built on individual wealth creation and entreprenuerial spirit,


And don't forget the contributions of child labor:

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I hope the party of "no" says a big "NO" to any further attempt to bailout failed states and poor choices made by individuals.

George W. Bush, one of the greatest presidents of our time, signed a $700 billion bailout and my personal hero John McCain supported it. I don't see how bailouts are liberal agenda and I personally take that as offensive.
 
George W. Bush, one of the greatest presidents of our time, signed a $700 billion bailout and my personal hero John McCain supported it. I don't see how bailouts are liberal agenda and I personally take that as offensive.

As satire, you are really funny. :lol: ;)
 
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I see Obama, and those that were spared the public's wrath last night, as keeping to their obvious M/O and doubling down, as terrible as that sounds, and will be for us. He doesn't care.


j-mac

I hope so, then the blind will see what we already know. This guy abhors the United States and what it represents.

He is cornered bigtime. His healthcare plan will be defunded, Dems are going to extend the Bush tax cuts because their political lives depend on it, and the House is going to run bill after bill at him that sound great to us, that he'll have to veto them if he's going to adhere to the teachings of Ayers and his mentors.
 
And don't forget the contributions of child labor:

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How's that hope and change working out for you, 16 million unemployed Americans and 3 trillion added to the debt? The American people gave Republicans a historical change in the House which tells me all I need to know. The "party of no" now has the mandate to use that power to stop the massive growth in the govt.

How about those TX results! 20 more Republicans in the State Legislature, White wins Houston by only 20000 votes, Perry in a landslide! Looks to me like you still don't get it and probably never will
 
This is what our country was built on

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