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Census finds record gap between rich and poor

I don't get it, what makes these quotes or sources more accurate than the U.S. Treasury Dept. Website? So many people are quick to post articles while ignoring the checkbook of the United States. Doesn't really matter what someone else says as the Treasury data is what matters.

Your to angery to notice that he did. You also ignored the quote from Vice President Dick Chaney.
 
President Bush grew the deficite by almost double. How does that NOT qualifiy him as a massive spender and expander of the federal government.

If you want to talk deficit then President Clinton must be your favorite President.

Bush had a lot of help raising that deficit and not sure if you get the news where you live but Bush has been out of office for 2 years. Bush and Congress added 5 trillion to the debt in 8 years, Obama and the Congress have added 3 trillion in TWO years. If you are worried about the Bush debt why do you support Obama who has put Bush spending on steroids?
 
Your to angery to notice that he did. You also ignored the quote from Vice President Dick Chaney.

I always ignore quotes as I prefer actual facts. Don't care what Cheney said only what the U.S. govt spent and took in in revenue.
 
If you are worried about the Bush debt why do you support Obama who has put Bush spending on steroids?

I have said repeatedly that I dont. Your the one defending President Bush. I dont support either.
 
I always ignore quotes as I prefer actual facts. Don't care what Cheney said only what the U.S. govt spent and took in in revenue.

You also ignore the fact that Conservatives dont like spending. From either party.
 
You also ignore the fact that Conservatives dont like spending. From either party.

That is your opinion, conservative have no problem with spending on the necessary functions of the U.S. Govt. You don't seem to know exactly what you think.
 
That is your opinion, conservative have no problem with spending on the necessary functions of the U.S. Govt. You don't seem to know exactly what you think.

I have told you dozens of times why I see no difference between the two policies. It just beyond your ability to comprehend. You think I have to pick a side. I dont.
 
That is your opinion, conservative have no problem with spending on the necessary functions of the U.S. Govt. You don't seem to know exactly what you think.

So you tell me then what conservatives opinion on spending is.
 
I have told you dozens of times why I see no difference between the two policies. It just beyond your ability to comprehend. You think I have to pick a side. I dont.

Of course you don't because you don't understand the difference between private sector and public sector stimulation and where the meaningful jobs are created. Reagan and Bush promoted the private sector with their spending and Obama promoted the public sector. When you promote the public sector the taxpayer pays for it, when you promote the private sector the consumer pays for it. Obama supporters don't get it.
 
Of course you don't because you don't understand the difference between private sector and public sector stimulation and where the meaningful jobs are created. Reagan and Bush promoted the private sector with their spending and Obama promoted the public sector. When you promote the public sector the taxpayer pays for it, when you promote the private sector the consumer pays for it. Obama supporters don't get it.

I am a small business owner (wife does most of the work) and someone who works in a firm full of lawyers, economists and managment support personel. As I have been employed in this field for over 15 years I can tell you that I understand the difference between private sector and public sector more than most. I suspect more than you. I can also tell you that very little of what President Bush did was for the small business owner. If your Exxon, Enron or Monsanto they you profited greatly. Middle class america, inlcuding small business owners, did not prosper like you think they did.
 
I am a small business owner (wife does most of the work) and someone who works in a firm full of lawyers, economists and managment support personel. As I have been employed in this field for over 15 years I can tell you that I understand the difference between private sector and public sector more than most. I suspect more than you. I can also tell you that very little of what President Bush did was for the small business owner. If your Exxon, Enron or Monsanto they you profited greatly. Middle class america, inlcuding small business owners, did not prosper like you think they did.

Compared to what Obama has done, there is a difference between night and day. If you are a small business owner I am sure you welcome the new taxes that are coming your way as well as the higher cost of personal income taxes thanks to the Obama agenda. I have 35 years experience in the business world, both big and small businesses so don't tell me you have a better understanding of the private sector and capitalism than I do. Fact is that anyone who supports the Obama agenda doesn't have a clue as to the damage he is doing. Between Bush and Obama it is no contest. Bush didn't care what you made, Bush didn't care how much money you kept, and Bush doesn't care how you spend your money. that is the freedom which made this country great. Obama is jealous of that income that you earn and believes he and the govt. can spend it better.
 
Compared to what Obama has done, there is a difference between night and day. If you are a small business owner I am sure you welcome the new taxes that are coming your way as well as the higher cost of personal income taxes thanks to the Obama agenda. I have 35 years experience in the business world, both big and small businesses so don't tell me you have a better understanding of the private sector and capitalism than I do. Fact is that anyone who supports the Obama agenda doesn't have a clue as to the damage he is doing. Between Bush and Obama it is no contest. Bush didn't care what you made, Bush didn't care how much money you kept, and Bush doesn't care how you spend your money. that is the freedom which made this country great. Obama is jealous of that income that you earn and believes he and the govt. can spend it better.

Tax policies aren't motivated out of jealousy. Fact as, when most of society's wealth is concentrated into a small minority of persons and institutions, that's where the tax hammer is going to fall.
 
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Compared to what Obama has done, there is a difference between night and day. If you are a small business owner I am sure you welcome the new taxes that are coming your way as well as the higher cost of personal income taxes thanks to the Obama agenda. I have 35 years experience in the business world, both big and small businesses so don't tell me you have a better understanding of the private sector and capitalism than I do. Fact is that anyone who supports the Obama agenda doesn't have a clue as to the damage he is doing. Between Bush and Obama it is no contest. Bush didn't care what you made, Bush didn't care how much money you kept, and Bush doesn't care how you spend your money. that is the freedom which made this country great. Obama is jealous of that income that you earn and believes he and the govt. can spend it better.

Why do you keep defending what President Bush did by saying President Obama is worse. Cant you see BOTH hurt the economy.

Im suprised that you, and your 35 years of experience, dont remember how most small businesses were thrown in the crapper at the end of President Bush's presidency. Do you know how may business closed their door before President Obama even got swarn in. Ones that have been open for over 10 years. GONE. That was the Legacy he left behind. A shattered economy.
 
Tax policies aren't motivated out of jealousy. Fact as, when most of society's wealth is concentrated into a small minority of persons and institutions, that's where the tax hammer is going to fall.

Spoken like someone who supports taking of income from anyone that you disagree with. You don't seem to understand that taxes come from individuals and businesses that earned it. It is their money being transferred to the govt. so that the govt. can decide where it goes. You don't see a problem with that?
 
Why do you keep defending what President Bush did by saying President Obama is worse. Cant you see BOTH hurt the economy.

Im suprised that you, and your 35 years of experience, dont remember how most small businesses were thrown in the crapper at the end of President Bush's presidency. Do you know how may business closed their door before President Obama even got swarn in. Ones that have been open for over 10 years. GONE. That was the Legacy he left behind. A shattered economy.

I don't call 52 months of economic growth and job creation hurting the economy. What did Bush do that caused small businesses to close their doors?
 
Why do you keep defending what President Bush did by saying President Obama is worse. Cant you see BOTH hurt the economy.

Im suprised that you, and your 35 years of experience, dont remember how most small businesses were thrown in the crapper at the end of President Bush's presidency. Do you know how may business closed their door before President Obama even got swarn in. Ones that have been open for over 10 years. GONE. That was the Legacy he left behind. A shattered economy.

Do you recall who was running Congress at the end of Bush's presidency?

What, exactly, has Obama done to help American businesses?
 
Do you recall who was running Congress at the end of Bush's presidency?

What, exactly, has Obama done to help American businesses?

Again, I am not defending President Obama, Conservative is saying what a wonderful job President Bush did with the economy.

There was a republican congress for the first six years.
 
Again, I am not defending President Obama, Conservative is saying what a wonderful job President Bush did with the economy.

There was a republican congress for the first six years.

It was a Republican Congress 4 of the 8 years. It was a Republican House 6 of 8 years. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, never did I say that Bush did a wonderful job but I did point out actual results which you obviously ignored. I asked you what Bush did to hurt you and your family and I am still waiting for an answer.
 
I would say that the worst economic down turn since the Great Depression is "Hurting" the economy.

If you were around when Reagan took off that economy was worse than the one Obama inherited and as a member of Congress helped create. High interest rates and high inflation created a misery index of the mid 20's. When Obama took office interest rates were about zero and inflation was almost non existent. the financial crisis had been averted.
 
Spoken like someone who supports taking of income from anyone that you disagree with. You don't seem to understand that taxes come from individuals and businesses that earned it. It is their money being transferred to the govt. so that the govt. can decide where it goes. You don't see a problem with that?

We have a mixed economy. That means the government supports the private sector in small and large ways, and, on behalf of the public interest, is entitled to a share in the profits.

I'll use a simple example. Consider how much support relay services like trains and the airline industry have received from the government. Then consider how much private sector businesses, small and large, rely on those services to move products, people, and information. Imagine how much difficult this process would be if trains and airlines folded altogether. Other businesses could buy shares in the industries for the sole purpose of keeping them open to continue moving goods, but their quarterly profits are comparatively small to the government's revenue. And lacking the ability to secure large and pay loans, they wouldn't be able to finance the burden of bail-outs as effectively.

Furthermore, no single business, no matter how large, would be able to support the airlines by themselves. So they would have to form coalitions with institutions they normally compete with. These alliances might be tempted to use their ownership to exclude businesses from moving their goods via train or airplane. That would be a short term gain for the alliance, but it would impede economic growth overall and lead recession.

So, the government supports the relay services and manipulates the law so that they function as a 'neutral ground' which, while inconsistently profitable in-themselves, drives success in other areas of the market.

A mixed market economy is the only way to produce and maintain a technological revolution where inventions like the 'Internet' are possible. One of the consequences of a mixed market economy is that is requires a big, active, high spending government.
 
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the financial crisis had been averted.

Tell that to 50 million Americans who have no healthcare and the 10% without jobs. Not to mention those in part time jobs or people with masters degrees in call centers.
 
We have a mixed economy. That means the government supports the private sector in small and large ways, and, on behalf of the public interest, is entitled to a share in the profits.

I'll use a simple example. Consider how much support relay services like trains and the airline industry have received from the government. Then consider how much private sector businesses, small and large, rely on those services to move products, people, and information. Imagine how much difficult this process would be if trains and airlines folded altogether. Other businesses could buy shares in the industries for the sole purpose of keeping them open to continue moving goods, but their quarterly profits are comparatively small to the government's revenue. And lacking the ability to secure large and pay loans, they wouldn't be able to finance the burden of bail-outs as effectively.

Furthermore, no single business, no matter how large, would be able to support the airlines by themselves. So they would have to form coalitions with institutions they normally compete with. These alliances might be tempted to use their ownership to exclude businesses from moving their goods via train or airplane. That would be a short term gain for the alliance, but it would impede economic growth overall and lead recession.

So, the government supports the relay services and manipulates the law so that they function as a 'neutral ground' which, while inconsistently profitable in-themselves, drives success in other areas of the market.

A mixed market economy is the only way to produce and maintain a technological revolution where inventions like the 'Internet' are possible. One of the consequences of a mixed market economy is that is requires a big, active, high spending government.

There is a difference between supporting private business and getting in the way of private business with excessive taxation. It is the government's role to support the private sector, not put it out of business. Allowing businesses to keep more of what they earn is what the American economy is all about and something Obama doesn't understand nor do all liberals. It is jealousy that drives liberalism and Obama. The disdain liberals have for business is quite telling.
 
Tell that to 50 million Americans who have no healthcare and the 10% without jobs. Not to mention those in part time jobs or people with masters degrees in call centers.

It isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to take taxpayer money and fund healthcare for individuals. That is your responsibility at worse or at best the state and local government along with charities. Why is it your responsibility to provide my insurance and vice versa? If hospitals pay for ER service that cost is passed on to the local community, not the Federal Taxpayer. Let the states solve their own healthcare problems.
 
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