Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

Obamanator said:

I was in the insurance biz for nearly 20 yrs and you can buy all the same kinds of coverages without obamacare.. simply by paying a higher premium... which is the end result of obamacare. So why should we allow the govt to force us to get something we can buy anyway. If you want any of the coverages that [you say are so wonderful] and imply are unique, simply find a good independent agent and he'll find an underwriter who will tailor your policy to what you want. You might not like the cost... but neither do the majority of americans who are paying for this farce of a law.

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Because people are not getting the insurance, and we're paying for it. Until we address those not being responsible and having insurance, we will all pay for them.

Boo Radley said:

I'll bet you I prove correct.

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you care about your teeny little opinion a lot more than americans do

they're concerned about the massive expansion of medicare while simultaneously cutting its funding half a tril

they don't like the sluffing off of 12 million new medicaid members on already bankrupt states with no backing

they don't like the individual mandate (measure c passed in the show me state, which is never wrong, 71 to 29)

they object to the burdensome business of millions of 1099's which must be filled out

doug elmendorf (cbo) said that baucus had double counted a quarter T

public unions are exempt from the cadillac tax

traffic at er's actually goes up (undercutting obama's prime payfor), cuz patients who've been covered all their lives suddenly can't find a doctor who will make an appt (boston globe above)

why did hhs suddenly exempt the 30 at the last second?

why did 3m DUMP its employees?

the president promised a thousand times, you can keep what you have if you like it

no, it's all the OTHER stuff that americans actually have come to loathe

despite your empty headed affability, they loathe the mindless muttering emanating from the obama camp, its tone of unhearing diffidence, its arrogant presumption that half conceived ideas kneejerked after 30 seconds of "thought" might actually mean something

americans hate the health care bill, they hate what's in it, they wanted pre existing assurances without all the other crap

a tsunami is about to sweep away house and senate, governors coast to coast, state legislatures

you talk too much and link too little

reading what you write, i sincerely find demeaning

Prof, you're not reading me well. I'm not saying it is my teeny little opinion. I'm saying most want much of what is in the bill when asked about the specifics.

Deuce said:

Nevada, on the other hand, hates him so much that they're willing to vote in a crazy cat lady, apparently.

This country is ****ed.

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What is it about you people and name calling. If you disagree with someone on an issue spell out the differences.

If they make a bad move spell it out, but to make blanket statements about people when truth is most name callers do it out of ignorance and some bias that comes from listening to people like Olbermann, and Mathews, who know nothing but are in the Obama camp and can only call, people names.

I'm not defending Sharon Angle specifically but all people who are called names by people who know either nothing about them or nothing in general.

He's a little about Sharon and it took a few seconds for find and minutes to Read.

SHARRON E. ANGLE
Republican
Washoe County Assembly
District No. 26
Small Business Manager

Born: 1949 – Klamath Falls, Oregon.
Educated: Southside, Anderson, and Roger Corbett Elementary Schools; E. Otis Vaughn Middle School; Earl Wooster High School; University of Nevada, Reno, B.A.
Married: Theodore (Ted).
Children: Joye Robertson; Vincent (Vince) Angle and wife Jessica Angle; grandchildren: Tianna (Tia) and Jacob (Jake) Robertson, Vincent (Vince) Angle, Jr.
Hobbies/Special Interests: Oil painting, novel writing, swimming, skiing, weight lifting.

Legislative Service:
Nevada Assembly, 1999-2005—five special and four regular sessions. Committee on High-Level Radioactive Waste, 2003-2004; Legislative Commission, 2003-2004; Information Technology Subcommittee, 2001-2004; Commission on Substance Abuse Education, Prevention, Enforcement and Treatment, 1999-2002; Nevada Commission on Aging, 1999-2000.


Affiliations:
Sonrise Church; Republican Women of Reno.


Personal and Professional Achievements:
Author of the Property Tax Reform Initiative (Nevada’s Prop 13). Helped establish Ely Hot Line Crisis Call line for troubled teens, Winnemucca Fine Art Gallery, and Tonopah Life Center for family fitness; substitute teacher, private school in Winnemucca, Nevada, 25 years; community college teacher, five years; tutor and community service supervisor for Nye County Juvenile Probation, seven years; Nye County School Board of Trustees, one term; published novel, Prairie Fire.

I suggest that it may be that Reid has been such a disaster for the State and Our Nation that a dead stake could beat him, but from what I see it's not Sharon Angle.

And yes I call Obama, Pelosi, Readi the Trifecta of doom but I spell out that it's because they have supported programs and policies that are doing no earthly good and only adding to economic ruin from what I have seem.

Sharon Angle has more and better experience in Government than the Amateur in Chief after two plus years of errors.

Maybe she backs bad programs or makes mistakes. If so what?

Boo Radley said:

Prof, you're not reading me well. I'm not saying it is my teeny little opinion. I'm saying most want much of what is in the bill when asked about the specifics.

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The Prof has it right and most people when they finally are facing the costs of the "Obama I don't really care about your Health Kill Granny plan," they will join the current 1 in 4 Liberals that have read and now know how bad it is. This is not about fixing anything it's about wrecking the economy and Obama is on schedule with this dumb ass plan, with Cap and Trade on deck, as Obama pushes his Socialist/Marxist plans.

councilman, did you just get on to someone over name calling and do this:

Sharon Angle has more and better experience in Government than the Amateur in Chief after two plus years of errors.

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Boo Radley said:

You did read what I wrote right? Your response doesn't sound like it. I said people support elements while not supporting the bill, a disconnect. Like this:

A Time Magazine-Abt SRBI poll in late July 2009 found that a large majority of Americans (80%) favored a requirement that insurance companies insure people even if they suffer from pre-existing conditions.[1]

In September 2009, the monthly Kaiser Health Tracking Poll report said:

The public’s most unanimous and bipartisan support is saved for a proposal to have the federal government require that health insurance companies cover anyone who applies, even if they have a pre-existing condition. Overall, eight in ten back the proposal, including 67 percent of Republicans, 80 percent of political independents and 88 percent of Democrats.[2]

Pre-existing condition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.srbi.com/TimePoll4794_Final_ Report.pdf

That's the example I gave. Rasmussen is a complte view. Break it down into components, and I think you should see what I'm talking about.

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So you think they support a bill they want repealed?

Boo Radley said:

No, because they've been hit with so much fear mongering and misinformation that they don't have a good picture. But test my theory, break it down in to parts and ask Rasmussen to ask about each component. I'll bet you I prove correct.

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Most misinformation came from Obama and the democrats

Boo Radley said:

councilman, did you just get on to someone over name calling and do this:

Sharon Angle has more and better experience in Government than the Amateur in Chief after two plus years of errors.

:lamo :lamo :lamo

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I guess my assessment that Liberals have serious problems with reading comprehension was correct, did I not say to spell out the issues there genius. More and better experience, after having laid it all out did as i said to do, but once again the facts and truth have eluded your limited ability to assimilate the meaning of plain English.

You should try not to attempt to be so cute when you're so far from being able to fathom what it is you are talking about. It shows a willingness to drop trou in public. :bootyshake:Oopsie

ptif219 said:

Most misinformation came from Obama and the democrats

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You mean like death panels and socialism? I won't argue no misinformation came from democrats, but it is the blantant lies of the opposition that have made it impossible to treat this subject reasonably.

Councilman said:

I guess my assessment that Liberals have serious problems with reading comprehension did I not say to spell out the issue there genius. More and better experience after having laid it all out, but once again the facts and truth have eluded your limited ability to assimilate the meaning of plain English.

You should try not to so cute when you're so far from being able to fathom what it is you are talking about. It shows a willingness to drop trou in public. :bootyshake:Oopsie

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I'm sorry, but you can't make the criticism, no matter the context, and do what you did.

Moot said:

Republican plan, "pray you don't get sick,

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because you'll be dead by the time you see a doctor under Obamacare."

Barbbtx said:

because you'll be dead by the time you see a doctor under Obamacare."

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I hope you're being sarcastic.

Barbbtx said:

because you'll be dead by the time you see a doctor under Obamacare."

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If conservatives had their way only the rich would ever get to see a doctor.

Boo Radley said:

This country was well on the way before obama. It is inaccurate and dishonest to lay on his doorstep alone. no party has given a damn about deficit other then to blame the other party. So, you won't win with that argument.

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Look at it this way. You buy a diner that goes out of business because it was giving half the meals away and couldn't make a profit. You then decide to give all meals away for free. They are both idiots, but who is more of an idiot?

Barbbtx said:

Look at it this way. You buy a diner that goes out of business because it was giving half the meals away and couldn't make a profit. You then decide to give all meals away for free. They are both idiots, but who is more of an idiot?

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Sounds bad, if that was what was going on. It's that misinformation rasing its ugly head again.

TheNextEra said:

If conservatives had their way only the rich would ever get to see a doctor.

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The wealthy would. Some working class, but would still be priced out of some things.

But I don't think many look at it this way. Some believe price would come down if left alone, but I see no evidence to support that. Other like to blame those who don't have. But few actually want to see anyone without.

hazlnut said:

Maybe on Conservative radio, that's what they 'teach' you... but in reality, that's not even 10% true.

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Yes Obama also points fingers to talk radio and Fox news for his failures. More proof he won't take responsibilty for his own actions.
All he knows is to blame Bush, blame talk, blame fox. blame the tea party.
It's time he woke up and faced the fact that he is a failure, unless destroying the country is his goal.

Barbbtx said:

Yes Obama also points fingers to talk radio and Fox news for his failures. More proof he won't take responsibilty for his own actions.
All he knows is to blame Bush, blame talk, blame fox. blame the tea party.
It's time he woke up and faced the fact that he is a failure, unless destroying the country is his goal.

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yes, i'm sure destroying the country is his goal. geez.

why does rory say his dad's bill will hurt nevada?

why did sebelius exempt the 30?

why did 3m DUMP?

spin?

LOL!

Boo Radley said:

You mean like when we work up and found we invaded countries on a pretext, tortured people, and acted liek imperalist dogs? Already has happened.

But, your hyperbole doesn't make Keyes' hyperbole any more accurate.

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Do you ever have anything good to say about America? Maybe you should listen to the dems. I think they've decided to add a little patriotism into this campaign. Not because they are patriotic, but because they are thinking that might be one reason the Rep. are doing better in the polls.

Barbbtx said:

Do you ever have anything good to say about America? Maybe you should listen to the dems. I think they've decided to add a little patriotism into this campaign. Not because they are patriotic, but because they are thinking that might be one reason the Rep. are doing better in the polls.

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seriously, wth is wrong with you? why would you claim dems are not patriotic? you have a decidedly ignorant view of people, lady.

oh wait, your world views are defined by fox news. i forgot. maybe you should try getting out more.

Boo Radley said:

I'm sorry, but you can't make the criticism, no matter the context, and do what you did.

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Thank you for reinforcing everything I said.

If you think Obama is not an AMATEUR you need to get a new dictionary written in English not liberal gibberish. Hell I had more and better executive management experience before I was 30 than Obama has now. You might have a semi-cogent argument if Obama had at least worked as assistant night manager at McDonald's of Taco Bell.

Boo Radley said:

Prof, you're not reading me well. I'm not saying it is my teeny little opinion. I'm saying most want much of what is in the bill when asked about the specifics.

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That's why the republicans are promising to repeal and replace it.
When you are talking 2700 pages, there is bound to be a few good things in it. (although I disagree with your much of it)

ptif219 said:

Most misinformation came from Obama and the democrats

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I would have to respectfully disagree. After all, Speaker Pelosi 'specifically' stated 'we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it'. That being the case, the Dems couldn't possibly have been supplying misinformation, as they wanted the bill passed 'prior' to the contents being well publicized.

We all know why now.