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Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

Doesn't matter. The reason she might not have known that her housekeeper was illegal is because she probably broke the law. Let me explain - For more than 10 years, it has been a requirement for employers to verify that prospective employees are in the United States legally. This consists of completing an I-9 form on each and every employee that you hire. This also includes housekeepers. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and if Whitman did not verify her employee, before hiring her, she has no excuse either. In fact, she should know better. Wasn't she the CEO of a major company?

I was shown on the Anderson show this evening that Whitman did in fact do the checking that was reuired. The person had the signed form, Social card and drivers liscense. They also brought out that the lawyer who did this smear job did the same thing in the 2003 governor's race. The charges in the 2003 case were dismissed.

Seems like an outright lie. I have heard that the dems were going to try and smear republicans to try and win a few extra elections.

Could America really be turning into a banana republic. Fixed elections and a country with tremondous foreign debt,
 
What's damning? This is damning.


This to a woman who worked in her home for nine years and had the temerity to ask for help.

**** you, Meg Whitman!

The woman who's suing Whitman at the behest of Gloria Allred claims that she said that. Given that those two have lied about everything else up until now, you'd have to be exceedingly gullible to take what they say at face value.

Who is Jerry Brown?

The guy running against Whitman. He was Governor Moonbeam back in the 70's.
 
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yeah that is why she was paying the woman 23 an hour. sounds rather dear for manual housekeeping labor



Then again Whitman is a billionaire.


So? What does that have to do with anything other than your socialist view of the world?


j-mac
 
Doesn't matter. The reason she might not have known that her housekeeper was illegal is because she probably broke the law. Let me explain - For more than 10 years, it has been a requirement for employers to verify that prospective employees are in the United States legally. This consists of completing an I-9 form on each and every employee that you hire. This also includes housekeepers. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and if Whitman did not verify her employee, before hiring her, she has no excuse either. In fact, she should know better. Wasn't she the CEO of a major company?

If you heard Meg Whitman's statements, she hired Nicky Diaz Santillan through an employment agency and received documentations that she was her legally. She even signed the INI form which means she's here legally and lying on that form means perjury. Well... now that Allred posted a neon sign that Nicky is also an illegal alien, all those documents can now be used as evidence against Nicky and possibly deport her. Now, this is definitely a smear tactic, and possibly the best lie out there because most people don't research on news online enough, and main stream media will definitely downplay Whitman's refutations while play Nicky's accusations 24/7.
 
If you heard Meg Whitman's statements, she hired Nicky Diaz Santillan through an employment agency and received documentations that she was her legally. She even signed the INI form which means she's here legally and lying on that form means perjury. Well... now that Allred posted a neon sign that Nicky is also an illegal alien, all those documents can now be used as evidence against Nicky and possibly deport her. Now, this is definitely a smear tactic, and possibly the best lie out there because most people don't research on news online enough, and main stream media will definitely downplay Whitman's refutations while play Nicky's accusations 24/7.

I wonder if the lawyer can be brought up on charges of campaign fraud. Doubt if it would happen since this seems to be the new democratic approach to elections.
 
This entire effort by Allred is to put Whitman on the spot. To either force her into an anti Ilegal Immigrant stance, or to show her up to Conservatives as a hypocrite. In short the hidden Hispanic Vote in California is totally being counted on to Save both Brown & Boxer.

ALSO Allred is more interested in salvaging Boxer, but it is much harder if Brown loses. Conventional wosdom is that no way Fiorina wins in Whitman loses. Brown however might not have had a direct hand in this sleezy revelation.
 
Gretta absolutely destroys Gloria Allred last night on her show. You really gotta see this:

Video: Greta vs Gloria « Hot Air

I can not stand Greta, but man did she open up a big ol can on Gloria. Glorias been talking about Nikki suing Whitman this entire time. Greta was able to get her to admit that this will not be going to the courts. Ooops.

I have to believe this is going to backfire on Brown and possibly help Meg. I say that without any certainty about what this might do to the hispanic vote, which was most likely the resaon they did it.
 
I can not stand Greta, but man did she open up a big ol can on Gloria. Glorias been talking about Nikki suing Whitman this entire time. Greta was able to get her to admit that this will not be going to the courts. Ooops.

I have to believe this is going to backfire on Brown and possibly help Meg. I say that without any certainty about what this might do to the hispanic vote, which was most likely the resaon they did it.

Maybe it will put a spotlight on what a nutjob Brown is. I can't believe that even a state as screwed up as California would elect what looks like a washed out hippie who took one too many tabs.
 
So? What does that have to do with anything other than your socialist view of the world?
j-mac

Read the rest of the exchange before you go yapping your mouth off? K thanks troll.
 
That's a pretty generous wage for a menial laborer. Like I said, skilled technicians get paid that here in LA. And I am perfectly comfortable with paying them that salary.

Skilled technicians go home after 5pm. They don't cook, clean and take care of your kids. Jallman, you live in California. $15 an hour is what you'd pay a teenager to take care of your kids. Seriously, child-care in California is big business because of how expensive it is to have somebody take care of your kids while you're at work. You're comparing apples and oranges.
 
Irrelevant. answer the question. What is so generous about paying $23 an hour in California? You act like Whitman was some sort of patron saint.

no, not a saint, just a person who did nothing wrong
 
the letter from social security to ms whitman which ms allred is waving about actually serves to exonerate the republican candidate and her husband

the note the husband scratched---check into this, nikki---rather indicates this unlisted ssn came as news to him

the fact that the couple continued to pay all taxes, all soc sec, undercuts allred's entire premise about why the whitmans would hire an illegal (at $23 an hour) in the first place

the text of the letter states simply that the ssn doesn't register, it does not say ms nikki is illegal

indeed, there is a paragraph in the corrspondence which states the employers must NOT act on this ssn discrepancy by FIRING their maid

allred's entire case as contained in the letter rather serves to exonerate the whitmans, not taint them

indeed, here in CA allred is becoming THE issue in this madcap story

she has EXPOSED ms nikki to serious legal jeopardy, as an illegal, as potentially an employee who LIED to her bosses

and for what, ms allred?

what have you or nikki to gain from this?

meg and moonbeam are debating tonite, this topic will certainly be pretty hot

she is well positioned to knock this one outta the park, and, after so much brouhaha has been had over this (almost as much as the delaware witch), she will experience a serious BUMP

we'll all be watching, i expect

brown's camp comes across as dirty and desperate
 
the letter from social security to ms whitman which ms allred is waving about actually serves to exonerate the republican candidate and her husband

the note the husband scratched---check into this, nikki---rather indicates this unlisted ssn came as news to him

the fact that the couple continued to pay all taxes, all soc sec, undercuts allred's entire premise about why the whitmans would hire an illegal (at $23 an hour) in the first place

the text of the letter states simply that the ssn doesn't register, it does not say ms nikki is illegal

indeed, there is a paragraph in the corrspondence which states the employers must NOT act on this ssn discrepancy by FIRING their maid

allred's entire case as contained in the letter rather serves to exonerate the whitmans, not taint them

indeed, here in CA allred is becoming THE issue in this madcap story

she has EXPOSED ms nikki to serious legal jeopardy, as an illegal, as potentially an employee who LIED to her bosses

and for what, ms allred?

what have you or nikki to gain from this?

meg and moonbeam are debating tonite, this topic will certainly be pretty hot

she is well positioned to knock this one outta the park, and, after so much brouhaha has been had over this (almost as much as the delaware witch), she will experience a serious BUMP

we'll all be watching, i expect

brown's camp comes across as dirty and desperate

.... You do know Alfred isn't a member of this forum, right?
 
You are supposed to report an illegal alien to federal authorities.

employees are sposed to tell their employers the truth
 
It wasn't necessarily the agency's fault either, even if the woman was illegal. If she had paperwork that looked authentic and the agency reported the documents properly on an I9 form, that's all they were required to do.

You are saying that they just looked at the documents and nothing else? They didn't check to see if any of that stuff was real? Sounds like a poor excuse. Like they just turned a blind eye. I would not have used the same agency if I was her.There is also the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me".
 
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Skilled technicians go home after 5pm. They don't cook, clean and take care of your kids. Jallman, you live in California. $15 an hour is what you'd pay a teenager to take care of your kids. Seriously, child-care in California is big business because of how expensive it is to have somebody take care of your kids while you're at work. You're comparing apples and oranges.

So, what is the average hourly wage of a part time maid in california? Actual proof i.e. a link, not just what you think it is.
 
You are saying that they just looked at the documents and nothing else? They didn't check to see if any of that stuff was real? Sounds like a poor excuse. Like they just turned a blind eye. I would not have used the same agency if I was her.There is also the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me".

What else did you expect her to do? And if she had done more , wouldn't the democrats just be accusing her of racial profiling right about now? Get real. She did everything as required under the law and was available to her at the time the maid was hired.
 
employees are sposed to tell their employers the truth

And when she did, she was fired. She wasn't reported to federal authorities. I think we all know why.
 
And when she did, she was fired. She wasn't reported to federal authorities. I think we all know why.

i guess ms whitman has a heart

unlike rabble rousing allred
 
What else did you expect her to do?


Verify that the documents were real.

And if she had done more , wouldn't the democrats just be accusing her of racial profiling right about now?

I have no idea.Maybe, maybe not.


Get real. She did everything as required under the law

Which is a cop out if the law says that employers do not have to verify if the documents were real.

and was available to her at the time the maid was hired.

You are telling me that 9 years ago an employment agency and employers had no way of verifying if any documents were real?
 
i guess ms whitman has a heart

unlike rabble rousing allred

It looks like Whitman was hoping the former housekeeper would keep her mouth shut.
 
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