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McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

TacticalEvilDan said:
Both the electorate and the members of Congress on both sides of the isle have been wearing a For Rent sign for quite some time.

Could we stop pointing at "the other guy," or acting like this is a novel concept?
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Oh please! Show me a republican that distributes this money for votes like I personally witnessed demo's do for years.


j-mac
 
Unions tell union members to vote Democrat all the time. In fact unions pay to fund Democrat campaigns. How is this any different?
 
digsbe said:
Unions tell union members to vote Democrat all the time. In fact unions pay to fund Democrat campaigns. How is this any different?
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My wife belongs to a union. It's pretty much the same thing that they do. The union newsletter we got last week provides reasons to vote against republicans (they'll lose their jobs, benefits, pensions). It also provides endosed candidates, which, except for one solitary member of the state legislature are 100.0% democrats.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I believe it's called "pork."

:mrgreen:
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Oh, nice. But Federal dollars spent in districts on projects is far different than democrat operatives hitting the streets on election day and handing out $20 bills to people to go vote....Wink, wink.....Besides, are you trying to say that demo's don't do pork?


j-mac
 
digsbe said:
Unions tell union members to vote Democrat all the time. In fact unions pay to fund Democrat campaigns. How is this any different?
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Unions cant fire union members, union members can fire the managment of the union
 
j-mac said:
Oh, nice. But Federal dollars spent in districts on projects is far different than democrat operatives hitting the streets on election day and handing out $20 bills to people to go vote....Wink, wink.....
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Um, no, not really.

j-mac said:
Besides, are you trying to say that demo's don't do pork?
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Are you pretending to forget that you're talking to someone who has consistently (and in this very thread) pointed the finger at both major parties, or are you watching television while you're reading DP?
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Um, no, not really.
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There is a huge difference.

Are you pretending to forget that you're talking to someone who has consistently (and in this very thread) pointed the finger at both major parties, or are you watching television while you're reading DP?
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I don't pretend, that is for children, and or liberals. I am just reading what you write and responding. And I don't think you had anything in your post that alluded that both parties were doing this.....Hmmm let's see. You said:

Both the electorate and the members of Congress on both sides of the isle have been wearing a For Rent sign for quite some time.

Could we stop pointing at "the other guy," or acting like this is a novel concept?
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After I talked about demo's handing out money in districts to buy votes. Then knowing that you couldn't back that up you then changed the goal posts to pork here:

I believe it's called "pork."
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And now you are trying to tell us that getting money as an earmark to build a new fire house, or improve infrastructure is the same as walking up to a person in say an urban community and giveing them a $20 bill and saying that they need to go vote, and oh by the way, we support the demo candidate. Yeah right.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
There is a huge difference.
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No, there really is no difference between narrowly-targeted allocations of tax dollars exchanged for campaign contributions or votes and bribes.

j-mac said:
I don't pretend, that is for children, and or liberals. I am just reading what you write and responding. And I don't think you had anything in your post that alluded that both parties were doing this.....Hmmm let's see. You said:
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Which would be me pointing to both major parties.

j-mac said:
After I talked about demo's handing out money in districts to buy votes. Then knowing that you couldn't back that up you then changed the goal posts to pork here:
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Uh, no, that's not moving the goal posts. It's the same thing.



Also, way to accuse me only pointing at one party, then quoting where I point at both of them -- nothing entertains me than someone too confused to keep their lies straight.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
No, there really is no difference between narrowly-targeted allocations of tax dollars exchanged for campaign contributions or votes and bribes.



Which would be me pointing to both major parties.



Uh, no, that's not moving the goal posts. It's the same thing.



Also, way to accuse me only pointing at one party, then quoting where I point at both of them -- nothing entertains me than someone too confused to keep their lies straight.
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The only "lie" here is not being perpetrated by me sir....And now that you are devolving into name calling I think we are done. I have things to do anyway.


j-mac
 
That's what usually happens when someone tries to accuse me of bias about 5 seconds after I clearly criticize both sides.
 
First of all, it's "for whom to vote," not "whom to vote for." NYT should know better.
Second, the OP misrepresents the content to make it sound more nefarious than it is:

The pamphlet said: “If the right people are elected, we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above the current levels. If others are elected, we will not.”

It then named three Republican candidates after stating, “The following candidates are the ones we believe will help our business move forward.”
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As a member of a professional organization, I get stuff like this every election cycle and when there are certain bills up for vote. It doesn't thrill me when it's urging me to vote against my beliefs, but it is what it is. Big dang deal.
 
StandUpChuck said:
First of all, it's "for whom to vote," not "whom to vote for." NYT should know better.
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This is the sort of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put. Ending sentences with prepositions is perfectly cromulent English. It's only ungrammatical in Latin.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, the owner is wrong for asking his employees to vote Republican, yet this can be perfectly fine....



Wonderful world we live in isn't it?


j-mac
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I wonder how reliable this report is? Let's look at who wrote it:

Cleta Mitchell

Counsel to Friends of Sharron Angle

Republican Nominee for U.S. Senate, Nevada
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I think I am going to wait for some one believable to report that this is actually going to happen, and not accusations from the other campaign.

By the way: No WWE swag for poll goodies - Connecticut Post

World Wrestling Entertainment, which employed Linda McMahon as CEO before she became a candidate, announced Thursday that it will give away free merchandise at select polling locations on Election Day.

WWE said it will stay at least 75 feet away from polling places, the campaign-free zone mandated by law.
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Redress said:
I wonder how reliable this report is? Let's look at who wrote it:



I think I am going to wait for some one believable to report that this is actually going to happen, and not accusations from the other campaign.

By the way: No WWE swag for poll goodies - Connecticut Post
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I see, so dismissing the report due to whom wrote it, yet we are supposed to believe anything that comes out of Think Progress, Centers for American Progress, or Media Matters' mouth....hmmmm.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
I see, so dismissing the report due to whom wrote it, yet we are supposed to believe anything that comes out of Think Progress, Centers for American Progress, or Media Matters' mouth....hmmmm.

j-mac
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Question. Did you read the last part of what Redress said... where he demonstrated that there are Republicans who do exactly what you claimed they do not do?
 
j-mac said:
I see, so dismissing the report due to whom wrote it, yet we are supposed to believe anything that comes out of Think Progress, Centers for American Progress, or Media Matters' mouth....hmmmm.

j-mac
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Where did I say you should believe anything any of those say? We call that a straw man.

By the way, the story I linked is confirmed, but feel free to fact check it.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Why do we give a hoot about any employer asking any employee to vote for any particular candidate?

They can't follow you into the voting booth. Hell, unless they've got too much time on their hands they won't even know if you voted at all.
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Because it is illegal and could border on job harassment.
 
"Because it's illegal" isn't a solid argument for why you should or should not do something. People speed all the time, that's illegal. The law is neither just nor moral, so the only question with respect to breaking the law is whether or not the risks outweigh the rewards.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
"Because it's illegal" isn't a solid argument for why you should or should not do something. People speed all the time, that's illegal. The law is neither just nor moral, so the only question with respect to breaking the law is whether or not the risks outweigh the rewards.
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So are you suggesting that employers should be able to do whatever they want and laws be damned? There is a reason why certain things are not allowed in the workplace and this is one of em buster!
Ohio Revised Code - Title XXXV Elections - Section 3599.05 Corrupt practices - employer shall not influence political opinions or votes of employees. - Ohio Attorney Resources - Ohio Laws
 
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