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Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

Comeon stinger, stick around.Hell, you might convert some of us how to keep on topic....or not. :2wave:


Oh, and have a very Merry christmas.

Naw, I wouldn't fall for the "have you stopped beating your wife" diversions and whenever I tried to post they just tagged teamed me to death. It was there way of having to deal with debate they could not keep up with. But I am honored they keep my memory alive.
 
Naw, I wouldn't fall for the "have you stopped beating your wife" diversions and whenever I tried to post they just tagged teamed me to death. It was there way of having to deal with debate they could not keep up with. But I am honored they keep my memory alive.

COMEON back stinger, you know you miss us like a long lost cousin. :2wave:
 
How did it work out for them?

Ask Karl Rove. He's one of the main ones paying a price for taking everyone's $'s, lying to them about he prospects and then losing every single race he invested in with his "Crossroads GPS" superpac.
 
Ask Karl Rove. He's one of the main ones paying a price for taking everyone's $'s, lying to them about he prospects and then losing every single race he invested in with his "Crossroads GPS" superpac.

Karl Rove being an American has severely devalued the worth of being an American.....He reminds me of the creepy nazi in the first "Indiana Jones" movie...........................
 
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Karl Rove being an American has severely devalued the worth of being an American.....He reminds me of the creepy nazi in the first "Indiana Jones" movie...........................

How so? How can one man's disrespect somehow demean it?
 
Ask Karl Rove. He's one of the main ones paying a price for taking everyone's $'s, lying to them about he prospects and then losing every single race he invested in with his "Crossroads GPS" superpac.

The American people are paying the price for the most incompetent President ever to hold the office and the best you can do is pick on a non elected individual? I continue to wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty where economic results don't matter but rhetoric does?

Unfortunately there are far too many poorly informed people who put this incompetent individual into the WH for a second term. The one who has lied to the American people is Barack Obama and trillions of dollars taken from the American people later, you continue to focus on Republicans?
 
Why not attend..after all it has the best Suprme Court Justices that CORP Money can buy.

< A secretive network of Republican donors is heading to the Palm Springs area for a long weekend in January, but it will not be to relax after a hard-fought election — it will be to plan for the next one.>

<The participants in Aspen dined under the stars at the top of the gondola run on Aspen Mountain, and listened to Glenn Beck of Fox News in a session titled, “Is America on the Road to Serfdom? >

Gotta get the ole brain washed.:roll:

<To encourage new participants, Mr. Koch offers to waive the $1,500 registration fee. And he notes that previous guests have included Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, Gov. Haley Barbour and Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn, and Representatives Mike Pence, Tom Price and Paul D. Ryan.

Mr. Koch also notes the beautiful setting. But he advises against thinking of this as a vacation.

“Our ultimate goal is not ‘fun in the sun,’ ” he concludes. “This is a gathering of doers who are willing to engage in the hard work necessary to advance our shared principles. Success in this endeavor will require all the help we can muster.” >

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/us/politics/20koch.html?_r=2&ref=politics&pagewanted=all


Who wrote this ****? Alex Jones? ... :lamo If people don't think that demo's are doing the exact same things, then they are the ones brainwashed by the likes of MSNBC, and other lying progressive outlets....

This is a classic case of blatant op-ed journalism leaning to the far left.
 
Who wrote this ****? Alex Jones? ... :lamo If people don't think that demo's are doing the exact same things, then they are the ones brainwashed by the likes of MSNBC, and other lying progressive outlets....

This is a classic case of blatant op-ed journalism leaning to the far left.

Why not ask the person who bumped an almost three year old thread?This is old history that lead to the split in the repug party with the election of the teabaggers in the midterms.The seed that lead to BO's second term.:lamo
 
Why not ask the person who bumped an almost three year old thread?This is old history that lead to the split in the repug party with the election of the teabaggers in the midterms.The seed that lead to BO's second term.:lamo

Aw, yes, you are so right, those evil "teabaggers" who believe in personal responsibility as well as fiscal responsibility. We cannot have that and keep power, can we liberals? The second Obama term was created by the very poorly informed person who continues to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. No Obama supporter can cite a specific program Obama has implemented that has been a success as evidenced by verifiable economic results.
 
Aw, yes, you are so right, those evil "teabaggers" who believe in personal responsibility as well as fiscal responsibility. We cannot have that and keep power, can we liberals? The second Obama term was created by the very poorly informed person who continues to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. No Obama supporter can cite a specific program Obama has implemented that has been a success as evidenced by verifiable economic results.

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Here's the reason that the r's(small r) lost the election.If they would have had a real Republican with a large R they would have won the election by a landslide.The sad thing is the lames that seem to think that they have to kiss bagger ass that to get elected. Reagan wouldn't make the cut with today's clown car.:2wave:
 
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Here's the reason that the r's(small r) lost the election.If they would have had a real Republican with a large R they would have won the election by a landslide.The sad thing is the lames that seem to think that they have to kiss bagger ass that to get elected. Reagan wouldn't make the cut with today's clown car.:2wave:

No, the reason that Republicans lost the election is because Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff" and liberals love it that way. How anyone can support someone who has generated the results of Obama is beyond comprehension unless you either work for the govt. or are dependent on the taxpayer for assistance. When you have over 100 million people dependent on a large central govt. it is hard to win a national election when you talk about things like personal and fiscal responsibility. I suggest you look at actual results and stop buying rhetoric.
 
No, the reason that Republicans lost the election is because Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff" and liberals love it that way.

What is the "stuff" that match's unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan)of the last administration?:shock:
 
What is the "stuff" that match's unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan)of the last administration?:shock:

That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.
 
That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.

Is that the best i can do?:lamo

I show you an unfunded plan that cast the American taxpaying public anywhere between $9.4 trillion dollara and $16 trillion dollars and you're saying "Is that the best i can do? "

So tell me what was the cost of the "stuff "that you were referring to?:2wave:
 
That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.

LOL. A conservative talking about math not adding up. Have you looked at the Ryan budget?
 
Is that the best i can do?:lamo

I show you an unfunded plan that cast the American taxpaying public anywhere between $9.4 trillion dollara and $16 trillion dollars and you're saying "Is that the best i can do? "

So tell me what was the cost of the "stuff "that you were referring to?:2wave:

No, what you showed is that you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric and ignore the results. The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it?

Since you don't seem to understand the so called Medicare mandate it isn't surprising that you don't understand what Obama has generated in the terms of free stuff. Whether it be cell phones, "free" breakfast, lunch, and dinner, education entitlements, healthcare entitlements, almost unlimited unemployment benefits, those don't matter to the Obamabots who believe that is the role of the Federal Govt. What Obama is doing is transforming America into a European entitlement society that will collapse under its own weight and that is ok with you?
 
LOL. A conservative talking about math not adding up. Have you looked at the Ryan budget?

Yeah, I sure have, have you?

PAUL RYAN'S PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS

A List of Republican Budget Cuts
Notice S.S. and the military are NOT on this list.These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting. Read to the end.

* Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy -- $445 million annual savings.
* Save America 's Treasures Program -- $25 million annual savings.
* International Fund for Ireland -- $17 million annual savings.
* Legal Services Corporation -- $420 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Arts -- $167.5 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Humanities -- $167.5 million annual savings.
* Hope VI Program -- $250 million annual savings.
* Amtrak Subsidies -- $1.565 billion annual savings.
* Eliminate duplicating education programs -- H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
* U.S. Trade Development Agency -- $55 million annual savings.
* Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy -- $20 million annual savings.
* Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding -- $47 million annual savings.
* John C. Stennis Center Subsidy -- $430,000 annual savings.
* Community Development Fund -- $4.5 billion annual savings.
* Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid -- $24 million annual savings.
* Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half -- $7.5 billion annual savings
* Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20% -- $600 million annual savings.
* Essential Air Service -- $150 million annual savings.
* Technology Innovation Program -- $70 million annual savings.
* Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program -- $125 million annual savings..
* Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization -- $530 million annual savings.
* Beach Replenishment -- $95 million annual savings.
* New Starts Transit -- $2 billion annual savings.
�������Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts -- $9 million annual savings
* Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants -- $2.5 billion annual savings.
* Title X Family Planning -- $318 million annual savings.
* Appalachian Regional Commission -- $76 million annual savings.
* Economic Development Administration -- $293 million annual savings.
* Programs under the National and Community Services Act -- $1.15 billion annual savings.
* Applied Research at Department of Energy -- $1.27 billion annual savings.
* Freedom CAR and Fuel Partnership -- $200 million annual savings..
* Energy Star Program -- $52 million annual savings.
*Economic Assistance to Egypt -- $250 million annually.
* U.S.Agency for International Development -- $1.39 billion annual savings.
* General Assistance to District of Columbia -- $210 million annual savings.
* Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority -- $150 million annual savings.
*Presidential Campaign Fund -- $775 million savings over ten years.
* No funding for federal office space acquisition -- $864 million annual savings.
* End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
* Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act -- More than $1 billion annually.
* IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget -- $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
*Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees -- $1 billion total savings.WHAT THE HECK IS THISABOUT?
* Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees -- $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
* Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of -- $15 billion total savings.
*Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.WHAT???
* Eliminate Mohair Subsidies -- $1 million annual savings.
*Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- $12.5 million annual savings� WELL ISN'T THAT SPECIAL
* Eliminate Market Access Program -- $200 million annual savings.
* USDA Sugar Program -- $14 million annual savings.
* Subsidy to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) -- $93 million annual savings.
* Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program -- $56.2 million annual savings.
*Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs-- $900 million savings.
* Ready to Learn TV Program -- $27 million savings..
* HUD Ph.D. Program.
* Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
*TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years
 
Yeah, I sure have, have you?

Even conservatives are not pleased. You would think Ryan learned something from his failed election last year


The Ryan budget keeps the level of revenue that resulted from the tax increases that came at the start of the year, but it aims to raise that revenue with a new tax code that features a top rate of 25 percent. A 25 percent rate would mean a big tax cut for the highest earners in the country: Someone who makes $1 million a year isn’t going to have enough tax breaks to make up for a 14.6 percentage-point reduction in rates. The middle class would almost certainly have to pay higher average tax rates to make the numbers work. A similar plan seems to have been a serious political liability for Mitt Romney in last fall’s presidential election.

Paul Ryan
The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “Regrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.
 
Even conservatives are not pleased. You would think Ryan learned something from his failed election last year




Paul Ryan
The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “Regrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.

I will take what you call "fuzzy math" over the lies and deceptions of Obama. Where are the Obama actual cuts, not cuts in growth but actual cuts. Republicans may never win another election because the entitlement mentality promoted by Democrats. Today's Democrat Party is a disaster and will collapse this country under the weight of the debt being created. Like far too many you have no idea how the debt affects you, the value of your dollars, and the future of this Country, neither does Obama.

Obama took office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt that today is 16.6 trillion. That is the reality that you ignore along with the failure of Obama to enact any cuts to address that debt.
 
No, what you showed is that you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric and ignore the results. The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it?

Since you don't seem to understand the so called Medicare mandate it isn't surprising that you don't understand what Obama has generated in the terms of free stuff. Whether it be cell phones, "free" breakfast, lunch, and dinner, education entitlements, healthcare entitlements, almost unlimited unemployment benefits, those don't matter to the Obamabots who believe that is the role of the Federal Govt. What Obama is doing is transforming America into a European entitlement society that will collapse under its own weight and that is ok with you?

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These free cellphones, tossing a bone to poor SCHOOL CHILDREN for a meal every now and then, providing healthcare for citizens to keep them from cluttering up our understaffed emergency rooms with our sick and dying is somehow turning our country into entitlement society??Explain this line of thinking to me. I’m all ears.:2wave:
 
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These free cellphones, tossing a bone to poor SCHOOL CHILDREN for a meal every now and then, providing healthcare for citizens to keep them from cluttering up our understaffed emergency rooms with our sick and dying is somehow turning our country into entitlement society??Explain this line of thinking to me. I’m all ears.:2wave:

No, you are a leftwing ideologue that ignores reality. We are 16.6 trillion dollars in debt up over 6 trillion in just four years since Obama took office. Typical liberal bs where you want govt to manage personal responsibility issues. Those are state and local responsibilities, not a Federal Taxpayer responsibility. This country wasn't built on yours or Obama's vision.
 
No, you are a leftwing ideologue that ignores reality. We are 16.6 trillion dollars in debt up over 6 trillion in just four years since Obama took office. Typical liberal bs where you want govt to manage personal responsibility issues. Those are state and local responsibilities, not a Federal Taxpayer responsibility. This country wasn't built on yours or Obama's vision.


In other words you can’t explain your position. What is it about those who get most of their news from fox news channel that causes this brainwashing?

I wonder if genetics could have something to do with it? Perhaps some are more susceptible to the brainwashing tactics of rush, glenn et al. So sad.:(
 
In other words you can’t explain your position. What is it about those who get most of their news from fox news channel that causes this brainwashing?

I wonder if genetics could have something to do with it? Perhaps some are more susceptible to the brainwashing tactics of rush, glenn et al. So sad.:(

I explained my position quite well, the issues you believe are Federal Responsibility are actually state and local responsibilities as our Founders stated. What is sad is people like you ignore history, ignore personal responsibility, and are doing your best to destroy the country from the inside out. Wonder if that is genetics.
 
I explained my position quite well, the issues you believe are Federal Responsibility are actually state and local responsibilities as our Founders stated. What is sad is people like you ignore history, ignore personal responsibility, and are doing your best to destroy the country from the inside out. Wonder if that is genetics.

You’ve hardly explained your position at all. For instance.

in post #212; where you state “Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff". I ask in post# 213;” What is the "stuff" that matches the unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan) of the last administration? “

your response in post#214;” What was the Democrat Plan?

“Seriously?... You consider YOUR attempt to change the subject an EXPLANATION? Let’s look a bit deeper, maybe we can dig up some hidden gyms further on down your trail of add homs.

post #217; where, following your gratuitous ad hom attack you state.

"The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it"

Hhmm…” The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put INCENTIVE and CAPITALISM back into the program ?“

Where to start? < The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in >=Start an unfunded program that will eventually approach up to $16 trillion dollars when fully implemented. HARDLY.:roll:

< put incentive and capitalism back into the program >=Incentive for who? BIG PHARMA? :shock:Medicare can’t by law negotiate like the Veterans Administration does. Therefore Medicare and Medicaid pay 58% more for prescription drugs than the VA.

That brings us up to..

Post #217;free stuff.

cell phones=BO continued a program that dubya started in 2008.look it up. :2wave:


lunch, and dinner=still bitchin about the National School Lunch Act, signed by President Harry Truman in 1946 eh?Sad.:(

education entitlements=pell grants?hardly.

healthcare entitlements=hopefully it will get to that.

unemployment benefits=YAWN; when times get tough Presidents always sign extensions. dubya did it and it was no problem at that time with the small r.s at that time.

OF COURSE followed by your GRATUITOUS AD HOM ATTACTS. :peace
 
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